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After watching the end of that game some of you guys might be right.
That game looked fixed.
I really hope it's not because it was fun watching it. I was voting for the Seahawks and a bit bummed but that was one of the most improbable
End of a game there is.

 

ridiculousness: LaGarrette "Tommy Chong" Blount's 30 carries, 148 yards and 3 TDs in the AFC title game. yeah, he sucks. glad he's gone. that would've been one helluva stat line in Round 1. even half of that would've been helpful.

 

Get ready for the "genius" (at cheating of course), Bill Belicheat, to win another Super Bowl as I predicted.

Green Bay would have won too if they hadn't literally given the game away (players/coaches fix anyone)? It was "interesting" when Green Bay gave Seattle their first touchdown by rushing 3 and inexplicably still leaving someone completely wide open for this stooge QB to complete a 3rd and 19 (Seattle's average at best QB is a product of his O-line, running game, and defense and can't play when any of that becomes average itself). Prior to that they had been rushing 4 or more all game and the stooge QB was looking like he would on most any other team. He gave a lot of props to his god and himself of course after the game - saying he called the TD he threw to "win" it....um, so after 4 interceptions (did he call any of those too)? Maybe his god allowed all of that to happen so that he could look heroic at the end? He did at least say he was "blessed" to be on "this team" which by the way is the only thing I agreed with that came out of his mouth.

However, as far as I could tell it was a surprisingly well officiated game - Green Bay and Seattle (which really stands out these days when that happens). Maybe the NFL didn't care which team would win because they would promptly be losing to NE anyways. Gimpy Rodgers created the excuse for Green Bay to lose to NE and now......Seattle magically has a gimpy Sherman, which is the perfect excuse for them to get routed by New England and we can all finally put spygate behind us (magically because winning this super bowl will "prove" to the average fan that they would have won all those super bowls without the cheating....of course.....or at least that's what the NFL is hoping imo). Or maybe the NFL doesn't really care too much who wins this one because either winning makes a great story. Or maybe it's time to reward Kraft again for helping to build the NFL in Europe and help create better broadcasting arrangements for the NFL. Of course even if the NFL doesn't seek to influence the game via officials or coaches or players, there is always the possibility that Vegas could (all it takes is them getting to one ref and/or a player and use whatever threat or leverage they have against them). It is nice when a game is just a game though and that's what I'm hoping for in the super bowl. However, it will be fun to note if any potential "funny business" becomes noticeable".

Maybe, just maybe though the NFL will sense enough people are onto this script and switch the script so that Seattle can repeat (a feat that is rare in back to back years) and they can disseminate the talking points to ESPN and CBS etc. about potential new "dynasty" which will stir the pot until draft time. Of course, having an interracial QB win back to back super bowls makes a great talking point as well.

It will be interesting to see how this unfolds. This is all conjecture btw for entertainment purposes (which is how the NFL classifies itself as entertainment instead of sports) so please nobody get your panties in a bunch (I am keeping all NFL conspiracy talk on this thread as instructed by our beloved board management and I ask that others do the same). I do honestly thank them for allowing this thread to exist where brainstorming and true speculation about what goes on can take place. The NFL is not above reproach or speculation given their history (anyone who thinks so please read the first post and some of the books that guy references).

 

"Sie schlafen . Sie m?ssen nicht glauben wollen." - anonymous ghost voice

 

Some interesting questions being asked:

Kind of a weird call IMO. I want to say they usually tack on 15 additional yards for this sorta thing:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...-of-sweezy-personal-foul-was-a-judgment-call/


Deflate-Gate anyone? Man weird how these kinds of things seem to always pop up in NE:
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/19/league-confirms-ball-deflation-investigation/

 

This guy seems a little over the top sometimes (for even me - which some of you will think isn't possible) but here's his take on prior weeks leading up to this one (will kinda be fun to see his take on yesterday at some point).

Per www.thefixisin.net

BTW, I don't mind if some of you want to just call me the kooky uncle Artie of this thread who shows up at family reunions with his nontraditional ideas. . Maybe it will help some of you understand in saying that I am not trying to stir up strife, I truly just wonder about stuff.

Some interesting statements on prior weeks from prior weeks per www.thefixisin.net.
"PLAYOFFS - DIVISIONAL


