You know what, I think he is probably going in the 1st and sneak into the 2nd but not everyone thinks so I'll backtrack. Some think he is a 3rd round pick and apparently that was the consensus beforehand. I never really looked at any draft grades and he wasn't considered a 1st by most until the combine. I must have just had him much higher than average beforehand.
You're falling right into the "Stopper Trap", Joe by assuming he can actually think. The only thing he thinks about is how to troll this board and piss people off. (That, and having anal sex with Chief Osceola)
So to be clear, every scout and coach that Albert Breer - one of the hardest working guys in the business - talked to thought Mayfield was better. Dane Brugler, who posted the tweet you (@showstopper) initially took issue with, said the guy he talked to ranked Baker at #1. Baker is a generational QB and we completely screw the best draft position in the past 30 years by passing on him.
I will say for the 100th time I make my own judgements and film study....don't need Albert Breer to tell me what I saw
Generational QB and RB in the same draft...Someone else mentioned it already, but, what would the Giants need for a move from #4 to #2...Would #4, #64, a 2019 2nd rounder and DeShone Kizer do it? It gives them a reason to not take a QB at #4, which gives the the opportunity to take Bradley Chubb if the Colts trade out of #3 to give another team a shot at a QB. I would do it in a heart beat....even though I would like to keep Kizer, I would do it in order to get both Barkley and Mayfield in this locker room.
Honestly, you think NYG would say were good w Kizer in the future but the Browns are trading him why?
I think we've already established, you make your judgements... THEN decide to do some film study after the fact....so at least you got them in the right order in your statement above. Also, let me take this moment in time to explain something else to you... Study = research or a detailed examination and analysis of a subject, phenomenon, etc. What you did was "watch" the combine...I certainly wouldn't call what you did study based on your statements.
No, he's their current top ten veteran QB that has another 2-3 years left in the tank. They actually have time to develop Kizer behind one of the top QBs of the last decade and a half. We have, most likely, AJ McCarron coming in...AND a top 4 draft pick QB.. The Giants are looking for a developmental, but all indications are they don't want one at #2. It seems they would rather take another higher ranked prospect...this would give them the out they are looking for.