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mlmeng16 · Jul 30, 2014

Willthethrill said:

11-4...thats a whoopen! Tigers rebound tonight.
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Tigers break out of slump behind Scherzer
Six-run first highlighted by Castellanos' three-run HR; righty now 13-3

DETROIT -- The Tigers scored six runs over their four-game losing streak entering Wednesday night's contest against the White Sox. They then drove in six runs over a four-pitch span of the opening inning off of Hector Noesi. That was all they needed, and neither they nor Max Scherzer wasted much time after that.

Somehow after a six-run, six-hit first inning, Noesi not only survived to last six innings, but needed just 87 pitches to do it. With six runs on 10 hits, he had nearly as efficient an outing as Scherzer, who faced one batter over the minimum through six innings before giving up a run in the seventh. Scherzer, however, still ended up with the 7-2 win, pushing the Tigers back over .500 at Comerica Park for the season and maintaining their division lead.

It was Scherzer's fourth win in as many starts against the White Sox this year, accounting for nearly a third of his victories this season. Seven innings of one-run ball didn't even mark his best mastery of the Sox compared to last month's complete-game three-hitter in Chicago. Add up the damage, or lack of it, and Scherzer (13-3) has held the Sox to three runs on 19 hits in 28 innings, striking out 31.

Noesi had nowhere near that foundation of success against Detroit, allowing eight runs on 12 hits over 9 1/3 innings this season. Seven batters into his outing Wednesday, he was pretty well doomed to more of the same.

Eight consecutive Tigers reached base safely after Austin Jackson took a called third strike to lead off the opening inning. It was the efficiency that impressed as much as the damage. Once Victor Martinez lined a 2-0 pitch into right field for an RBI single, the Tigers began a string of four run-scoring hits on consecutive pitches.

Torii Hunter and J.D. Martinez followed with RBI singles, but Nick Castellanos punctuated the string by jumping a first-pitch fastball for a three-run home run, his seventh homer of the year.

Thirteen of the 27 plate appearances against Noesi had a first pitch put in play. He needed just three pitches to retire the middle of the Tigers lineup in the fourth inning, despite a leadoff single from Miguel Cabrera, who was erased on a double play on the very next pitch. Add in a double play to end the third inning, and Noesi actually recorded five outs on four pitches.

For the Tigers, there was no sense waiting. Scherzer, in turn, responded with shutdown innings, retiring the middle of the White Sox lineup in order in the second by striking out Adam Dunn and Conor Gillaspie. Two singles from leadoff man Adam Eaton accounted for the only baserunners through five innings, and Scherzer erased him on double plays both times.

Not until back-to-back singles led off the seventh did the White Sox put a runner in scoring position against Scherzer, placing runners at the corners with nobody out. Dayan Viciedo's fly ball carried deep enough to center to score Alexei Ramirez and break up any shutout bid.

Dunn hit a solo homer, his second in two nights, in the ninth off of Al Alburquerque.
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You called it Will...now you are on the "hook" to call more Tigers wins.

mlmeng16 · Jul 30, 2014

Willthethrill said:

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"Jul 30, 1994 - Detroit defeats Oakland? 14-2? as Tiger C Chad Kreuter ties a major league record with 3 sacrifice flies. He is the 9th player in history to perform the feat. " {http://www.baseballlibrary.com/chronology/byyear.php?year=1994}

It should be easy to remember because so much of the 90s was easy to forget.

"The Tigers Ty Cobb? Bobby Veach? and Ossie Vitt follow each other in the lineup? each going 5-for-5 in a 16-4 win over Washington. Having three players collect five hits ties the ML record for the century. Cobb also scores 5 runs for the first time Detroit's outfield has 12 hits to tie the AL record." {http://www.baseballlibrary.com/chronology/byyear.php?year=1917}

As far as 1917 goes, I wasn't around until the 50th anniversary of that feat.

