Hoyer may have known Norv Turner's offense "inside and out", but I doubt he knows Shanny's offense quite that well, yet. And, yes, Manziel is struggling with learning both an NFL style offense and reading NFL caliber defenses. Not to say he can't, but right now, he's still behind in the learning curve. By all accounts, he's running with the 1's today to give the coaching staff an apples to apples comparison. Just like they said the plan was a month ago.
How was Hoyer supposed to know this offense inside and out? lol! Hoyer is a true pro. The dude works hard. But he's not psychic...He is battling the Shanahan playbook too. Obviously the coaches want to see how Manziel looks with the starters. The guy was a first round draft pick for crying out loud...Of course he's going to get some reps with the 1's. I don't even see why this is news.... We will get a good indication of who starts the season in Pittsburgh when Pettine announces the pre-season game #3 starter....Until then, everything is pure speculation.
I didnt even c it Tim....I heard some news from the radio after our football practice and they said 1st play 40 yd bomb to Benj and the players feel a different energy when Manziel enters the huddle....I just think Hoyer is very average and his mobility doesnt fit w Shanahan
Cause he is a vet and was injured so all he culd do was study at different points during the offseason....Manziel didnt even c the playbook until after May
Not that I really seriously want to go there (or believe it), but taking a page from the old Stopper How-To Manual.......... Manziel might not have received the playbook until after May, but he was too busy to look at it because he was off partying on inflatable pool swans, rolling bills in men's rooms and living large in Las Vegas.
Wondering Irish about the split with Tate and West at RB. How did West look? Did Tate practice hard and all that?
I'd like to know how in the fuck a radio host knows what the players 'feel' like when John is on the field. Unless there is a player quote for that I'm calling bullshit. Also read that the only reason Haden didn't pick off the throw to Benjamin was because Pettine has them wearing kick-boxing gloves as a training tool (think holding penalties). It was a throw into coverage, much like the rest of his day.
Browns OL Jason Pinkston, 26, expected to retire due to blood clots Jason Pinkston's [62] NFL career is likely over after a second battle with blood clots in his lungs. (USATSI) After three short years in the NFL, Jason Pinkston's career is likely over. The Browns offensive lineman told ESPN.com that he'll probably be retiring due to health reasons. Pinkston has been dealing with blood clots in his lungs for the past 11 days. The offensive lineman reached a settlement with Cleveland and the team released him shortly after that on Monday. "More than likely I'll have to retire," Pinkston texted to ESPN. "The Browns were great working with me and I would love to thank GM Ray Farmer and Owner Jimmy Haslam for my opportunity here in Cleveland. It's been an honor to be apart of the organization and city." Pinkston's most recent battle with blood clots isn't the first time he's had to deal with the issue. The 26-year-old was hospitalized in October 2012 after feeling sick. Pinkston felt ill for several days and thought he had pneumonia, but doctors would later discover that he was sick due to the blood clots. Pinkston missed the final 10 games of the 2012 season, but did return in 2013 to start two games for Cleveland. There will likely be no return to the NFL this time. Pinkston told Cleveland.com on Monday that his most recent blood clots were "way worse than last time." The former fifth-round pick started a total of 24 games for Cleveland, including all 16 during his rookie year in 2011. If Pinkston does end up retiring, he'll join Sidney Rice (27) and David Wilson (23) as players in their mid-20's who were forced out of the game or chose to retire this offseason because of injuries.
As long as Johnny's not getting in trouble, then whats the big deal? If he can't perform on the football field, then I might have a problem with some of the shenanigans. If he's not prepared, then yes, we have to look at his off field behavior. What he's basically done so far, due to his admitted immaturity, is given himself very little margin for error in the eyes of many Browns fans. I don't think it's all that fair, but that's how it goes...I imagine a lot of us made regretable decisions when we were his age. All ya can hope is Johnny is learning from these mistakes ..Gotta give him a shot though before we judge him too harshly. This guy might be the QB that finally gets the Browns going. He could be the one that gets the Cleveland Browns their first Super Bowl... If he does that, who really cares what "pop stars" he hangs out with in his free time?
