Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper sucks thread!!

True....ok I'm feeling slightly better. Thanks for that.

 

37. Martavius Bryant, WR, Clemson
53. DaQuan Jones, DT, Penn State
54. Carl Bradford, ILB, Arizona State
61. Keith McGill, CB, Utah
62. David Yankey, OG Stanford
63. Cameron Fleming, OT, Stanford
64. Trevor Reilly, OLB, Utah
65. Pierre Desir, CB, Lindenwood
66. Telvin Smith, OLB, Florida State
70. Dakota Dozier, OG, Furman
72. Jaylen Watkins, CB, Florida
73. Tom Savage, QB, Pittsburgh
74. Andre Williams, RB, Boston College
75. Kelcey Quarles, DT, South Carolina
76. Bruce Ellington, WR, South Carolina
79. Ross Cockrell, CB, Duke
82. Walt Aikens, CB, Liberty
83. Dion Bailey, S, USC
86. James Gayle, OLB, Virginia Tech
87. Caraun Reid, DT, Princeton
89. Lache Seastrunk, RB, Baylor
91. Taylor Hart, DT, Oregon
92. Justin Ellis, DT, Louisiana Tech
93. Yawin Smallwood, ILB, UConn
94. Rashad Reynolds, CB, Oregon State
95. Arthur Lynch, TE, Georgia
98. Jordan Tripp, OLB, Montana
99. Howard Jones, OLB, Shepherd
101. Victor Hampton, CB, South Carolina
102. Christian Jones, LB, Florida State
103. Taylor Hart, DT, Oregon
104. Jordan Zuwalt, OLB, UCLA
105. Chris Smith, OLB, Arkansas
108. Brandon Coleman, WR, Rutgers
109. KaDeem Carey, RB, Arizona
110. E.J. Gaines, CB, Missouri
111. Kevin Norwood, WR, Alabama
112. Isiah Crowell, RB, Alabama State
114. Antonio Richardson, OT, Clemson
116. Craig Loston, S, LSU
117. Rashad Reynolds, S, Stanford
118. Ricardo Allen, CB, Purdue
119. Adrian Hubbard, OLB, Alabama
120. Louichez Purifoy, CB, Florida
121. Shamar Stephen, DT, UConn
122. James White, RB, Wisconsin
123. Ricardo Allen, CB,Purdue
124. Jeff Janis, WR, Saginaw Valley
125. Devonta Freeman, RB, Florida State
126. Aaron Colvin, CB, Oklahoma
127. Blake Annen, TE, Cincinnati
128. James Hurst, OT, North Carolina
129. Andre Hal, CB, Vanderbilt
130. Khari Fortt, OLB, California
131. Shane Skov, LB, Stanford
132. Jared Abbrederis, WR, Wisconsin
134. D?Anthony Thomas, RB, Oregon
135. Brock Vereen, SS Minnesota
137. Ahmad Dixon, S, Baylor
138. Antoinne Exum, CB, Virginia Tech
139. Kenny Ladler, S, Vanderbilt
140. Shaq Richardson, CB, Arizona
141. Cyril Richardson, OG, Baylor
142. Lamin Barrow, ILB, LSU
143. Xavier Grimble, TE, USC
144. Cody Hoffman, WR, BYU
145. Storm Johnson, RB UCF
146. Brent Urban, DT, Virginia
147. Bryan Stork, C, Florida State
149. Marqueston Huff, S Wyoming
150. Devon Kennard, OLB, USC
151. Kevin Pierre-Louis, OLB, Boston College
152. Chris Davis, CB, Auburn
154. Rajon Neal, RB, Tennesee
155. Cassius Marsh, DE, UCLA
156. DeAndre Coleman, DT, California
157. Beau Allen, DT, Wisconsin
158. Dontae Johnson, CB, NC State
159. Marcel Jensen, TE, San Jose State
160. Ron Powell, OLB, FLorida
161. Ryan Carrethers, DT, Arkansas State
162. Max Bullough, ILB, Michigan State
163. Tre Boston, S, North Carolina
164. Prince Shembo, LB, Notre Dame
165. Matt Pachan, OT, Boston College
166. Ethan Westbrooks, DE, West Texas A&M
167. Matt Hazel, WR Coastal Carolina
168. Lorenzo Tallafero RB Coastal Carolina
169. Zach Kerr, DT Delaware
170. Marion Grice, RB, Arizona State
171. Morgan Breslin, OLB, USC
172. Gabe Ikard, C Oklahoma
173. Josh Uraschel, OG, Penn State
174. Shaq Evans, WR, UCLA
175. Jon Dowling, FS Western Kentucky
176. Shaq Barrett, OLB, Colarado State
177. Andrew Jackson, ILB, W.Kentucky
178. Carrington Byndum, CB, Texas
179. Kevin Graf, OT USC
180. Steven Clark, P, Auburn
181. Deion Belue, CB, Alabama
182. DeDe Lattimore, LB, South Florida
183. Jerome Smith, RB, Syracuse
184. Zach Moore, DT Concordia-St. Paul
185. Hakeem Snith, S, Louisville
186. David Fluellen, RB Toledo
187. George Atkinson III, RB, Notre Dame
188. Alex Neutz, WR, Buffalo
189. Bryn Renner, QB, North Carolina
190. Glen Carson, OLB Penn State
191. Matt Hall, OT Bellhaven
192. Jeff Pagan, DT Alabama
193. L?Damian Washington, WR Missouri
194. Tyler Larsen C Utah State
195. Pierre Warren, S Jacksonville State
196. Spencer Shuey, ILB, Clemson
197. Nikoe Whitley, S, Mississippi State
198. Marquis Spruill, ILB, Syracuse
199. Keith Price, QB, Washington
200. C.J. Barnette, SS Ohio State
201. Kevin Danser, OG Stanford
202. Tajh Boyd, QB Clemson
203. Greg Blair, ILB, Cincinnati
204. Roosevelt Nix, ILB, Kent State
205. Deron Furr, SS, Fort Valley State