Willie · Jul 31, 2014

You called it Will...now you are on the "hook" to call more Tigers wins.
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lol. It really was an easy call with Scherzer on the mound. Pretty cool how they beat the Tigers 11-4, so the Tigers return the favor even with a greater margin. Todays game should be fun. Tigers havnt faired well against the Central this season, time to turn that around too.

Willie · Jul 31, 2014

Todays game is an afternoon affair starting at 1:08. Lineups posted when available.

Thursday 7/31 1:08pm
Drew Smyly (L)
vs. White Sox - John Danks (L)
1. Austin Jackson (R) CF
2. Ian Kinsler (R) 2B
3. Miguel Cabrera (R) 1B
4. Victor Martinez (S) DH
5. Torii Hunter (R) RF
6. J.D. Martinez (R) LF
7. Nick Castellanos (R) 3B
8. Alex Avila (L) C
9. Eugenio Suarez (R) SS

1. Adam Eaton (L) CF
2. Alexei Ramirez (R) SS
3. Jose Abreu (R) 1B
4. Dayan Viciedo (R) LF
5. Paul Konerko (R) DH
6. Gordon Beckham (R) 2B
7. Tyler Flowers (R) C
8. Moises Sierra (R) RF
9. Leury Garcia (S) 3B

Willie · Jul 31, 2014

Well, alright. Hunter and JD with back-to-back HR's, Tigers take the lead 4-3 headed into the 4th. Danks fastball is getting figured out.

Willie · Jul 31, 2014

4-4 in the 4th.

Thanks guy's! The Tigers threads have surpassed 2000 post's. Thats cool.

FortheLulz · Jul 31, 2014

thank u for all the work u put into it, will

Willie · Jul 31, 2014

My pleasure, Lulz and thanks.

I'm waiting to see if the Tigers can land David Price. Deadline ends in 10 minutes...and I cant hold my breath that long.

Willie · Jul 31, 2014

HOLY COW!!!

MLB @MLB 1m
.@MLBNetwork's @Ken_Rosenthal reports @Tigers will acquire LHP David Price from #Rays. Clubs have not confirmed. #TradeDeadline
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Rosenthal is trust worthy I'm told. Details to follow...WOW.

Willie · Jul 31, 2014

Austin Jackson and Drew Smyly traded to the Rays for Price...still more details to come.

Willie · Jul 31, 2014

Jackson to Seatle and Seatle sends someone to Tampa Bay. A 3 team deal.

Bottom line; Price is a Tiger and Smyly and Jackson are gone. I liked Jackson, gonna miss him.

Willie · Jul 31, 2014

White Sox take the series, 7-4 final.

Not like the Tigers to be around .500 at home. Glad they are road warriors this season.

mlmeng16 · Jul 31, 2014

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article/det...md=20140731&content_id=87236374&vkey=news_det

Tigers land biggest Deadline prize in Price
Jackson goes to Mariners; Smyly, prospect also involved in three-way deal

DETROIT -- The Tigers spent the final days and hours leading up to Thursday's 4 p.m. ET non-waiver Trade Deadline as everyone expected, on the hunt for a left-handed pitcher. Instead of a reliever, though, they ended up with the best lefty in the American League in their biggest Trade Deadline deal in recent memory.

Hours after the A's bulked up their already-stacked rotation by acquiring Jon Lester from Boston, the Tigers answered with a stunner, acquiring David Price from the Rays in a three-team trade that included the Seattle Mariners. But getting Price came at a price -- center fielder Austin Jackson to Seattle, and left-hander Drew Smyly to Tampa Bay. Class A shortstop Willy Adames, who jumped up the Tigers' top prospect rankings with a solid season at low Class A West Michigan, is also headed to the Rays in the trade.

The Tigers announced the deal after Thursday's 7-4 loss to the White Sox, from which Jackson was pulled from center field in the middle of an at-bat with one out in the seventh inning in a bizarre scene.

According to Tigers president and general manager Dave Dombrowski, the lines of communication with Tampa Bay had been open for about a week and a half. The talks intensified Wednesday night when Tampa Bay general manager Andrew Friedman phoned Dombrowski as he was leaving Comerica Park and asked if the interest was still there on the Tigers' end.