Before we get to the steak, let's quickly address the appetizer. The Ravens lost to the Patriots because the Patriots cheated again. Or so says Ravens coach John Harbaugh. Harbaugh was quoted as saying, "They're an illegal type of a thing and I'm sure that [the NFL will] make some adjustments and things like that." He added, "That was clearly deception." To me, it sounded like someone (i.e. Belichick) wasn't following the agreed upon script.
Then came Sunday's "Ice Bowl II" (which was called that simply for marketing purposes). The one play shown above has be already beaten into mashed potatoes in the media, but I'll still add my take for what it's worth.
One: Dez Bryant caught that ball. That is undeniable. It was in his hand(s) and not being bobbled. He had control. The problem lies in the NFL's rule on what actually is a "catch" (note: what is a catch to most people is not what the NFL defines one as being).
Two: The obfuscation of NFL rules is intentional. The official who initially determined this was a catch was standing not six feet away from the play. I'm certain he knows and understands the rules. He called it a catch, but because the league has created an enormous gray area when it comes to its rules, it could be overturned...if the league so desired.
Three: Why does anyone know the name Dean Blandino? Hasn't it always been the notion that good officiating remains anonymous? An unseen entity on the field? This is no longer the case, especially when it comes to the new micro-managed NFL. Every replay, including pivotal ones like this, has the on-the-field official in direct communication with the NFL home office in New York City. Sitting at that control panel is Dean Blandino (the same guy who now has a face in the media explaining why his officials always make the right call - be it on the field or in reviews - without much question coming from our watchdog media). Why can't fans watching at home hear the conversation between these two entities? What's so secret? They should be merely discussing the rule book. Why isn't it part of the broadcast? Then it would all be above the board and beyond reproach.
Four: If we could hear the field-to-NYC discussion, we wouldn't need a guy like Mike Pereira telling us the wrong thing. That's right. The former VP of Officiating (the pre-Dean Blandino), Pereira was actually involved in creating this "in the process" rule. A rule he failed to explain correctly to a clearly pissed off Howie Long on the FOX postgame show. Could it be that Pereira took the officials side of things this week in order to calm a brewing storm after helping stir the pot after the Cowboys benefited from poor officiating in the Wildcard round?
Five: Let's face it. If the Cowboys won the game in part because this was ruled a completed pass, the NFL "conspiracy theorists" (that is, people like me) would be popping out of their holes like groundhogs on February 2nd screaming "Fix!" So was this non-catch call purposefully made to quiet this growing disenfranchised crowd? Was it made because of "home field advantage?" Was it a little of both? Because if one reads the actual NFL rules on this, it's hard not to call the play anything but a catch.
Six: I have to say I kinda like Boomer Esiason, and not just because he had me on his radio show to promote my book (he also admitted during that interview fixing could occur today). Don't just listen to what he says in this clip. Look at his body language. As a former player, I'm certain he loves the game. And as having served the league both on the field and now off it, he understands how it really operates. This play, this ruling, has him beaten. He knows it was a catch, and he says so. Sure, he backs the NFL's letter of the law as he talks (they still employ him via CBS), but he doesn't believe in it. His hands are tied in the matter, and frankly, I think it bothers him.


The bottom line is when the NFL has to immediately go into damage control, you know something's not right. When Alex Jones calls my house less than 20 minutes after the final gun sounds to ask me to return to his program, something's not right. When Andrew Luck and the Colts beat Peyton "I'm suddenly playing with a torn quad which by rule should've been listed in the injury report but never was" Manning, something's...well, sooner or later the new guard has to take over if the NFL is going to continue to thrive on its QBs. Plus, the NFL couldn't have all four home teams win, could they?
More to come..."

 

Or it's their attempt to be as transparent as possible because twitter has given a voice to everyone and people often 1) Make comments that aren't correct like the one below and 2) repeat comments that aren't correct because they read it on twitter

Peyton was injured on Week 15. He appeared on every injury report after Week 15 (16, 17, Divisional).

Like the statement above most of the so-called conspiracies can be fact-checked in a matter of minutes but those who love a good conspiracy don't choose to do so.

 

I remember most Steelers fans here being pretty ho-hum over his signing, initially - many were even disappointed. Beachbum here even went into detail on why he thought he was a bad runningback. So, you guys got what you wished for.

Case in point: Beachbum and Jay Glazer.

And yes, I am just being a dick.

 

lol, there is so much wrong with this paragraph.

first, since when are refs/umpires anonymous? that's utter nonsense. their names are known and discussed regularly in every north american sport i watch.

next, since when are the viewers privy to the conversations between officials? when they're done talking, they tell everyone what their decision was. in the meantime, i don't see any sport putting those convos on the PA.

explaining why his officials made the right call? right - except when he says they made the wrong one.

"without much question coming from our watchdog media" - LMAO, what planet is this guy from?

 

"You being a dick" doesn't bother me. I understand you have no control over that. In fact, it's quite funny that someone who is so wrong on a particular subject would continually bring it up. Every time Glazer breaks a story on twitter it is followed by some of the most respected people in journalism tweeting things like, "Well if Glazer says it, it's true."

That's all I said, almost verbatim and yet you still think I was wrong to say it. And you still bring it up almost a year later. Even after the tweet that I made the comment about was indeed true, just like everything else he breaks. It's amazing that someone could be as dense as you and so eager to share it.

