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Discussion in 'Cleveland Browns' started by TopDawg, May 11, 2022.

  1. SAS M.V.P. Rams Chargers

    I don't think the word 'justify' is the right choice... the League just needs to minimize its potential exposure, damage, and bad press. It's an easy solve for this season: you put QB26 on indefinite suspension until his final cases are completed. If they somehow wrap before the season's end, I still think you'd see Goodell and the League office drag out the reinstatement until after the season. One thing they'll want to avoid is QB26's face in the post-season.
     
  2. SAS M.V.P. Rams Chargers


    Just to be clear: he's getting therapy for the mental anguish he's sustained while being publically outed as a repeat sexual offender.
     
  3. SAS M.V.P. Rams Chargers

    Donte' Stallworth!
     
  4. IrishDawg42 Legend Manager Browns Buckeyes Fighting Irish

    That would be if he was put on the commissioners exempt list, which Goodell already stated was off the table. The talking heads have suggested a paid indefinite suspension, not the league. These are two different things, exempt list (paid, but already ruled out by the commissioner) and suspension(unpaid).

    Yes, he got away with one by the contract layout... They could remedy the cunning nature of the Browns contract offering by supplementing the suspension (which would include not receiving his 2022 $1,035,000 salary for 17 games. If he only gets 10 game suspension, he would only lose $608,824) with a fine. That is where the $14.5M came from... Typically all fines go to the league office, historically these fines are $1M or less. In this case, since he would be relatively untouched by the suspension, I included this $14.5M fine, of which $4.5M would go to the league (which alone would be historical for an individual), then $10M to the charity. I've never understood why the league imposes all of the fines and recoups money for suspensions, but they don't redirect the money PER OCCURRENCE to charity's at that time. I know the NFL uses this money for charities throughout the year, but it would be nice to see it directed towards the specific charity the suspension/fine is being collected for.

    AS I've already stated, it obviously wouldn't be something that happens in the coming months. It would be after all legal issues were cleared, he had worked with the group to have a better understanding as an individual, let alone the groups agenda. I don't think it would be several years, I would put the time frame more like 2024-2025. Every event vets their speakers, he would have to clear that vetting process. It's certainly doable and imho, could make an impact.
     
  5. SAS M.V.P. Rams Chargers


    Y'all have yourselves a regular soap opera around here... you know that?
     
  6. gidion72 Legend Steelers

    Isn’t that the way that the Ravens got their beginning?
     
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  7. TopDawg Legend

    Oh there's plenty more, and not just guys that killed people. As usual, gid doesn't know what he's talking about. there's a big difference between being accused and being convicted...Puting Watson in the same sentence with Rae Carruth and Aaron Hernandez is ridiculous.

    Still wrong gid. We know what you're trying to do. It's the same thing you're always tryin to do...

    Unfortunately I can come up with plenty more names that didn't kill anybody.

    I think Rams CB Daryl Henley is still in prison for his cocaine trafficing conviction in the mid 90's, when he then tried to have the judge that convicted him killed....Pretty sure he received a sentence over 40 years.

    Michael Vick was convicted of funding, promoting and facillitating a dogfighting ring. If the dogs didn't perform the way he saw fit, they were killed by electricution, hangings, drownings and other violent means. Hundreds if not thousands of dogs.

    Thomas Henderson was convicted of holding two minors at gunpoint and sexually assaulting one of them.

    Pacman Jones shot a guy in a strip club parking lot and put him in a wheelchair for the rest of his life...

    Nobody even knows how many women were drugged and raped by Darren Sharper throughout his career...

    Lawrence Phillips - Do I have to say more? I believe he did eventually kill people after his career was ancient history.

    The list goes on and on sadly...
     
  8. SAS M.V.P. Rams Chargers

    This whole stadium thing ends in spectaular Jimmy fashion: after the city rebuffs paying over $700 million in tax payer funds and bonds, Haslam moves the team across the lake to Toronto. The Haslam's enter into an agreement to add a Tim Horton's to every Pilot / Flying J location and in turn, Horton's gets the stadium and team naming rights.

    And the Toronto Timmies are born.
     
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  9. beachbum M.V.P. Manager Steelers

    The first thing that has to happen is he has to take some responsibility for his actions. And I'm not sure if he hasn't already missed that window. Only time will tell but I'm pretty skeptical.
     
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  13. kenibals Home Town Favorite Browns

    I think that's pretty simple to figure out: the noise over the allegations was becoming deafening, which had to have been pretty tough to deal with, there would be no football talk about Deshaun until this quieted down, and each new allegation fed the fire under the NFL to greater and greater punishment for him.

    You can feel the air being let out of the balloon since the settlements, even though it does nothing to discredit the accusations, it does quiet 20 of them. The four remaining are still a legitimate and serious threat to him, possibly legally, but certainly from a reputation perspective.

    My guess is he'll get the rest settled for God knows how much money, but there is practically nothing to be gained from letting them play out in court. That would mean the story stays alive and keeps being the first thing mentioned about Watson until such time as they have gone to court, and been adjudicated. That my friends could go well into next season.

    How could it not be better for The NFl, Watson, and the Browns to simply make this story go away?

    What has been accused is predatory and dispicable. I will never believe Watson is innocent with so many women coming forward, no male masseuses ever used, and many who weren't even qualified massueses.
    It reeks. If Watson doesn't at least do counseling, and apologize for his part in inspiring so many to come forward, I think many will never give him any slack. Maybe time will dull the ire, heal the wounded, and provide some perspective if Watson can man up enough to admit his approach with these women was wrong, and hurtful.

    Settle them Deshaun, and let us all go back to our knitting.
     
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  14. kenibals Home Town Favorite Browns

    It's a business decision, so pay them whatever it takes, and truly do it out of a desire to provide reparations, for the hurt you caused them, whether you admit it was intentional or not, at the very least.

    For those women who have not settled, it is a burden they'll carry for years, and at some point they'll see that letting it end is also in their interest, so they don't have to relive it publicly anymore and can go about trying to put the pieces of their own lives back together.

    If any one of them digs in her heels and insists they go before the judge and get the case decided, they risk it all and keep the story alive. If the accuser wins, Watson is SOL, and may see time off again in 2023.
    If Watson wins, he still loses by being a story of sexual misconduct at the very least, and sacrifices another 6 months of being the focus of sexual abuse across the nation, with all the circus that goes with it.

    He can't win, and I think the "counseling" he's been getting is to understand that truth, and to make the right decision to settle these cases and get the story out of the news, not to recognize any role his own behavior may have played in creating this mess.
     
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  16. Lyman "Franchise Asshole" Browns Buckeyes

    It is now being reported that Buzbee will add the Houston Texans as additional defendants in the civil suits against Watson.
     
  17. Jeanquev Legend Steelers

    That was a given once the hotel room and non disclosure agreements came out. That being said it is possiblemthe texans new nothing of the co plaints at the time they were happening.
     
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  18. IrishDawg42 Legend Manager Browns Buckeyes Fighting Irish

    That was reported a couple of weeks back.

    Today they officially filed the first case against the Texans on Solis behalf. Buzbee said, this is the first one, indicating there will be more.
     
  19. IrishDawg42 Legend Manager Browns Buckeyes Fighting Irish

    Someone knew enough to provide Watson with the non-disclosure to use when one of the women threatened him. If he is an employee of the team, the team is accountable.
     
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