Maybe you should have shared your rock solid crystal ball with Clowney before he signed. The Browns, with Brissett, will still be better than the 1996, 1997 and 1998 seasons - combined.
All I'm saying is we've seen motivated Clowney and unmotivated Clowney and they are two different players. He played well with Houston, played like he only cared about a paycheck with Seattle and Tennessee, then came to the Browns and seemed motivated again. The Browns were contenders going into last season. They are contenders going into the season with Watson, not Brissett, so what level of player do you truly think you will see from Clowney if Watson doesn't play (which seems more likely by the day)? Sorry for being Debbie Downer, but everything that has been done the past few years to get this team to where it is, was undone at the stroke of a pen signing Watson. If you mean we will get to watch orange helmets without logos play 17 games of mediocre football, then yes.. I agree. Those three seasons were absolute torture. I didn't think it could get worse when it came to being a Browns fan. Even 1-31 wasn't worse than that. But watching the team make a decision like this to bring in a potential predator to run the team... Lyman, this is absolutely the worst I have felt since 1995 when the announcement was made that Art was stealing the team. No other moment comes close to what I have been feeling the past 3 months. Will I root for the Brissett led Browns? YEs I will and I will cheer loudly and curse loudly when it all goes wrong. I will be MUCH more engaged than I would be otherwise with Watson playing on Sundays. I would rather have had our (3) first round draft picks and drafted Desmond Ridder in the 2nd round of 2022, and them run Baker Mayfield out of town that way.. Than deal with this circus that Watson has brought to our fair state. I am embarrassed of the situation our ownership has put us in. EVERY WHERE I go out of state... Q1- Are you a Browns fan? Answer- Yes.. What do you think about them signing Watson? Then 30 follow up questions, do you think he's guilty, do you think it's right that the owner signed a guy with so many issues... First of all, I don't know the guy has all these issues... All I know is the Browns took his baggage and now we will all have to deal with it for at least the next two years... maybe more if it gets bad enough that he never plays a down for the Browns and we lose the draft capital with him. Obviously I am talking worst case scenario, but every day I am reminded of the stupid decision with news talking about it constantly.
Could be his play is tied more to who is on the field with him defensively. In Houston he had Watt. In Seattle and Tennessee not nearly as talentwd players on the opposite side of him as he had in Houston and now in Cleveland.
Exactly. With Watson, he knows offensive possessions will last 2 to 3 minutes longer. Which means he will get 2 to 3 minutes more rest on the sideline per possession. So, why only a one year deal? Perhaps because he suspected that Watson wouldn't be available for some or all of the 2022 season ???
Not sure how this is a "gotcha" against @IrishDawg42. If QB26 gets the suspension he deserves, the Browns are without a capable QB for the next one to two seasons, no draft capital to replace that with, and effectively waste the prime years of its core talent with a mediocre backup like Brissett when even a rookie QB with this roster would at least have the capability to improve. If QB26 somehow skirts a lengthy suspension, there will be unbelievable blowback on the NFL and team. And if he's able to suit up Week 1, it's not like he was some world-changing talent before. He quit on a team after going 4-12 and managed to take a perennial 9-7 squad no further in the post season than they'd previously been. He's not in the class of QBs at the top of the NFL. Against a *brutal* schedule, that's going to get you a post-season appearance.
True, but also a weaker schedule for the entire north last year compared to this year. Ehh, that was a mistake on my end. I counted out 11 games accidentally instead of 11 weeks (to include the bye week). I don't share the same optimism in Brissett, which is expected as you're a Browns fan and I'm a Ravens fan. I had some homer faith in Huntley last year until he proved me wrong. A healthy Baker Mayfield is better than a healthy Jacoby Brissett, I don't think anyone is going to argue that. An injured Baker Mayfield is not that different from a healthy Jacoby Brissett. Last season, Baker while injured got you 6 wins in the 14 games he played, with the team you say is built solid on both sides. I don't see how a similar level QB (injured Baker and healthy Brissett) plays a harder schedule and does better. Keep in mind 2 of Baker's wins were to backup squads (Ravens 2nd game and Bengals in week 18). I'm not sure how Brissett can be seen as that much of an improvement. Of course I didn't see Cincy making the superbowl this time last year so I can easily be wrong.
