2025 NFL Draft Thread

NFL Draft: Shedeur Sanders’s Fall to Day 3 Was Predictable and Avoidable

This is one of the best breakdowns I’ve seen for what is happening with Shedeur.

 

That is an article that I think says a lot. The Sanders group (family and all), basically shot themselves in the feet, both of them. You cant really blame the GM's or the media, but just look hard with an open mind as to how the Sanders' handled and advertised this whole thing.

Gabriel getting picked before Sanders really made me laugh.

This has got to be one of the most dramatic 'drops' of a highly touted and ranked prospect Ive ever seen, just based on mouth's... not 'medical', DUI's or ill-treatment of women or drugs, but words from big mouths.

 

Rounds 4-7, kickoff at Noon Eastern today.

 

Oh shit, I didn't know Shadeur had his retired, now I get it...

 

You have to start wondering, who gets drafted first Shedeur Sanders or Isaiah Bond (whom I took completely off my board)?

 

Neither.

 

My daughter’s prom was last night so I have a lot of catching up to do.

I have a few appointments today so I’ll be back this evening.

 

You took your daughter to the prom?

 

Explains it perfectly. The whole Sanders brand is a turn off to a lot of GM and coaches. Some of it is cringeworthy and above all arrogance.
ESPN is playing the race card.....

 

I haven't heard that yet, but it doesn't surprise me. In a draft where the #1 overall pick is a black QB, when someone they can't explain drops, that must be the reason.

In a way, I can see the reasoning. His circus is very similar to Johnny Manziel. Branding a phrase before they enter the league, the money signs everywhere. BUT, Manziel accomplished a lot more on the college gridiron than Sanders did. From the Browns point of view and experiencing Manziel, I sure as hell wouldn't want to go through that again. When you are branding yourself in every public appearance, it throws up red flags, then on top of that his skill set doesn't translate very well. It was the perfect storm.

Look at the news cycle... It has been 70% Shedeur Sanders... think of what the team that drafts him at this point is going to go through. I can guarantee Sanders will not go on TV and say something along the lines of, this is a humbling experience, I'm going to get off social media, put my head down and do my best to learn the play book and show the "insert team here" they made the right choice taking a chance on me. It WILL be, Ima prove all those other teams wrong for not picking me. They gonna regret every time they come up against me.

There's a time and a place for the latter... if he was drafted mid to late first, then that can be a motivator. At this point, if he doesn't come out humble as shit, it will show everyone they made the right choice.

Did anyone see the prank phone call he got about getting drafted? It was very mean, but it was kind of priceless at the same time.

 

Because of that circus I do wonder if he gets drafted at all at this point.

And no, I didn’t see the prank. I hate watching stuff like that.

 

Yeah... Falcons couldn't trade this year's fifth. No idea why... (nice job ATL front office!)

From the published reports that I read, the team was cleared on all of the *serious* tampering allegations regarding Cousins. Otherwise the penalty would have been much, much worse. But apparently they made improper travel arrangements for Cousins, Darnell Mooney and Charlie Woerner, so the penalty was a 5th rounder. Same penalty as 2016 when they lost the pick because the PR guy had arranged piped in crowd noise inside the stadium and they played it past the allowed cutoff point.

With that in mind I love the trade. It's already a better use of the 5th round pick than the fake crowd noise or improper use of Arthur Blank's jet...

A future 5th to move up just 5 spots at the back end of the 3rd round might seem steep, but it's always important to remember that the teams trading up are doing so for a specific player, not a specific pick. Whatever point chart you use, the comparison is the estimated point value of the PLAYER vs the point value of the picks given up in trade. The rankings that I see have Watts ranked in the #45-60 overall range. So the trade was #101 + future 5th for the pick that became Xavier Watts. Works for me.

The downside is what I said before the draft... it's hard to be too stoked about taking a DB when the defense is on its fourth scheme / fourth defensive coordinator in four years. They drafted Richie Grant in 2021 in the second round and certainly didn't do him any favors in his development in the last two years. Another draft prospect from two years ago, DeMarcco Hellams, was set to take over the starting role last summer but got hurt in preseason and spent the year on IR. So now that Watts is here, does that mean Hellams doesn't really fit the plans for this year's new DC and scheme? This feels like yet more roster churn.

 

Other funny thing about the Falcons-Rams trade where Atlanta moved up to take Pearce...

In 2023, the Falcons made a trade deadline move with the Rams to get WR Van Jefferson. The price was they flipped the 6th and 7th rounders in THIS year's draft (not last year). That's why Atlanta had no sixth rounder and part of why they had two seventh rounders.

In 2024, the Falcons hired Raheem Morris as the head coach. The Rams got a compensatory third rounder this year.

And this year, the Falcons and Rams made the trade where Atlanta moved from the 2nd into the back of the first to take Pearce. The headline part of the trade was that the Falcons gave up next year's first rounder, but the rest of it was that Atlanta also gave up a seventh rounder this year but got back a third rounder this year.

The amusing part is the seventh rounder sent to LA was the Rams' own pick, sent to Atlanta in the flip on the Van Jefferson trade. And the third that Atlanta got (and then traded out of, moving up to get Xavier Watts) was the Rams' compensatory pick for Atlanta hiring Morris.

Put it all together and Atlanta got a rental on Van Jefferson, coach Raheem Morris, James Pearce Jr and Xavier Watts. Rams got Terrance Ferguson, Atlanta's 6th and 7th this year... and Atlanta's 1st next year. I'd say Les Snead got the upper hand on Terry Fontenot overall.

 

Bond just sucks before even accounting for his flags. I wouldn't even draft him then. I figure some GM will fall in love with his traits and take him though.

 

Damn they grow up fast.

 

Busy polishing his shotgun.

Not sure if she is a senior in HS though. My sense of time is really bad lately lol.

 

Clear BPA to me not counting Sanders. Eagles already took a safety so it made sense for both teams. Eagles getting a future 5th, a 6th and a bump in the 4th is worth moving back 15 spots.