You're not you when your [del]hungry.[/del] dead ass tired.

 

Damn whoever forced the Rangers into 5 games in 7 days

 

Morning..

Stopped watching TV after the Pens got spanked... disgusted

Tuitt - I like the pick - player sometimes not int he best of shape - and wears down.. the stength and conditioning coach is going to need to get on his ass.. but he is good..

Archer - Not wild about this one - Toad Haley pick.. panic after McKinnon was picked right in front of them maybe? a Sproles like player.. I think back to games we played vs a team with Sproles on it and was he productive vs a good defensive team? no.. could have waited for him .. and if he would have been gone.. could have cared less.. Time will tell if they blew this pick or not

Was surprised to see Bromley go 3rd round.. I figured later - but loved him in the Shrine game..

Watch #76 today - he came in for a visit.. Would not be surprised if he ends up in black and gold today..

enjoy,

one of the idiots

 

Short list for round 4 today for me are:

37 - visited
61 - no visit
76 - visited
79 - visited

I think its very telling at this point in the draft whether a player was in for a visit with the Steelers. Through the rest of the draft, they will be taking kids that they not only like their talent, they will want them to have a certain attitude and much of that is gleaned from interviews and visits.

That said, I really think they grab their CB in this round if there is even remote value there.

 

I was so deflated by Dri Archer last night I didn't even comment and just went to bed. I didn't even think he was a possibility. It's not a terrible pick, but he'd better put up huge kick return numbers.

I hope he counts as a RB on our roster. We certainly don't have anyone else like Archer on the team.

 

Ok i have some errands to run and such, but today should be along fun day, ill be around for the majority but may be some time due to family commitments.

anyway, warboard:

37. Martavius Bryant, WR, Clemson
53. DaQuan Jones, DT, Penn State
54. Carl Bradford, ILB, Arizona State
61. Keith McGill, CB, Utah
62. David Yankey, OG Stanford
63. Cameron Fleming, OT, Stanford
64. Trevor Reilly, OLB, Utah
65. Pierre Desir, CB, Lindenwood
66. Telvin Smith, OLB, Florida State
70. Dakota Dozier, OG, Furman
72. Jaylen Watkins, CB, Florida
73. Tom Savage, QB, Pittsburgh
74. Andre Williams, RB, Boston College
75. Kelcey Quarles, DT, South Carolina
76. Bruce Ellington, WR, South Carolina
79. Ross Cockrell, CB, Duke
82. Walt Aikens, CB, Liberty
83. Dion Bailey, S, USC
86. James Gayle, OLB, Virginia Tech
87. Caraun Reid, DT, Princeton
89. Lache Seastrunk, RB, Baylor
91. Taylor Hart, DT, Oregon
92. Justin Ellis, DT, Louisiana Tech
93. Yawin Smallwood, ILB, UConn
94. Rashad Reynolds, CB, Oregon State
95. Arthur Lynch, TE, Georgia
98. Jordan Tripp, OLB, Montana
99. Howard Jones, OLB, Shepherd
101. Victor Hampton, CB, South Carolina
102. Christian Jones, LB, Florida State
103. Taylor Hart, DT, Oregon
104. Jordan Zuwalt, OLB, UCLA
105. Chris Smith, OLB, Arkansas
108. Brandon Coleman, WR, Rutgers
109. KaDeem Carey, RB, Arizona
110. E.J. Gaines, CB, Missouri
111. Kevin Norwood, WR, Alabama
112. Isiah Crowell, RB, Alabama State
114. Antonio Richardson, OT, Clemson
116. Craig Loston, S, LSU
117. Rashad Reynolds, S, Stanford
118. Ricardo Allen, CB, Purdue
119. Adrian Hubbard, OLB, Alabama
120. Louichez Purifoy, CB, Florida
121. Shamar Stephen, DT, UConn
122. James White, RB, Wisconsin
123. Ricardo Allen, CB,Purdue
124. Jeff Janis, WR, Saginaw Valley
125. Devonta Freeman, RB, Florida State
126. Aaron Colvin, CB, Oklahoma
127. Blake Annen, TE, Cincinnati
128. James Hurst, OT, North Carolina
129. Andre Hal, CB, Vanderbilt
130. Khari Fortt, OLB, California
131. Shane Skov, LB, Stanford
132. Jared Abbrederis, WR, Wisconsin
134. D?Anthony Thomas, RB, Oregon
135. Brock Vereen, SS Minnesota
137. Ahmad Dixon, S, Baylor
138. Antoinne Exum, CB, Virginia Tech
139. Kenny Ladler, S, Vanderbilt
140. Shaq Richardson, CB, Arizona
141. Cyril Richardson, OG, Baylor
142. Lamin Barrow, ILB, LSU
143. Xavier Grimble, TE, USC
144. Cody Hoffman, WR, BYU
145. Storm Johnson, RB UCF
146. Brent Urban, DT, Virginia
147. Bryan Stork, C, Florida State
149. Marqueston Huff, S Wyoming
150. Devon Kennard, OLB, USC
151. Kevin Pierre-Louis, OLB, Boston College
152. Chris Davis, CB, Auburn
154. Rajon Neal, RB, Tennesee
155. Cassius Marsh, DE, UCLA
156. DeAndre Coleman, DT, California
157. Beau Allen, DT, Wisconsin
158. Dontae Johnson, CB, NC State
159. Marcel Jensen, TE, San Jose State
160. Ron Powell, OLB, FLorida
161. Ryan Carrethers, DT, Arkansas State
162. Max Bullough, ILB, Michigan State
163. Tre Boston, S, North Carolina
164. Prince Shembo, LB, Notre Dame
165. Matt Pachan, OT, Boston College
166. Ethan Westbrooks, DE, West Texas A&M
167. Matt Hazel, WR Coastal Carolina
168. Lorenzo Tallafero RB Coastal Carolina
169. Zach Kerr, DT Delaware
170. Marion Grice, RB, Arizona State
171. Morgan Breslin, OLB, USC
172. Gabe Ikard, C Oklahoma
173. Josh Uraschel, OG, Penn State
174. Shaq Evans, WR, UCLA
175. Jon Dowling, FS Western Kentucky
176. Shaq Barrett, OLB, Colarado State
177. Andrew Jackson, ILB, W.Kentucky
178. Carrington Byndum, CB, Texas
179. Kevin Graf, OT USC
180. Steven Clark, P, Auburn
181. Deion Belue, CB, Alabama
182. DeDe Lattimore, LB, South Florida
183. Jerome Smith, RB, Syracuse
184. Zach Moore, DT Concordia-St. Paul
185. Hakeem Snith, S, Louisville
186. David Fluellen, RB Toledo
187. George Atkinson III, RB, Notre Dame
188. Alex Neutz, WR, Buffalo
189. Bryn Renner, QB, North Carolina
190. Glen Carson, OLB Penn State
191. Matt Hall, OT Bellhaven
192. Jeff Pagan, DT Alabama
193. L?Damian Washington, WR Missouri
194. Tyler Larsen C Utah State
195. Pierre Warren, S Jacksonville State
196. Spencer Shuey, ILB, Clemson
197. Nikoe Whitley, S, Mississippi State
198. Marquis Spruill, ILB, Syracuse
199. Keith Price, QB, Washington
200. C.J. Barnette, SS Ohio State
201. Kevin Danser, OG Stanford
202. Tajh Boyd, QB Clemson
203. Greg Blair, ILB, Cincinnati
204. Roosevelt Nix, ILB, Kent State
205. Deron Furr, SS, Fort Valley State

2k

 

Man!!! I'm so jealous of the Ravens draft.

 

Here is why I am on the sour side of the Dri Archer pick.

He was not BPA on any board but theirs, it's a reach IMFHO.

We are not privileged to the inteview process, he probably blew them away

I don't even think McKinnon would have been value at 97, not in this draft.

We still have an area of depth and age to address, which is why I would say my targets would be 65 72 79 82 I would be okay with any of those players at 116 because it was not a reach. The one positive thing, at least I had him on the board. After the intital shock wore off, I guess if I had him at 88 and he went 97, then I am beating myself up for nothing. Back in 2010 beach had to talk e down off the ledge. I was way off, I mean I got almost nothing right starting with the Pouncey pick.