What does this even mean? He wanted to play with Watson, but he signed a one year deal because he thought Watson wouldn't be here during that one year???
No . . . he signed only a 1 year deal because he (like the rest of us) didn't know what Watson's suspension will be. IF Watson puts the legal problems behind him by the end of the 2022 league year, he can always sign a multi-year deal at that time.
Proved you wrong? Wow, that's surprising to hear.... Honestly, I saw nothing but amazing potential with that dude. One of the better (most dangerous) back-up options in the league IMO. (outside of Brissett of course), and he's a perfect fit behind Lamar. The team "I say" is built well on both sides. Really? lol! Nice try. I get it though. You are worried about the Browns as you should be....
I understand now, you meant in regards to possibly signing a multi-year deal in the future.. I guess that is one of my biggest contentions. OBVIOUSLY, if they can prove that 27( to infinity) women are lying and he didn't do anything wrong in any of the encounters with the 66 women that have been identified to this point, I would no longer have any issues with Watson playing for the Browns. My next step would be, if it IS proven he was liable for any past issues with even one of the sixty-six and counting, how does he react to outcome? Does he humbly own up to that, vow to help not only himself, but the community in some way to better understand the issues women face AND what is paid to any victims to help them get over their experience. If there is a satisfactory outcome, even if found guilty, I could see myself come around on accepting him as a Brown in the future. That is a LOT of water under the bridge though, that we will not have a ending within the next 18 months or more, in my estimation. I guess the question is, when these cases finally go to trial in spring of 2023, will they be tried together, consecutively, completely separate with trial dates set as entered into court, etc.. If cases continue to mount, are those court dates also continuing to move the end of these court cases out further? I mean, depending on how they are presented and tried, we could be looking at years(as in plural) before we have any closure to these issues. Until there is closure, my stance will remain intact. So, if he gets suspended or added to the commissioners exempt list in 2022 and pending outcome of the cases, this tells us to not expect to have Clowney in 2023 or into the future based on his comment as well as your understanding. I'm fine with a one year loner of talent to help the team win, all day every day.. but to waste even more assets on this type of talent without a set plan for the team can be detrimental to it's growth. Going into 2022 with Baker Mayfield, you know what the plan is. Find out if his injury impeded his ceiling in 2021. NOW, you replace someone that actually might have improved on his 2020 growth when healthy for a player that you have no idea when he will even be available to the team to use. This is consistent with Haslem taking business chances in his past. He doesn't care how it effects the team's current progress, it will either propel him if Watson is cleared, or they will go backwards at an equal rate if he is not. I can't see the justification in taking that chance.
lol! Cute. That was the dark ages of the NFL. This Browns team, with Brissett, will be better than anything we saw during the first couple decades after 96,97 and 98.
One thing that no one is even thinking about is, is this when did this behavior start with Watson? Was it in college? Was it in High School? He could wind up with an avalanche of lawsuits against him if he was doing this stuff before the his NFL career. It is very possible he could have a couple hundred lawsuits against him.
Possible hundreds of women joining the lawsuit. TD you are member 66 on this site by the way. Strange coincidence. I just don’t see him having started this behavior since joining the NFL. I get the feeling that over a hundred women could join the case for the cash grab coming from college and possibly high school days of Watson.
Huntley was a true one read QB. Roman acknowledged he had to simplify the playbook for Tyler. Not only did Huntley struggle to get through reads, his deep ball was terrible. For all the drops Ravens fans have gotten on him about, I think Hollywood was on pace for around 1,300 yards with Lamar and then fell off the map and struggled to get 1,000 with Huntley. In fact, in 12 games with Lamar he had only 2 under 50 yards. Including the Browns game where Lamar went down in the first quarter, Hollywood had 5 games without Lamar with all 5 getting under 50 yards. No excuse for Hollywood to have a game with 19 catches for 43 yards. That's a combination of Huntley's inability to throw deep and Roman changing the plays/play calling to adjust for his inability to throw deep Lol whether here or on another site, a Browns fan trys to tell me I'm worried about/feat the Browns every offseason. I'm more worried about the Ravens health than I am any team in the league
