2017 NFL DRAFT - RUNNING BACKS

Discussion in 'Cleveland Browns' started by TopDawg, Feb 9, 2017.

  1. SAS M.V.P. Rams Chargers

    Running Back Red Flags: Fumble Rates

    One of my favorites - Kareem Hunt - top of his class with an unreal number.

    Just to mess with showstopper, I'm officially taking Dalvin Cook off my board.

     
  2. So does Cook 99% of the time...he took his eye off it cause he wanted 2 make the big play...his hands are above avg...I stated he needs 2 work on ball security and it has improved...instant impact player and I'm hoping he goes 2 Indy and plays in that offense w a great QB and weapons on the perimeter...heck old man Gore can run the ball in that offense imagine Cook...lights out
     
  3. Lyman "Franchise Asshole" Browns Buckeyes

    Que Sammy with targets and receptions data in 3 . . . 2 . . . 1
     
  4. If he goes to Indy...1270 yds rushing, 25 catches 300 yds and 12 total TDs
     
  5. TopDawg Legend

    Stopper, I'm not gonna do it, but I guarantee if you looked , you could find footage of Marshall Faulk dropping a pass that was right to him..lol! You could also find Jerry Rice and anybody else...I know it was a blatant drop, but it happens. All reports are that Dalvin Cook has excellent hands and is a great receiving threat....This is simply blowing one drop way out of proportion IMO..
     
  6. No doubt...Michigan game he runs a go route and catches it 40 yds down field...makes it look easy
     
  7. TopDawg Legend

    The big comparison is Cook vs. Fournette....I like Cook because he's got more shiftiness, wiggle, juke, whatever you wanna call it. If the run blitz is on, he can still come up with 5 yards. Fournette has scary size, but I fear his propensity to bring on the contact will shorten his career, and I don't think he's as effective in the passing game...
     
  8. SAS M.V.P. Rams Chargers

    Actually... my handy-dandy reference site only has target data for the pros, none for college. I assume that he does have a pretty high catch rate simply because most passes to running backs are going to easier throws within 0 - 5 yards of the LOS.

    Cook and Fournette (as [notify]top dawg[/notify] pointed out) are the two to compare, however, and for me, it's not close.

    Cook lacks the size to be an every down back, padded a gaudy YPC number with break-away runs that I simply don't think will exist at the NFL level, and has ball security issues.

    He fumbled six times in 2016, twice as many as 2015 (three). Makes me wonder if he watches the games or film.

    Compare him with Fournette? That's not even fair.

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    That hit makes my teeth hurt.
     
  9. Campbell Administrator Manager Commissioner

    My favorite part? Fournette actually slows just a bit before accelerating then exploding into his target. I have Leonard over Cook by a pretty sizeable margin. Runningbacks with tenacity get bonus points. *THUMBSUP*
     
  10. SAS M.V.P. Rams Chargers

    I can agree to a C.J. comparison, but it's not Johnson.

    #CJSpiller2.0
     
  11. TopDawg Legend

    If Cook = CJ Spiller

    then...

    Fournette = Trent Richardson
     
  12. Salute that....Spiller was injured all the time....Fournette is injured all the time....give me Cook all day long
     
  13. Look I know u guys have your opinion, but I have been watching him since his Frosh yr...he has dominated his 3 biggest opponents every yr(Clem, Miami and Fla)...he just surpassed an all time great at FSU in Warrick Dunn(great NFL career) no question Cook is the better player....he can take it to the house on any touch and there is no doubt he will make a HUGE impact his rookie yr and beyond
     
  14. Campbell Administrator Manager Commissioner

    There are always questions as to how well a rookie will play when he steps up a level, and usually it has just as much to do with the situation he lands in as it does his natural ability.
     
  15. True but he's not going top 5(I don't think) so he shuld fall into a good situation
     
  16. TopDawg Legend

    Fournette and Cook are both really solid RB's, and a case can be made for either one as to whom is actually the better NFL prospect, I must admit. If more than 15 picks separate them on draft day, it will be surprising. As much as I want the Browns to focus on defense, I wouldn't be upset at all if they decided to take a shot at either of these backs with the #12 pick...And if not, there are others I like later, and one guy that really stands out to me is Curtis Samuel. Amazing athlete that can get that separation, and know's what to do once the ball is in his hands...Not a guy that you will give 20 carries to, but he can effect a game in his own way. The Pats RB caught 14 passes in the SB. Having a guy that can roll out of the backfield and just be a match-up nightmare for the defense is an awesome thing. Line him up anywhere. Curtis Samuel could be a ridiculous weapon for a creative guy like Hue Jackson....


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  17. SAS M.V.P. Rams Chargers

    I actually don't disagree with that. Trent Richardson was the #3 overall pick for good reason... he was the closest thing to an Adrian Peterson clone that had come along since 2007.

    Richardson's work ethic and ability to comprehend an NFL playbook ruined his career but the talent was always there. I would posit that's really Fournette's only limitation to becoming an all-time great: work ethic and comprehension.
     
  18. Lyman "Franchise Asshole" Browns Buckeyes

    Couldn't that be said about any highly ranked draftee?
     
  19. Lyman "Franchise Asshole" Browns Buckeyes

    Couldn't that be said about any highly ranked draftee?
     
  20. SAS M.V.P. Rams Chargers

    Any highly-ranked "can't miss" guy, yeah. That's why the interviews with the players are so important and it boggles my mind that people still get them wrong (or don't do them, in Ray Farmer's case).
     

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