Yeah thanks Tim, I really enjoyed this league even though I only won 2 games lol. Great group of very knowledgeable guys. Good luck everyone in the playoffs!
Updated draft order - #1 - Fort Kickass #2 - Tiger Style #3 - Truth's Trash Talkers #4 - Turf Toes #5 - Irish's Rabid Dawgs #6 - Fishers #7 - Spicyweiner #8 - Bombers Congrats to Beach and Jason for advancing to the conference championship games.
Congrats, Beachbum... good luck the rest of the way. ___________________________________________________________ The Bombers will be back next season! Pretty cool how the top 4 seeds made it to the semis... good deal there.
Regarding improvements/suggestions... I think it would be cool if defenses played a more significant role, more points possibility's, etc. _______________________ I also have been considering the possibility of shortening the benches by a couple players to possibly leave more action and available players in Free Agency. With the size of the bench/rosters, it's difficult to make claims on the waiver wire do to the depletion of talent left available. ______________________ These are just suggestions that are open for discussion. Chime in with your opinions please.
If we constricted the roster I don't think it would be fair to do it for as soon as the next season. I wouldn't necessarily be against it but I like the roster size because it lets you hold a few more defenders than you probably would with a smaller roster and gives you more time for rookies. As for team defenses, the individual players themselves make up for the lack of points but I would personally like to see the team defenses just be scrapped ll together with an alternative possibly being that any blocks and return scores be credited to the individual players.
I like this, Joe. I guess scrapping the D/ST all together is one option, but if we are going to retain that spot on the roster, I would like to see more scoring from the D/ST as a whole. Kinda seems as it stands right now as a very insignificant roster spot.
If we scrapped the DST position I would assume we would in turn scrap that roster spot without any competitive issue. The spot is too much shit luck in a game that has crazy luck built in already.
The D/SPTs is really just SPTs. It's sole purpose is to give your team a chance to flip a win or loss off of a special teams play. Which, in reality, a kickoff return for a touchdown or a blocked extra point can do exactly that. It gets no D scoring because we have IDP players, which are your team's defense. If we were to eliminate that spot, then we would need to continue to refuse special teams points for the IDP and eliminate SPTs points altogether. Rather than make a drastic change, I'll suggest a subtle one. Perhaps we should look at adding 1 point for every 25 return yards. It would potentially generate consistent points every week and add slightly more value to the position.
Constricting rosters would be a possibility, but if we were to do that I would prefer to make it so that you had to carry X number of offensive players and X number of defensive players. I'm not sure that's feasible on FF. I believe it only works for limiting individual positions.
Continuing with smaller rosters - We could look to shrink them down in the off-season by possibly 2 spots. It would put more free agents on the market for the draft and make for some slightly more difficult decisions at the end of the season. That would make for 28 total. We have 14 starters, so that would have us retain one back-up to each starter (this includes K and SPTs). For the regular season - We would need to look at how badly a team would be handicapped by taking the roster down. I think we could probably get away with 2 spots, but teams that are hit with injuries on multiple fronts (both defense and offense) will find themselves forced to cut ties with valuable players or choose to retain them and not remain competitive. Finding balance between the two might not be easy. I think we could eliminate that 31st roster spot as soon as next season without issue considering we shrink rosters to 30 at the end of the season. I can discuss this with the other commissioners at the end of the season and see if we can come to agreement on eliminating that one spot for this year. If we decide to shrink it anymore it would not take affect till the end of the 2017 season and would become part of the season end roster cuts.
My personal opinion is to leave the roster size how it is now. I especially would not like seeing constrictions on individual positions. We all have constructed our rosters with the layout of the original league set up. If we had constrictions from the beginning, many owners may have constructed their franchises in a different manner. It is a dynasty league, bottom feeding teams should not be rewarded with freebies off of the waiver wire in my opinion. A team should have to be resurrected via the draft and trades, leaving it as close to the NFL structure as possible (free agency not in play because we do not have salaries attached to our team). I would have this opinion no matter the current state of my team, which I will have a rebuilding phase in order in the near future. When that time comes, it will be on me the owner/management to make the right decisions to keep the franchise afloat, not getting lucky because I have a higher waiver priority than the next team. In the event we did decide to constrict the roster size, I would have the opinion of it only being 1 or 2 spots per season so a franchise could slowly adapt to the changes. The only thing I would not mind seeing is a bump up on IDP scoring. Currently high end IDP players score less on average than every offensive position. It would be hard to do however as we do not use fractional points, so a half point for assists is not feasible. Just my 2 cents.
