Who's Most To Blame For That Loss

In no particular order, those are the options. Who have you got/takes the biggest % of blame?

ST's may look like a wildcard and prob is, but actually played a big role in this game too cos we lost the field position battle hands down, which always matters in a 1 score game.

Whether it was O'Donnell being completely outplayed by his opposite number, Cohen letting the ball bounce/roll and costing 20yards, the field was flipped way too often, way too easily. Anyway i put it in.

 

In order...

Nagy
Trubisky
Oline
O'Donnell
ST in general
Deon Bush

 

Trubs. No one even close.

Even with the shitty, horrible play calling and Nagy going for it instead of taking a possible 3, if we had an average QB last night I'm confident we win the game. It's a QB league. We all know a great defense, even a great play caller (which Nagy is not) can only take us so far. Last night was one of those games where the QB can lose it for you and ours definitely did.

 

Nagy. We saw that Trubisky was limited last year, and hoped that he'd be better this year because we didn't have evidence to show us one way or the other until week one. Nagy, on the other hand, watched him every day in practice, and chose not to play him in preseason. He knew what Trubisky was / wasn't capable of, and did nothing productive about it. Nagy should've seen it and been proactive. He wasn't, so we lost.

 

Top 3 or simply put EVERYONE other than the Defense.

 

I thought the play calling right from the get go was indicative of Nagy having zero confidence in Trubs. The gadgety stuff popped up here and there, as it did last season for better or worse. The point I'm trying to make is that Nagy seemed to realize he had a dud at QB all throughout the game and, at least the passing play calls, showed that clearly. Nagy's failure was getting away from the run in the second half and not getting Montgomery more involved. But all of that could have been mitigated by an average game from Trubs.

 

33 straight passing plays to finish the game.

With a 1 score deficit.

That is all.

 

Holy fuck.

 

Nagy. He is just blind to what he has in Trubisky. I am starting to think that every time Nagy watches Trubisky play both during practice and in games that he is seeing what he hopes Trubisky could be and not what he really is. Magnifying the positives and ignoring the negatives.

I felt the exact opposite. Nagy has way too much confidence in Trubisky. In this game more than any last season Nagy was an OC with a big ego instead of a head coach. Continuously putting it in Trubisky’s hands to drive the team down field. That series when Mitch has the two delay of game penalties. How often do you see the HC calling the TO before the clock goes to zeros? Where the fuck was Nagy. Zoned in like an OC, thinking two plays ahead instead of managing the here and now. Hopefully Nagy got a big slice of humble pie and will get his shit straight.

 

Oh, and also, even with his garbage punts MegaCunt had 67 more yards punting than our rushing and passing combined.

Chew on that one for awhile.

 

Bear-man pointed out on another thread, 20 of 26 completions behind, at, or within 7 yards of the LOS. That is totally demonstrative of a coach who has zero faith to open up the playbook for his QB. Trust me I'm not excusing Nagy for being totally unprepared and inept, but the point is he doesn't have faith in his QB either. He has faith in his gimmicky, predictably unpredictable play calls, i.e. Patterson right up the gut on third and 1.

I have never known what it's like to have a big game QB on my football team. Never. Must be awesome. Packers fans are so spoiled rotten it sickens me.

 

This from the guy that calls the fucking plays...

 

Including sacks and scrambles Nagy called 53 pass plays to 12 running plays. In a game that was never more than a one score game. If that isn’t overconfidence I don’t know what is. Not all of his 20 completions were meant to be short passes.

Nagy’s faith in his gimmicky, way too pass happy, overly complicated for no good reason play book coincides directly with his faith in his QB to execute it. Fox had no faith in Trubisky hence the run run pass high school offense he ran with him as QB. The balance is somewhere in between.

 

Trubisky had SIX (count ‘em - 6) attempts out of 45 over 20 yards. Yes, 20 yards.... in those:

2-6 1 INT.

The short passes were absolutely by design.

 

6 pass attempt of 20 or more yards over a full season would be 96. Last season Patrick Mahomes led the league in pass attempts of 20 or more yards with 81. Do you know who finished 3rd in pass attempts of 20 or more air yds? Mitchel Trubisky with 64. He completed 22 of them. Tied for 7th most.

So saying that Nagy has a short passing offense or that he doesn’t trust Trubisky and doesn’t call for deep passes is just false in every sense of the word.

He has TOO MUCH TRUST.

 

Lot of blame to go around. And Mitch did shit the bed. But was that because he hasn't taken a real snap in 9 months??? Anyone not blaming Nagy as the lead fuck-up didn't watch the game.

As a side note, the Shaheen "not catch" where Kyle Long tackled him looked like a catch from my perspective. And given it happened right in front of me, I kinda trust my eyes - regardless of how drunk I was.

This was the play right before the INT.

With that, this morning, on 670, several callers said the replay showed it was indeed a catch. Would have given us 1st and goal from the 9.

Going to review the All-22 but my guess is that angle won't give me the answer.

Regardless, it was at a minimum worth a challenge. He had 2 fucking flags in his pocket and 3 timeouts....

 

Two things can be true. 1) Nagy placed as lot of trust in Mitch last season as evidenced by the numbers you highlight. 2) Nagy didn't place a lot of trust in Mitch last night with all those passes <10 yards.

Either way we all agree Nagy failed badly in all areas last night.

 

Probably a couple reasons no one is pointing this out. First, we have zero faith Mitch would have gotten us in the end zone. Second, wasn't it actually a catch and fumble? If so, the Packers recovered, although I can't remember if the whistle had already blown.

 

I've been busy with a move, a new stepson, and plenty else. But I just got the NFL International Game Pass (fooled them into thinking I was in India) so I could watch out of market games live. I think that includes the All-22 and replay of the game. I'll take a look, and share thoughts on all of the above. Everyone makes a lot of good points that I have an opinion on based on my one watch of the game, so I'm interested in examining the evidence.