Coming from one of the lowest-IQ posters, I take that as a point of pride. You actually just proved my point. By being a shorter QB with the odds infinitely stacked against you, you have to be better, work harder, and out-perform mediocre prototype QBs. Baker Mayfield has done that. More than that, he's legitimately in the discussion at #1 overall and most consider him at least a Top 10 pick. Huh? Is that more low-information posting? Ben Roethlisberger - 6'5" Tom Brady - 6'4" Eli Manning (probably) - 6'4" Aaron Rodgers - 6'2" Matt Stafford (maybe) - 6'2" Drew Brees - 6'0" Russell Wilson - 5'11" "Short" potential HOF QBs outnumber the taller ones 3:2 or 4:3.
Dude, you got 3 tall ones and two short ones that are guaranteed. Wilson doesn’t have enough time in the league to consider yet, and only a moron would list Stafford. Obviously my IQ is higher than yours because you listed Stafford.
I will tell you what....you take Lamar Jackson and Mayfield and I will take Rosen and Darnold and see what happens
If Drew Bledsoe isn't getting in, neither is Matt Ryan. Wilson has a Super Bowl ring and the second-highest passer rating of all time.
Obviously, you're an idiot. Stafford, since being healthy, averages 4,564 yards and 28 touchdowns a season. If he keeps that up and plays into his mid-30s, he'd finish with 62,133 yards and 372 touchdowns. That'd be 5th all-time in yards and 6th all-time in scores. Please stop drooling all over your keyboard as you stare, mouth agape at your screen attempting to join coherent thoughts together. It's really kind of embarrassing.
You can’t handle the truth, shorter QBs are not in demand in the NFL, never have been. Now you want put every QB under 6’2” in the HOF. And just why are you bundling 6’2” QBs with the 6’ and under crowd. Teams are okay with 6’2” QBs, it’s just the midgets that they don’t like. You might want to have your brain examined because you are getting dumber by the minute.
6'2" is the magical height listed by our coach on several occasions as a pre-requisite to be a successful QB in this league. Prototype size is 6'4" +, so in that mindset anything below is shorter. Also, as was stated, by the time the 6' QBs get to college they're already told they're going to be a DB, RB, Slot Receiver, etc. Is it really that hard to see that when the shorter guys actually DO get the chance, they succeed. HOWEVER, in all the 'football guys' minds, they would rather have Kyle Boller, Jamarcus Russell, Blake Bortles over Drew Brees, Russell Wilson, Maker Baefield.
On a side note not pertaining to the current conversation, but the thread overall, I saw a stat this morning that was something like only 27% of Lamar Jacksons rushing yards came off of not designed QB runs. So while his running numbers are gaudy, it shows that he runs when he has to and doesn't just take off running for the hell of it all the time.
I've seen it mentioned a couple times, too, so sorry if this is repeating... but Lamar Jackson has more rushing yards than Saquon Barkley. I get that a lot of QB rankings are based on potential but I don't buy the grades given. I look at Mayfield and Rosen as pretty polished guys that may (arguably) have lower overall ceilings than Darnold and Allen. But if people salivate over Allen - who looks just awful - how can they not rank Jackson above him? "No, I hate the idea of a quarterback with the athleticism of Mike Vick but who's also a much better passer than he was at the same point and who has shown marked improvement every season. Gimme the tall, small school guy with a dozen staples and surgeries on his throwing shoulder because I once saw him heave it through the uprights from his knees at the 50 yard line."
Might be one of the reasons he needed those staples in that shoulder... In what world is there a need to throw a ball through the uprights from the 50 yard line? A hail mary is just that, throw the ball and pray...It RARELY works in your favor, so for that to be the main reason you take a QB, well, that is piss poor planning.
Yeah... I don't want a gameplan based around 50+ passes. That usually means you're incredibly behind and need to score a ton of points in a minimum amount of time. Other notable QBs who could throw it through the uprights from the 50-yard line off their knees: Kyle Boller JaMarcus Rusell Courtland Sutton (WR, okay... not a QB but the point still stands)
