Who to keep?

Discussion in 'Fantasy Football General Discussion' started by Underdog, Jul 16, 2020.

  1. Underdog Franchise Player Patriots

    12 team PPR, 1/20. Start QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, Flex

    League was originally a redraft, this is first year we can keep up to 2 players at cost round player was drafted in last year +1 (10th round for fa pickups)

    Derrick Henry 3rd
    Russel Wilson 5th
    A.J. Brown 10th

    Brown is tempting in PPR but Tannehill turning back into a pumpkin would hurt him and relying on two players from that offense is a little scary too. Russ was #3 QB last year and pretty reliable bet he’ll be top 5 again. But QB is pretty deep, guessing probably only Lamar and maybe Mahomes will be kept.

    Thoughts?
     
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  2. Campbell Administrator Manager Commissioner

    Is there a cap on the number of years you can keep a player?
     
  3. Underdog Franchise Player Patriots

    It goes +2 in subsequent years.

    So I could keep Henry in the 3rd this year and the 1st next year and then not again, whereas Brown I could in theory keep through 2025 before I had to throw him back.

    I have the 12th pick, snake draft, if that influences your thinking at all.
     
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  4. Campbell Administrator Manager Commissioner

    That would have been my next question.
    :)


    That’s an interesting wrinkle...

    And this would apply to both keepers I assume?

    Let me think on it a bit and I’ll give you my opinion.
     
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  5. Underdog Franchise Player Patriots

    Correct. Thanks.
     
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  6. Campbell Administrator Manager Commissioner

    A.J. Brown is a definite out of the 3 based on the information you gave. The fact that he can be held onto for multiple seasons and could eventually equate to a second or first round pick in PPR leagues makes him an easy pick to like. He's rocking out at about a late 3rd/early 4th round selection in redraft PPR so getting him at over double his ADP is a pretty sweet deal. I can dig the concerns about Tannehill but Brown's upside is remarkable and the chance at an upgrade at passer in the near to immediate future may be higher than the perception.

    The choice between Henry and Wilson is what I'm left with. At no point will Wilson become a first round value in PPR so having him in RD5 this season is nice, RD3 next a lot less and RD1 two years from now makes him more or less a one, maybe two year hold.

    Henry will go in the first so getting him at RD3 is solid value in the immediate, and depending on your rules for trading keepers (based on another owner's slot to hold him in if traded in the off-season) there could be a solid return in moving him if you feel less comfortable with keeping him as a first rounder next year. He's going to have four more years in an offense that will favor his abilities and even with a drop in TDs the value this year and potentially for the next few is rock solid.

    I'd likely go with Henry and Brown. You may not get Wilson back but you have a chance to acquire a solid pair of players on the turn from RD1 to RD2 and go back after a QB at the next turn if you feel you have no choice. It also gives you more trading power to have either of Brown or Henry on the block compared to Wilson (I'm going to go ahead and assume the new owner would take on the +2 rather than the preseason original RD).

    Depending on the other keepers, and what round the end up in, you might be able to play the board nicely at every turn to limit holes between lots of options being selected.
     
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  7. Underdog Franchise Player Patriots

    That’s pretty much where I was leaning. Thank you so much for the thorough analysis to reinforce the decision.
     
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  8. Jeanquev Legend Steelers

    My opinion is pretty much what Tim said and pretty much for the same reasons he said. You were leaning that way already and now you have 2 leaning the same way.
     
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  9. Brown is tempting in PPR but Tannehill turning back into a pumpkin would hurt him and relying on two players from that offense is a little scary too.


    It's a gamble Dog going with 2 Titans.........BUT they drafted Isaiah Wilson 1st for a reason......he will help the "O" Line.
     
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  10. Underdog Franchise Player Patriots

    Full squad after the draft:

    QB D. Watson
    RB D. Henry, A. Jones, D. Harris, T. Pollard, J. Jackson, J. Williams, B. Love
    WR AJ Brown, DK Metcalf, M. Brown, D. Slayton, C. Claypool
    TE G. Kittle
    K J. Tucker
    D Baltimore
     
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  11. gidion72 Legend Steelers

    Don’t you need another QB?
     
  12. Underdog Franchise Player Patriots

    Not til week 8. There’ll be a decent streaming option available.
     
  13. Campbell Administrator Manager Commissioner

    Solid lineup.

    If AJ Dillon is on the wire you might want to keep a close eye on him. I expect his role in GB to increase rather quickly and he likely is the long term handcuff (potential replacement) for Jones.
     
  14. Underdog Franchise Player Patriots

    Nah pretty much any RB worth even a potential damn was drafted, and most of them way earlier than I’d’ve taken them. I had every intention of taking both Dillon and Williams at the R11/12 turn, but he went 3 picks before me. So I settled for Williams and Justin Jackson.
     
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  15. Jeanquev Legend Steelers

    16 team 4 keeper start 1 qb 2rb 2wr 1rb/wr 1k 1dst. Out of the following who should I keep (only listed guys that would be considered). Draft is snake style and I pick 15 but I do notmhave a first round draft pick.

    Justin Hebert qb lac
    Josh Allen qb buf
    Mike Davis rb atl
    Cam akers rb lar
    Phillip Lindsey rb hou
    Ke'shawn vaughn rb tb
    AJ Brown wr ten
    Tim Patrick wr den
    Mike Williams wr lac
    Tyler Boyd wr cin
    Robert Tonyan te gb
     
  16. Underdog Franchise Player Patriots

    Akers, Brown, and the two QB’s
     
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  17. LAOJoe Assistant Coach Manager Patreon Silver Maple Leafs Eagles

    I probably have to agree with him. Akers and Brown are locks. Out of the rest the best value are Allen and Herbert. Anyone else you can get a few rounds after either. I wouldn't fault you for dumping Herbert for someone else you are high on but if you are high on them you can just draft that guy sooner.
     
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  18. Jeanquev Legend Steelers

    TY I was debating between Brown and Davis and was already leaning to keeping the 2 qbs just because with 16 teams good qbs become hard to get quick.
     
  19. IrishDawg42 Legend Manager Browns Buckeyes Fighting Irish

    I gotta ask, how did you lose our first round pick?

    That is a tough break with a 4 keeper 16 team league and no first round pick. Especially when, imho, your only choice is to keep your backup QB as one of your 4 keepers. Go heavy on rookies and hope for the best!
     
  20. TopDawg Legend

    So you don't have a pick until #18 overall? That's rough. I don't think you have any RB's worth saving. Possibly Akers, but he's risky IMO. Running game is where you need to focus on draft day....If it were me, I'd keep AJ Brown, Boyd and the two QB's.

    I actually traded Akers for Boyd early on last year, and I was crushing it on that trade until Boyd got injured late in the season.
     
    Last edited: May 28, 2021

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