"These things are never easy to do in a one-on-one trade, let alone three clubs being involved," Dombrowski said. "It all just sort of meshed together."

At approximately 12:55 p.m. ET Thursday, Dombrowski's phone rang again -- it was Friedman -- and "that's when everything started to move real quickly."

It's a deal that gives the Tigers a potential postseason rotation that includes the last three American League Cy Young Award winners -- reigning champion Max Scherzer, Price and Justin Verlander. They already owned the last three AL MVP awards between Verlander and two-time reigning MVP Miguel Cabrera.

It also gives a potential Detroit-Oakland postseason series the feel of a best-of-seven pitching duel. A month after Verlander suggested the A's traded for Jeff Samardzija because of Detroit's rotation, the Tigers seemed to answer the A's lead.

Dombrowski insisted that the Lester deal didn't "make the difference in this deal because we were already moving forward." But, he added, "When I saw they got Lester, I wasn't jumping up and down and thrilled that they got him by any means."

The Tigers had been searching for one more reliever, but with asking prices high, they kept their options open on the starting pitching market. While the Rays had two different scouts watching the Tigers' farm system since early last week, a source suggested they didn't have the prospects to match up with other teams needing starting pitching, such as the Pirates -- whom the Rays scouted heavily -- and the Cardinals.

The Tigers pulled an end-around by taking away from their big league roster with two key pieces.

Even with one of the best rotations in the league coming in, the Tigers' appeal on Price was the same as it would've been for any club, including a 3.18 ERA for his career, a 3.11 ERA for the season, and a league-leading 189 strikeouts over 170 2/3 innings. His 24.9 wins above replacement since 2010 ranks fifth among all Major League pitchers.

More than a two-month rental, however, Price helps extend the Tigers' best window of contention to his next season, his final year before free agency. He also gives the Tigers protection if Scherzer signs elsewhere as a free agent this coming winter.

Jackson has been a cornerstone of the Tigers' run of three consecutive AL Central titles since arriving after the 2009 season in the Tigers' last three-team megadeal that sent Curtis Granderson to the Yankees. Jackson became a defensive standout in center field while holding the leadoff spot for most of the past 4 1/2 seasons, including a rejuvenation returning to the top spot this summer.

"It's difficult," Dombrowski said of giving up a tenured Tiger like Jackson. "But I think you have to weigh it. We don't make that deal unless Austin's involved."

The 27-year-old Jackson entered Thursday batting .270 with a .330 on-base percentage, .727 OPS, 25 doubles, five triples, four home runs, 32 RBIs and 52 runs scored. He is reunited with Lloyd McClendon, his hitting coach for his first four years in Detroit, now the Mariners' manager.

Jackson is eligible for free agency at the end of next season, much like several other Tigers, including Rick Porcello and Alex Avila.

While Price gives the Tigers a front-level rotation for next season, Smyly was expected to be a key piece for well beyond that. The 25-year-old southpaw started Thursday's matinee loss to the White Sox with a 6-9 record and 3.77 ERA over 17 starts and three relief appearances. He was expected to play a key role in Detroit's postseason bullpen, reprising his role from last year's run to the ALCS.

Adames jumped to third on MLB.com's midseason rankings of Tigers top prospects earlier this month. The 18-year-old shortstop was a prized signing from the Dominican Republic two years ago, then broke out this year at West Michigan, batting .269 (95-for-353) with 14 doubles, 12 triples, six home runs and 50 RBIs. He was the youngest everyday player in the Midwest League.

But, prized as Adames was, he was never going to interfere with Dombrowski acquiring Price.

"The way we looked at it, and the question that we asked ourselves is, 'What gives us the best chance of winning a world championship this year?'" Dombrowski said. "We have to get there. We know that.

"We felt that adding [Price] to our rotation gives us the best chance of getting that."
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If the Tigers don't make the WS this season, it won't be due to lack of starting pitching.

mlmeng16 · Jul 31, 2014

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article/det...md=20140731&content_id=87336446&vkey=news_det

Tigers hope championship comes with a Price
GM Dombrowski decides to go big in effort to bring Detroit a title

DETROIT -- Tigers general manager Dave Dombrowski never thought about making the team better.