I like what Tim and JS have brought to the table. Clearly I havnt thought of those things and I'm glad to see the input. I understand better why the 'system' is the way it is and really don't feel so concerned for changes as I originally thought. Good stuff. That's what I was looking for when asking for suggestions. Thanks.
I had thought about using total tackles instead of solos, but the varying degree in how they are scored kept me from adding that in. Same with passes defensed. It changes the scoring dynamic for DBs too much and how they track them is wildly inconsistent. We could possibly up the the sack scoring to 3 points. We could also look at adding 1 point for TFLs and 1 point for 4th down stops. It would be applied to IDPs.
It's the right time of year to look at things in the league that people may have concerns over. Before we started this league I had put together this format and kept looking at different ways to make it as balanced as possible. Ideally, the only advantage any franchise will have is how it's owner manages the team. Certain things can never be accounted for (injuries) but keeping things competitive is the goal. Any suggestion that will make it better without tilting the balance one way or the other is a good one IMO. That's the reason anytime someone makes a suggestion my response will most likely include some kind of compromise. If we make a change in one area, it most likely has a consequence in another. Right now I believe we could eliminate one roster spot for the regular season because it would not change how we approach the off-season. You would still have to bring your roster down to 30, but you would only need to cut 2 players instead of 3. I believe we could also make the changes I mentioned to the defensive scoring without issue. The one thing I would need to look at is how FF scores TFLs. If a player gets points for both a sack and a tackle for loss on the same play then I would be against raising the sack total to 3. Instead, I would just leave it at 2 considering they would get the other point for the TFL.
I would not like a constriction either. That 31st spot was the old IR spot anyways and in dynasty it is rare someone won't have need of it so the 31 this year is essentially the same as the 30+1IR last year. I agree on every point listed. Heck I would have loved a few more FAs available as I have to be a week ahead of everyone that is a week ahead to get something as the last priority guy every week. The saving grace was that I already established the roster. Also constricting the roster too much will affect the balance of wiggle room for injuries. Heck look at my team. Should I would have been expected to drop some key guys to account for injuries. I'm probably starting 2-3 FAs against Jason this week and if I had a tight roster I would be crippling my roster for the future in order to make a run here. Tim made the points for keeping the Special Teams. That is fine. I could do without but if wants to keep that lucky play or add return yards to the equation I wouldn't be against it. However if we constricted the only right way to do it was with elimination of the DST.... which does nothing to increase the FA pool anyways (which I don't think needs constricting). In the NFL teams late in the season don't have the benefit late of finding great people available all the time that didn't have a special circumstance, why should some of our lower in the standings teams here get that lucky boost late to snag one? We build and carry our rosters and make those difficult decisions. Jason said he might have to look at rebuilding at the near future. I'm walking that precarious line as well if you look at my skill positions between age, injury and possible busts. It'll affect me as well soon if I don't manage it correctly and get a bit of luck.
IMO changing the IDP scoring in a way that drastically affects a position would be unfair. I didn't look into who would benefit but it would remove some of the fluidity of who is good in the position and some teams could have a number of main stays on their rosters that normally wouldn't be amazing in the current system. It could be a swing of many points to affect weekly matchups and possibly tilt the league too much from what it currently is. We are a tackle heavy league and I have learned to deal with it.
The forced fumble gets 2 points, the recovery gets zero. Basically, the way I viewed it was that forcing fumbles involves a degree of skill where recovering fumbles involves falling in the right direction.
Any scoring changes have to be a slight move one way or the other so it doesn't drastically change the potential value for a position. Anything that I have suggested would have to be researched over the course of a season to see how big of an impact it would create on top tier players and overall scores. Right now we have a really solid set-up so it would have to be extremely convincing evidence that it would enhance the league before I would enact any changes.
