ALCS

Discussion in 'Chicago Cubs' started by KB, Oct 11, 2014.

  1. KB Guest

    While watching playoff baseball I noticed one thing.

    The two teams in the ALCS have GM's that I suggested as better choices than Epstein that the fanboys laughed at and blasted me for suggesting.

    But at least the fanboys were right in saying wait till after the third year of this magical rebuilding plan to see competitive, contending baseball.

    Meanwhile the Blue Jays have already made a qualifying offer to Melky and are discussing a multi year contract with him and the Red Sox, who the fanboys have already declared are going to avoid FA and go young are being listed as the favorites to sign James Shield who even the Royals are saying they will make an effort to retain as well.
     
  2. patg006 M.V.P. Bears

    But hey, KB. Russell Martin turned down the Pirates multi year offer!! I'm still monitoring Markakis. Baltimore said it plans to extend Weiters, Hanson, and Hunter. Perhaps Markakis the odd man out?

    One thing I've noticed; clutch hitting. KC can hit with RISP. Baltimore too. .240 hitting Alejandro de Aza moved runners from first and second to second and third, singled, scored, kept Shields/Finnegan honest as a base stealing threat. The Royals have too.

    Consistently I'd like to see men on 2nd and 3rd with nobody out score.......but hey; prospects are the answer, right?
     
  3. KB Guest

    Of course they are.

    Just like our experts proclaiming that strikeouts are just the same as all other outs.
     
  4. SilenceS Guest

    Alcides Escobar- traded for Zack Grienke

    Aoki-Traded for Will Smith

    Lorenzo Cain- Traded for Zack Grienke

    Eric Hosmer- Drafted by Royals. Guy you consistently ripped on and has arguably been the best player for them in this playoffs.

    Billy Butler- Drafted by Royals

    Alex Gordon- Drafted by the Royals

    Salvador Perez- Signed as an amateur FA

    Omar Infante- FA signing

    Mike Moustakas- Drafted by the Royals

    Yordano Ventura- IFA signing

    Man, those prospects turned out to be shit. I mean they hold almost no value. I mean wtf were the Royals thinking trading Grienke for young players? Who the fuck sticks with young hitters when they are struggling? I mean fuck, the Royals homegrown talent is shit. That 2011 Royals top prospects was shit as well
     
  5. KB Guest

    Knew the fanboy would come running with his typical ignorance.

    The Royals made the playoffs this year DESPITE Hosmer and Moustakas being two of the worst positional players in all of baseball and Billy Butler being probably the worst DH in baseball.

    How convenient you left out the biggest move that turned the team around and brought a winning attitude to the team.

    Trading for James Shields and Wade Davis. You know, the trade your ran your mouth about how dumb it was for the Royals.

    Whoops.

    You clearly have no understanding of the Greinke trade at all as usual. The ONLY reason Greinke got traded is because he demanded it. Had he not asked out, he would have never been traded, but since he was traded and the trade has worked out you use your usual revisionist history and run your mouth about a trade that turned out to be an exception to the rule, not the rule itself. WAY more times the team giving up the prospects gets the best of the deal.

    Oh by the way, how long did it take to the franchise to put together this group??

    3 years?

    5 years?

    No??

    29 years???

    Yep.

    Only someone dumb enough to let others do their thinking for one would now hail the only professional team in the four major North American Leagues to not make the playoffs in the last 29 years as the way to run a team.

    Quality knowledge you added.

    By the way, where are the Tampa Rays you were hyping earlier this year?

    Doing exactly what I have been saying they would be doing for the last couple years. Back to mediocrity.

    But then again your baseball knowledge tells you that a strikeout is no different then any other out. You clearly watch no baseball at all and just read prospect sites like they were porn.

    Fortunately I have built back the brain cells I had lost reading your stupidity traveling around the midwest seeing Pearl Jam, but after that monument of stupidity, I think I lost most of them again.
     
  6. SilenceS Guest

    *ROFL* *ROFL* *ROFL* *ROFL* *ROFL*
     
  7. Boobaby1 Guest

    Would those GM's have made the Cubs winners now? :-*
     
  8. KB Guest

    Here are the facts, deal with them.

    Both those GM's are winners now and have had better records the last three years then Epstein on teams with far fewer resources than the Cubs.

    The End.
     
  9. KB Guest

    Glad to see things haven't changed.

    You get dominated with facts and intelligence and all you can do is post some stupid icons like a five year old.
     
  10. patg006 M.V.P. Bears

    No, but I think that's on Ricketts. Its not Theo's fault if Ricketts gives him no money.

    I think Duquette and Moore would be far less pain in the ass 'salesmen.' Which in the grand scheme of things, means what weight we as individuals put into it.

    Too many articles have come out recently where Theo says this team is a contender, which is horseshit. Best case scenario, at least another year, 2015, shuold be the year they get to .500. Maybe they get hot and go a game or two above, maybe cold and a game or two below. Around that area next year is realistic.