He wanted to make the Tigers the best.

He wasn't looking to patch holes.

He was looking to make an impact.

And he did.

In the final hours before baseball's non-waiver Trade Deadline on Thursday, Dombrowski landed lefty David Price from the Tampa Bay Rays, an idea that was first broached two weeks ago and four days later pushed off to the side as a nice idea that wasn't going to work.

And all of a sudden the Tigers have a clubhouse filled with individual hardware -- the last three American League Cy Young Award winners (Max Scherzer, Price and Justin Verlander) and the last three AL MVPs (Miguel Cabrera the past two years and Verlander in 2011) -- in the quest for the game's biggest hardware, the World Series trophy.

There was a price -- lefty Drew Smyly went back to the Rays along with top prospect Willy Adames, an infielder, and center fielder Austin Jackson was dealt to Seattle, which in turn sent infielder Nick Franklin to the Rays to complete the three-team, five player deal.

The payoff, however, has the potential to be huge.

"What this give us is the best chance to win a world championship this year,' said Dombrowski. "We know we have to get there. We know that. But we felt adding him gives us the best chance to do that."

Oh, does it.

Think about it.

The postseason starts.

The Tigers are the opponent.

Verlander is the fourth guy in the rotation. That's right, the guy who in the five previous years has won more games (91) and struck out more batters (1,194) than anybody in the big leagues, and has a 3.05 ERA, which ranks behind only Felix Hernandez and Jered Weaver in the AL, is sitting behind the likes of Scherzer, Price and Rick Porcello.

And the Tigers know not to be deceived by the fact that Verlander, this year, is only 9-9 with a 4.79 ERA because there's an awareness that in any start he can regain his domination. There's still an aura about a guy who is only 31 and has been so dominate.

There, however, is also no getting around that the other three have been the elite this year.

Scherzer is 13-3 with a 3.27 ERA.

Porcello is 12-5 with a 3.24 ERA.

And now Price. He is 11-8 with a 3.11 ERA, and in his last 12 starts, he is only 7-4, but he has a 2.02 ERA over that stretch, having averaged 7 2/3 innings. He has not given up more than three earned runs in any of the 12, and has allowed one or no earned runs in seven of the games.

"He's one of the best pitchers in baseball," said Verlander. "He's left-handed. He's a power pitcher, which always plays well in the playoffs. We have to get there first. You don't want to look beyond. We're not there yet, but we've got a good quality team."

And don't forgot Anibal Sanchez, who is 7-5 with a 3.57 ERA, but does have a no-hitter on his resume, and, despite a 2-4 record, has compiled a career 2.95 ERA in six postseason starts. He's the fifth in the Tigers' five-man alignment.

"There's a lot of great rotations out there right now, especially with what Oakland did," said Verlander, "but I love this rotation. I love our guys. It's going to be tough to beat."

The A's had a tough time beating the Tigers in the Division Series the past two years, which is why they spent the last month rearming their rotation, acquiring Jeff Samardzija from the Cubs at the start of the month, and then adding lefty Jon Lester from the Red Sox on Thursday.

The A's, however, don't have anyone that has won a Cy Young.

The Tigers do -- three of them.

There have been teams in the past with three pitchers who have been Cy Young winners, most recently the 2009 Giants with Tim Lincecum, Barry Zito and Randy Johnson.

The Tigers, however, are the first team with three different pitchers who won the Cy Young in the three previous seasons with the addition of Price.

"I don't even care what the rest of the league does, honestly," said Scherzer. "I believe in this clubhouse so much. I know what type of talent we have in here. I didn't think we needed to make a move to be able to compete with anybody else. I believe in everybody in here.

"The fact that we go out and make a move, that's the front office trying to say, 'Hey, we're going to get better and we're going to try to win it all.' Let's close out the American League Central and wrap this up. Let's play good baseball for the rest of the second half and let's see what happens in the postseason."