 

how about this? let's say, in Utopiaville, that you were allowed to listen in on officials making a War Room decision. who's to say they wouldn't just static it out or play a pre-recording? you STILL do not know what info you would be getting, especially if the game is for "entertainment" purposes only. why would you trust that? eventually, that wouldn't be good enough. then some fans would want to be invited to NFL HQ just make sure we are "really landing on the moon". when a goal is discussed in the NHL, you don't hear that. when baseball umpires confer over a play, you don't hear that either. maybe this "fixisin" guy has a gambling problem and instead of just quitting, he's looking to build up material for a lawsuit or something.

this "fix" guy is starting to look like a nutjob. i think that the NFL refs are complete morons and just can't get it right... consistently. the piles of errors and VERY obvious mistakes might make it seem fishy, but to tell you the truth, i'm leaning on the "pure idiocy" theory when it comes to refs. i've already referred to them as the "Keystone Refs". i will concede that there may be more behind the scenes events that tip towards the possibility of something screwy, but that is, at this point, speculation.

 

Like I said, that guy says some pretty off the wall stuff imo. Part of the fun of this thread should be like a snopes or whatever that site is for validating some of the wilder things being said out there.

Beach - was Peyton on the injury report for a quad tear or something way less than that? Maybe that's what what was meant......

 

Thigh - the severity of injuries aren't required on the injury report. Just need to list the practice participation and the likelihood that the person will play (Probable, Questionable, Doubtful, Out).

 

Maybe the NFL has the refs call games poorly on purpose so when they fix games it isn't as obvious.

 

That's consistent with what I just found....

December 25th Rotoworld
Peyton Manning (thigh) is practicing in full this week.
Manning missed a day of practice last week and was limited in others. So it's safe to say he's far healthier this week as the Broncos prepare for a home game against the Raiders. They need to win the game to lock up the AFC's No. 2 seed and a first-round bye. The Broncos' run-first mentality over the last month caps Manning's upside, but he's still a top-shelf QB1 in this matchup. Peyton also added Wednesday that he plans to be back in 2015, brushing off silly retirement notions.

Above everything seems honkey dorey.


January 12th Rotoworld:
Sources tell ESPN's Adam Schefter that Peyton Manning has been playing through a torn right quad -- specifically the rectus femoris -- for the last month.
Manning sustained the injury in Week 15 and the bruising reportedly spread to the back of his leg. In the four games since, Peyton threw a paltry four touchdowns and was intercepted four times. In 13 previous games, he threw 36 touchdowns against 11 interceptions. An inability to drive off his plant leg may have contributed to the drastic downturn in effectiveness and arm strength. However, Manning was practicing in full and it's worth noting that a "strain" is by definition a tear. Manning could not have played through a complete tear. The future Hall of Famer still heads into the offseason with plenty of question marks.


The guy from that site IMO is speculating that his injury wasn't that bad but they used it as an excuse after the fact OR speculating that they gave a less than fully honest injury report (which happens all the time with many teams).

 

You said that, because Glazer said the Browns weren't drafting Manziel, they weren't going to. I called that asinine. You pointed to other journalists saying that he's usually right as proof - I told you that meant nothing, and you haven't understood that yet. Glazer went on to say (and you went on to quote, pompously), that "The Browns will draft me (Glazer) before they draft Manziel". You acted like that was the end of that story. ... And then the Browns drafted Manziel.

Let me ask - was Glazer not available at that point in the draft? And, more importantly, was Glazer wrong? No, it couldn't be. Other journalists said that he was the man. You can name call all you want - facts are facts.

I only pointed it out because you're saying that Twitter and similar outlets give people the freedom to say whatever they like, and that incorrect information can easily be spread by others using those same outlets. You spread Jay Glazer's false comments, and moreover, used other Twitter comments to "prove" his legitimacy. So, really, I was supporting you by pointing that out. You're welcome.

 

You can't even read. Glazer said the Browns weren't drafting Manziel with the 4th pick and when someone retweeted it he made sure he jumped in and made it clear he meant "with the 4th pick". Later, he tweeted about them drafting him as you noted above but you missed the important part of his tweet in which he said, "Let me make this clear for those arguing against it. CLE would take ME at 4 over Manziel and I totally botched the wonderlic.

This came right after Chris Mortensen reported they were drafting him with the 4th pick. You know what Mort did? He immediately deleted his tweet because he knew he was wrong. Why did he do that? Cause he knew if Glazer broke the story, it was true.

You were wrong then, you are wrong now and for the life of me I can't understand why you would want to continue to bring this up.

Awful Announcing captured the whole thing pretty well:

http://awfulannouncing.com/2014/jay-glazer-causes-espn-to-delete-johnny-manziel-browns-report.html

 

So what is the latest in Deflate-Gate? Has the NFL declared it a non-issue yet? Will they burn future recordings and evidence that come to light, declare it not a big deal and fine Belicheat another 100,000 dollars and fine the Patriots even less? .....an amazing slap on the wrist to discourage future cheating (sarcasm) , and that was the biggest penalty ever at the time! The NFL sure is serious about the integrity of the game.....

Another possibility: this whole ball inflation thing is a scam to defer attention from how utterly awful the officiating and rules have become in the NFL.......yeah, the NFL ignores that major issue as it gets worse but ensures us balls will be their normal weight!!!

And some still believe truth isn't stranger than fiction.....

This is fun!