CUT KEVIN WHITE

Discussion in 'Chicago Bears' started by vvarder, Sep 10, 2017.

  1. BearsWillWin Drunk (Probably) Patreon Champion Manager Bears Blackhawks Cubs

    The majority of TDs that year were thrown by the great Shane Matthews.
     
  2. blang84 Legend Bears

    Shane was good when Gary Crowton was the offensive coordinator.

    I got Cade down for 16 TD passes in 2 seasons. He threw 8 in his rookie season, compared to 7 for Trubisky.
     
  3. BearsWillWin Drunk (Probably) Patreon Champion Manager Bears Blackhawks Cubs

    Crowton was a good OC.

    Ugh, don't make that comparison. McCown was also a douche.
     
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  4. EvertonBears M.V.P. Bears

    And let us not forget, trading Marshall led directly to not being able to draft Leonard Williams. And also apparently forced him down the path of White over Beasley.

    Pace made two huge fuckups right off the bat. Not shitcanning Cuntler immediately, and then the complete Tom-Fuckery surrounding the top of his first draft. And the team has been paying for it ever since.

    Personally i think i have him as the worst draft pick in Bears history. Not that there hasn't been a hell of a lot of competition!

    But McCown was a shitbird from day 1. Full camp holdout, played like crap when the season started. A goddam fumble machine. And they traded UP for that useless sack of shit!

    So bad.
     
  5. BearsWillWin Drunk (Probably) Patreon Champion Manager Bears Blackhawks Cubs

    Hard to argue with.

    It goes down on my board as one of the top 3 worst decisions the franchise ever made. Trading for Rick Mirer is #1. I can never, ever forgive that. I think the Dave McGinnis embarrassment rounds out the top 3 for me.
     
  6. EvertonBears M.V.P. Bears

    Im sure every teams fans can make this claim, but i truly believe that Mirer may have been the worst football decision of any team in league history. It was that bad. I'll go to my grave never knowing why they did it.

    But it did teach me forever that guys running teams, even NFL teams, don't have to have this amazing knowledge. In fact there are plenty of times when they don't even have the knowledge of your average fan.

    And am i right in saying all 3 of those monster fucks happened on Michael McCaskey's watch? Actually worse at his job than George, as incredible as that is to say.
     
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  7. BearsWillWin Drunk (Probably) Patreon Champion Manager Bears Blackhawks Cubs

    Yeah Mike McCunt will forever be the worst executive ever in the history of the NFL. George might be an idiot but he's at least smart enough to know he can't run an NFL team as far as personnel goes and he's hired people, perhaps not successfully so far, to make football decisions.

    Mikey boy badly wanted to be an NFL GM so he ran off Bill Tobin in the late 80s and tried to run things himself. Then made an enemy in Mike Ditka...a Chicago God and the only coach in Bears history to win a friggin SuperBowl.

    I hate the entire McCaskey family with every ounce of my being. Real hate. Want to see them dead hate.
     
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  8. Bear-man 11 Franchise Player Bears

    Not that Pace didn’t fuck up royally... but if you recall, the Bears were still playing a 4-3 defense at the time. Beasley is a 3-4 OLB. That’s why he wasn’t selected.
     
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  9. EvertonBears M.V.P. Bears

    I'll never forget him swaggering up and down the sideline in the Superdome during the second half. Smug look on his face like he'd made it happen. Halas built that team, little mikey had nothing to do with it.
     
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  10. BearsWillWin Drunk (Probably) Patreon Champion Manager Bears Blackhawks Cubs

    I was having a good day until this little fuck got mentioned. Now I wanna break something.

    So many bad things about Bears football relate to him.
     
  11. EvertonBears M.V.P. Bears

    I was gonna post the same thing about McCown haha.
     
  12. EvertonBears M.V.P. Bears

    No, they were playing a straight 4-3 in 2014, Fangio had joined the team in the Jan of 2015. Now, Fangio would often present a 4 man front in 2015, as he still does to this day. But they were always going to transition to a 3-4D under him and they would've known that by April's draft.

    The defensive formation wasn't why Beasley wasn't picked. It was cos Pace is a fuckhead.
     
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  13. dlinebass5 M.V.P. Bears

    Are we talking about Cade McNown? 'Cause we hate him so much that we forgot his damn name. I just don't want the name of good QB's to be associated with his...

    Fuck, this team has had an awful history. I can't believe we even have good seasons to look back on, in the last 20-30 years.

    Focusing on the positives, boys: if Trubisky works out, we'll be in good shape. If not, Pace is gone. Silver lining!
     
  14. vvarder Franchise Player Bears

    This made me laugh in the saddest way possible. So I dropped "rick mirer trade worst trade in NFL history" into google and I found this gem:
    http://www.nfl.com/photoessays/0ap3000000519212

    They have it at #9, and even as a Bears fan I have to put Ricky Williams up there, and for sure they have #1 right. That Walker trade is a travesty amongst all SPORTS, not just Football.
     
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  15. EvertonBears M.V.P. Bears

    That was a pretty amusing read.

    But there were several trades in there that shouldn't be imo. Tebow was desperately bad yes, but all those other ones trading up for a QB in the 1st round, meh, its what happens. Its the most important position in sports and you've guys coming out with college achievements and a ton of potential. Leaf was expensive, Gabbert sucked, but a lot trades look bad with hindsight. RGIII, people were full on deepthroating that trade after he went DROY his rookie year. Shanahan pretty much destroyed RGIII's career playing him while injured, that trade shouldn't even be on the list.

    Mirer at #9 is way too low, ranking it beneath RGIII is just laughable.

    What separates Mirer from the others is where his stock was when the trade happened. Those college players had high stock. Williams, you should just never trade your entire draft class for 1 player, but the guy was believed to be the next coming of Jim Brown, and the Saints did get TWO 1st rounders back later on when they traded him somewhere else. Walker was again way overpriced but he was dominant the year before in Dallas. His stock was, at least, sky high.

    Mirer was a turd. A proven turd. He had 4 horrible years in Seattle and his last was by far the worst of the lot. His stock was at rock bottom. Don't recall the talk at the time, but he may have been outright cut and even if he wasn't just flip the Seahawks a 6th/7th rounder and its done. To this day its inconceivable to give up a 1st round pick for one of the worst players in the league at his position, doesn't matter who he is.

    In terms of the decision making by the GM(if not the cost), i have the Mirer trade at least on a par with Williams and Walker.
     

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