Time will tell.

There's no sure things in life, much less baseball.

An original member of the American League, the Tigers have won only four World Series in their history, and the most recent was 30 years ago. They also were world champions in 1968, 1945 and 1938. They have been to the postseason the last three years, but advanced to the World Series just once, in 2012, when they were swept by the Giants.

Now, however, they are feeling giddy about the potential this season thanks to a trade that 17 hours before it was announced wasn't even a serious consideration, much less a point of discussion.

Dombrowski chatted with Tampa Bay general manager Andrew Friedman about the availability of Price back on July 21, but the talks never got serious enough to merit discussing a definitive package. In the meantime, there was a lot of speculation about the possibility Price could go to multiple teams, including the Dodgers and the Pirates.

Then, driving home from Comerica Park after the Tigers' 7-2 victory against the White Sox on Wednesday night, Dombrowksi got a call from Friedman, wondering if the Tigers still had interest in Price. Dombrowski said yes.

"[Special advisor] Scott Reid reminded me [Thursday morning] that a couple of weeks ago when we sat down with the staff, he said if we can get David Price and [reliever] Joaquim Soria we can go for it," Dombrowski said.

The Tigers acquired Soria to add bullpen depth on July 23. Eight days later, Price came aboard.

Now, the Tigers are counting on the expectations to become reality.

"To me, the message is we want to win," said Dombrowski. "If we win, I'll be very satisfied."

The Tigers have certainly made a championship pitch.
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This is so true. Unfortunately, the Tigers bull pen is the "great equalizer" - against the Tigers.

If / when the Tigers make the post season, they will need for the bats to be awake at the start of each game and for the starting pitchers to pitch deep into the game. If they do that, the Tigers can certainly make another WS appearance.

Willie · Aug 1, 2014

Friday 8/1 7:08pm
Justin Verlander (R)
vs. Rockies - Franklin Morales (L)
1. Rajai Davis (R) CF
2. Ian Kinsler (R) 2B
3. Miguel Cabrera (R) 1B
4. Victor Martinez (S) DH
5. Torii Hunter (R) RF
6. J.D. Martinez (R) LF
7. Nick Castellanos (R) 3B
8. Bryan Holaday (R) C
9. Eugenio Suarez (R) SS

1. Charlie Blackmon (L) LF
2. Corey Dickerson (L) DH
3. Nolan Arenado (R) 3B
4. Justin Morneau (L) 1B
5. Carlos Gonzalez (L) RF
6. Drew Stubbs (R) CF
7. Wilin Rosario (R) C
8. Josh Rutledge (R) SS
9. DJ LeMahieu (R) 2B

Willie · Aug 1, 2014

Verlander and the Tigers up 3-0. Hope JV can hang on. He's looking much better.

Willie · Aug 1, 2014

JV still bringing it.

Willie · Aug 1, 2014

JV looks good and goes 8. He needed that.

5 consecutive outings for Nathan without giving up a run. He gets the save.

4-2, Tigers.

Just passing this along in case you didnt see the game.

mlmeng16 · Aug 1, 2014

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp...tebook_id=87463450&vkey=notebook_det&c_id=det

Carrera gets opportunity due to Jackson trade

DETROIT -- Which is the real Ezequiel Carrera?

Is it the Minor League free-agent find who nearly made the Tigers' roster out of Spring Training, made multiple highlight catches and tore up International League pitching all season for a .307 average, .809 OPS and 43 stolen bases?

Is it the former Indians prospect who struggled through parts of two seasons in Cleveland -- he owns a .251 average (92-for-366), .306 on-base percentage and .644 OPS for his three-year Major League career -- and once reportedly lost a ball in the sun while his sunglasses were perched on his cap?

The Tigers, with a void in center field after trading Austin Jackson to Seattle, are about to find out about the 27-year-old Carrera, though Rajai Davis earned the first start in center in the post-Jackson era Friday night against Rockies left-hander Franklin Morales.