So if you look at the board, it's no better or worse than the draft sites that devote a lot more time and effort than we do, and they do it for a living. That board had Sia'-Filo as BPA at the start of the night and he went Bang right away. The next palyer on the board went quick too, Rasheed Haggeman. Then when we were up TUitt was at the top.

I see a trend of teams evaluating and reaching for OL help, I feel a lot of these guys are marginal and reaches. The way things went down, teams taking 6th round guards and tackles 3 rounds early, tells me that the trenches are being taken seriously by each team.

With that said if the Steelers take 62 or 70 then I would not put a Glock to my forehead. At least those are Offensive Lineman rated in the 4th round.

Worst draft so far: Giants and Patriots and holy batcrap, it seems like every pick Washington made was a Center, Guard, or Tackle. NFL network cannot slam the teams too bad for stinking up the draft, basically that team is 1/32 of their employer put that in your pipe and smoke it.

I will say though, that trading up for Shamarko Thomas is biting us in the ass like a Great White. Go back to where we should have been picking, and still available were: Donte Mocrief and Phillip Gaines. Gaines is a project, with tremendoud upside, and probably a better peospect than Curtis Brown. Moncreif was treendoud value in the middle of the third, class this missed.

 

Does anyone think the Steelers have helped themselves with this draft ?
I'm ok with the Tuitt, he was like ny said BPA, fills a need and is around where you should
draft a 3-4 DL but IDK... SMH.

 

On the flip side of the coin, they were BOTH raw. We're spoiled in Pittsburgh in the sense that we've become used to WRs coming in and making an impact right away lately. There's speculation that Moncrief may barely see the field this year.

As for Gaines, I know he's popular, but he's raw too, and if a WR wouldn't walk in and compete to start immediately, that goes double for any CB that gets picked.

Dri Archer is my least favorite pick so far, but I still see the rationale behind it. The Steelers clearly don't think much of Reggie Dunn, and Tomlin doesn't like giving a roster spot to a pure kick returner. They're hoping Archer can be a gadget player on offense in addition to being the guy who can finally relieve Brown of his punt-returning duties. If nothing else, this isn't Chris Rainey 2.0 because Archer is better than Rainey was, and few teams in the NFL even have a single guy who can touch his other-worldly speed.

EDIT: Here's what happens when Archer finds a seam on a kick return.

[video]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scMAy5rM3Eo[/video]

 

Very much. Shazier and Tuitt were great picks. It'll take some time for me to warm up to Dri Archer, but I'm hoping he proves his worth anyway.

 

I think the Rams are having one of the best drafts so far......Archer might not help the Steelers get an A+ from Prisco on CBS.....So now I'm really worried!

Edit: GOOOOO PENS!

 

Not until the 5th round, I hope

 

I like 65, 61, 72, 79 in that group
In the other group 76 and 111

And 53 is still lurking out there somewhere...

 

Yes. Not every pick will be great, but Shazier fills a need and is a great athlete with unreal production in a major conference. He is your day 1 starter unless the new guy Moats surprises.

Tuitt is a physical specimen at his size, and with some coaching he can be a high impact player beginning year #2. He may or may not start this year but should see lots of snaps.

Archer? I do like the kid but not this early. Geez, what a reach.

As far as loving Baltimore's draft, they took ILB, DT, and S. They are off by 1 position from what the Steelers did after three rounds, so the hatred you show for Tomlin and Colbert are the only reason you don't like the picks so far. You are really blind to what they are doing just because of your personal feelings about them.

 

Yea they helped themselves ,but to wait 50 picks for a Todd Haley toy that will be in 10 playes again, not value, no way no how. If he returns a few kicks for huge gains or TD's then I'll shut my yapper

 

Yea they helped themselves ,but to wait 50 picks for a Todd Haley toy that will be in 10 playes again, not value, no way no how. If he returns a few kicks for huge gains or TD's then I'll shut my yapper

 

As someone said on here, "It's pretty hard to return kicks now" Most go out of the end zone. They will probably try to use him like Sproles. Theres no physicality there though. I think you try get get better physical players in rounds 1 through 4......

Bites, we talked about inside linebacker being a need and I think we were right?

 

I posted this earlier and 100% believe it, but when players like his step on the field the defense has to think "alert" cause in a blink he culd b gone....therefore that can take the attention off players like Brown, Miller, Moore and Bell. In the return game, he is a threat every time so punters may shank a punt for positive field shape, a player may get out of their lane and allow a huge gap etc. Here's a name Pitt fans will remember that caused headaches.....Eric Metcalf. He was a playmaker and a threat each time he touched the ball and Archer will b that same type of player