The Morning Kickoff ? Separating from the pack: There?s a new hopeful emerging from the tight pack of wide receivers at Browns camp and his name is Willie Snead. That?s Willie Snead IV, which is what he wants on his jersey if he beats the odds and makes the Browns? final roster. I don?t believe the Browns have ever had a IV (or fourth). Snead has been a feisty one since arriving from Ball State, and now has separated from the group of undrafted wideouts in camp, which started with five and has been whittled to three. Snead caught two passes for first downs in the team scrimmage Saturday in Akron. The first was for 9 yards from Brian Hoyer on third-and-8, and the second was for 14 from Johnny Manziel on fourth-and-4. Snead followed up with two touchdown catches at Monday?s practice ? a reaching, back-of-the-end zone, hands-only special of a Connor Shaw throw, and then one running down the right seam after he recognized ?zero coverage,? meaning no safety help, and alertly looked for one of Hoyer?s quick-read passes. Snead accelerated to the end zone 70 yards away. ?We connect,? Snead said of Hoyer. ?We get the extra work in and talk in meetings. ?I?m just trying to work my way up the depth chart. I saw how I can do that -- make plays like I did out here today and just keep doing it tomorrow.? Standing out: Coach Mike Pettine has noticed the 5-11, 195-pound receiver with the Anderson Varejao hair. ?When we talk about ?play like a Brown,? he hits a lot of those spots,? Pettine said to me after Monday?s practice. ?Guys on defense don?t like him very much, which is usually a compliment because he mixes it up with them. I think there was a fight early. He?s not afraid to get a little bit dirty blocking. He runs good routes and has good ball skills.? ?I?m an aggressive football player,? Snead acknowledged. ?I like to put hands on guys. Most DBs don?t like that. That comes wherever I go. It?s a problem for DBs.? Joe Haden has noticed him, too. ?He runs really good routes, he catches the ball, he?s strong with his hands, he blocks well. He?s just not afraid,? Haden said. ?He comes out and does what he has to do. And he?s physical.? The Browns discovered Snead when they worked out prolific Ball State quarterback Keith Wenning of Coldwater, OH, prior to the draft. In Ball State?s shotgun spread offense last fall, Wenning and Snead hooked up for 106 receptions for 1,516 yards and 15 touchdowns. Against a different level of competition, those numbers bested Clemson's Sammy Watkins (54 for 1,268 and 12 TDs). Snead blew his NFL Combine 40 with a pedestrian 4.62. A 4.56 at his pro day workout didn?t help his draft cause, and he was not drafted. ?Because of my speed, height,? he said. ?I?m not the biggest guy on the field. I don?t know if I pass the ?look test.? But for sure when I get on that field and those pads come on that?s when I turn my game up to another level.? Snead was helped by a fleeting association between his father, Willie III, and Pettine. They were football teammates one year at University of Virginia. But it wasn?t Pettine who called on draft day but Mike McDaniel, Browns receivers coach, who made an offer early in the seventh round on the third day of the draft. ?My dad told me this was a great opportunity,? Snead said. ?Every receiver here is new to the system, and to the coaches. My dad felt like this would be a smart move to come here. My agent backed me up 100 percent. He thought Cleveland was a great spot to be with Johnny Manziel and everything that?s happened in the Cleveland area.? Being undrafted, Snead is inspired by the usual receiver suspects of free agent success stories ? Miles Austin, his new teammate, and Victor Cruz of the Giants, whom he studies on film ?all the time.? Pettine and GM Ray Farmer are enamored with players like Snead, who carry chips on their shoulders. ?You see a lot of guys successful in this league, especially at that position, that were not high draft picks,? Pettine said. ?Those are the guys you know are not going to give up because nothing?s handed to them.? A new rabbit chaser: Snead is rapidly becoming a popular player in the locker room. Veteran receiver Anthony Armstrong crashed a media visit with Snead and posed as an interviewer. Armstrong: ?There?s a lot of nice hair on the team. Where do you get your hair done at?? Snead: ?I don?t get my hair done. I wash it every night, mix in conditioner and leave it at that.? Armstrong: ?Any tips for me, for what I should do with mine?? Snead: ?Yeah, grow it out.? Moments later, Travis Benjamin poked his head in the media huddle circling Snead. ?He?s also from Belle Glade (FL). He also chased rabbits with me growing up. He was my quarterback my senior year at high school.? Snead: ?That was for sure. I was a freshman when he was a senior.? Snead said he was a scrambler quarterback like Manziel in high school and converted to receiver at Ball State. In his junior, and final, year at Ball State, Snead?s 1,516 yards ranked third in the nation, and his nine games of 100 or more yards receiving was first. And despite his non-blazing speed, he did manage to catch one of those jackrabbits in the childhood pastime in Belle Glade that was first disclosed last season by Benjamin. It earned Benjamin the nickname, the Rabbit. ?Those rabbits, they?re hard to catch,? Snead said. ?They?re flying around so fast, if you don?t get them by the ears, they?re gone. I did get one." Now he just may chase down a roster spot.
The Cleveland Plain Dealer's Mary Kay Cabot reports suspended WR Josh Gordon is expecting a decision on his appeal in 1-3 weeks. Gordon's hearing continued and concluded on Monday while he listened in via phone after practicing with the team. The 1-3 week timeframe is longer than most expected, and isn't exactly getting Gordon an answer in a "timely" fashion. It doesn't sound like we'll know anything this week. All we can do is wait.
Ah yes, a fantasy football "expert." What better place to get info than a guy who manages an imaginary team and also contributes to SeeBS and Sirius-XM as a fantasy expert. Hell, Stopper, most of the members of Mud-N-Cleats who play fantasy football or are just fans have the same qualifications as this bozo to qualitatively analyze football. And I'd give the edge to TD or Irish on anything Browns related.
A group of women were at a seminar on how to live in a loving relationship with their husbands. The women were asked, "How many of you love your husband?" All of the women raised their hands. Then they were asked, "When was the last time you told your husband you loved him?" Some women answered today, a few yesterday, and some couldn't remember. The women were then told to take out their cell phones and text their husband: "I love you, sweetheart." The women were then told to exchange their phones with another person, and to read aloud the text message they received in response. Here are some of the replies: I. Who the hell is this? 2. Hey, mother of my children, are you sick or what? 3. Yes, and I love you too. What's up?? 4. What now? Did you wreck the car again? 5. I don't understand what you mean? 6. What the shit did you do now? 7. Don't beat around the bush, just tell me how much you need? 8. Am I dreaming? 9. If you don't tell me who this message is actually for, someone will die. 10. I thought we agreed you wouldn't drink during the day. 11. Your mother is coming to stay with us, isn't she?