Manager Brad Ausmus hesitated to say he'd use Davis, who was a center fielder coming up through the minors, and Carrera in a strict lefty-righty platoon. How Davis -- a .250 hitter off righties this year compared to .373 off lefties -- performs could have a large impact on Carrera's playing time, Ausmus said.

Even if Davis earns the bulk of the time, the Tigers will be looking for something out of Carrera, a left-handed hitter who batted .315 with a .401 on-base percentage against Triple-A right-handers this season. Anything like what he did in Spring Training would work well.

"He was originally talked about in Spring Training, possibly making the team," Ausmus said. "And then there was the situation where we were debating at the time we called up J.D. Martinez, whether to call Carrera up instead, the reason being we needed a left-handed bat. But we decided we needed a little bit of thump."

Carrera, for his part, was not as happy with his camp, saying he didn't have a good spring and tried to refocus in Toledo.

Either way, he fared well. Once Martinez heated up to go with Davis, Jackson and Torii Hunter, "there just wasn't a spot for him," Ausmus said.

Davis and Carrera have similar styles, making things happen with their speed. The key to holding down center field is for their instincts to serve them as well.

"Jackson's a very good center fielder," Ausmus said. "I think you'll be surprised how good Carrera is in center field when he's there. We lost a little bit defensively probably, overall, and a little bit offensively, especially the way Jackson's swinging the bat. But you don't get something for nothing, and you certainly don't get David Price for nothing."

For now, the plan for Davis and Carrera is to bat them up top, with Ian Kinsler batting second and Hunter staying in the middle of the lineup.
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I was wondering if Carrera was coming up after the Tigers traded Jackson and Dirks is in a rehab stint.

mlmeng16 · Aug 1, 2014

According to http://tigers.mlb.com/team/roster_active.jsp?c_id=det

The Detroit Tigers Active Roster consists of

# Pitchers B/T Ht Wt DOB
62 Al Alburquerque R-R 6'0" 195 Jun 10, 1986
44 Joba Chamberlain R-R 6'2" 250 Sep 23, 1985
40 Phil Coke L-L 6'1" 210 Jul 19, 1982
65 Blaine Hardy L-L 6'2" 230 Mar 14, 1987
63 Pat McCoy L-L 6'3" 220 Aug 3, 1988
36 Joe Nathan R-R 6'4" 230 Nov 22, 1974
21 Rick Porcello R-R 6'5" 200 Dec 27, 1988
19 Anibal Sanchez R-R 6'0" 205 Feb 27, 1984
37 Max Scherzer R-R 6'3" 220 Jul 27, 1984
38 Joakim Soria R-R 6'3" 200 May 18, 1984
35 Justin Verlander R-R 6'5" 225 Feb 20, 1983

# Catchers B/T Ht Wt DOB
13 Alex Avila L-R 5'11" 210 Jan 29, 1987
50 Bryan Holaday R-R 6'0" 205 Nov 19, 1987

# Infielders B/T Ht Wt DOB
24 Miguel Cabrera R-R 6'4" 240 Apr 18, 1983
9 Nick Castellanos R-R 6'4" 210 Mar 4, 1992
32 Don Kelly L-R 6'4" 190 Feb 15, 1980
3 Ian Kinsler R-R 6'0" 200 Jun 22, 1982
27 Andrew Romine S-R 6'1" 200 Dec 24, 1985
30 Eugenio Suarez R-R 5'11" 180 Jul 18, 1991

# Outfielders B/T Ht Wt DOB
61 Ezequiel Carrera L-L 5'10" 185 Jun 11, 1987
20 Rajai Davis R-R 5'9" 195 Oct 19, 1980
48 Torii Hunter R-R 6'2" 225 Jul 18, 1975
28 J.D. Martinez R-R 6'3" 220 Aug 21, 1987

# Designated Hitter B/T Ht Wt DOB
41 Victor Martinez S-R 6'2" 210 Dec 23, 1978

That is 24 players.

It is a roster that could make it to the WS. For that to happen, the bull pen will need to get better.

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