    But as we've debated, in order for that to happen significant additions need to be added. Not one, in my count, one TOR starter signed or traded for, a catcher, and an outfielder. If the cubs came away with Markakis, Russell Martin, and Jon Lester I may just spend money to see them next year. Most likely not though.

    It would be the same process with Moore, Friedman, or Duquette here rebuilding, I just think the 3 I have listed here wouldn't have bull-shitted us. Duquette is known for being blunt and honest. Instead of "the goal every year is to win the world series" and "every season is sacred," Duquette would have flat out come out and said "this isn't gonna be pretty, its a rebuild from the ground up. It will be a rough couple of seasons but the end product is what we're going for."

    Like I said, it depends on what you can stomach as a person. I respect a man more for being honest, no matter how blunt or grim it sounds, no matter if its gonna hurt my feelings instead of lying to make me feel better. Give it to me straight. Some fans need to hear that sunshine and rainbows happen every year, and that's okay too; I just think less of those people.
     
  11. SilenceS Guest

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    Your post was literally so wrong I couldnt respond. Its was like an RCub doozy. You come back on here after your "trip" and get owned again in a matter of hours. So, you come back with a completely false post because you have so much bs written on the internet. You can not keep up with what you said or what other people said. So, you over generalize and lump everyone in the same category to try to fit your argument and you wind up looking like the crazy you are. How about you enjoy the Royals run instead of trying to push your agenda to a bunch of people who couldnt give a fuck about your "baseball knowledge". Go back to traveling the midwest or whatever lie you will tell next.
     
  12. SilenceS Guest

    They arent your parents. They have a job to do and they have a job to sell themselves and the team. Its business. The team was .500 since mid May last year. Thats going through the trades and the two long slumps. The Cubs have ton of money they can not pocket anymore. Theo has at least 50 to 60 million to play with and thats on the conservative end. They are getting a new tv contract which will also bring in more money. Theo and them got fucked by the new CBA then Ricketts fucked them because he didnt get his way with the city of Chicago and the rooftop owners.

    Report: Cubs have big bucks available for free agency
    by Marty Gitlin | CBSSports.com

    The Cubs are prepared to go on an offseason spending spree, according to the Boston Herald. They have cleared $41 million from last season's payroll and saved money after failing to sign right-hander Masahiro Tanaka, who opted for the Yankees.

    That could result in a strong run at such premier free agent pitchers as Jon Lester, Max Scherzer or James Shields. Another possibility would be landing southpaw Cole Hamels in a trade.

    Cubs president Theo Epstien, who explained that a potentially lucrative television deal by the end of this year could add money to the coffers, spoke about the new approach.

    "Knowing the money will be there changes the lens in which you view every transaction," he said. "If you know there's an elite payroll coming, even if it doesn't come today, it puts you in an aggressive posture. You can take high-salaried players in trades from other organizations."

    The Cubs would like to supplement a wealth of young talent, especially among their position players, with high-level pitchers.

    It seems like the Cubs are about to get aggressive. Just relax and lets see what unfolds.
     
  13. KB Guest

    Exactly how did I get 'owned'?

    You clearly don't know the first thing about the Royals as I pointed out with facts.

    Guess you 'owned' me the same way you 'owned' me when you stupidly said a strikeout is the same as all other outs?

    Just cause you lead a sad life doesn't mean everyone else is lying when they go out and have fun.
     
  14. KB Guest

    Wow.

    You really are dumb enough to believe everything you read.

    The Cub$ have had the resources to go on a spending spree the last several off seasons as well but didn't.
     
  15. KB Guest

    You just described most of the Cub$ fan base.

    Nothing but fanboys.
     
  16. Not sure where the 50-60 million dollar figures are coming from. Big Marty believes there is 41 million. FuckStein will find a way to blow that on garbage also, if he cannot lure one big fish in. Blunder needs an open checkbook to comfortably operate. He can't function on a budget because he's a fucking retard. We have already seen that in his time here.
    I'm not willing to give the jackoff any more chances. FuckStein needs to be sent packing.
     
  17. patg006 M.V.P. Bears

    Please. The last 3 years they've tried to sell a turd as filet mignon. Anyone with a functioning brain cell knew exactly this team was going to suck regardless.

    I said it depends on what you can stomach. You seem to like the salesman that sells shit as filet mignon because it makes it seem less negative. Again, I'd have more respect for the guy who comes out and says 'its gonna be a shittty couple of years.'

    Yet every season is sacred and the goal every sacred season is to win the World Series........

    I'll believe it when I see it. I will be pleasantly happy if the cubs go on a spending spree.

    I'll believe it when I see it. I don't want to re-hash Tanaka, but the Yankees did it right. They made sure to offer a deal so big nobody could touch it. I'm sure the cubs had genuine interest in Tanaka. I'm also sure they offered a nice little contract to the guy.

    If you asked my opinion, I'm 100% convinced that the Cubs knew he was never going to sign here. And no, it wasn't about the pop star wife of Tanaka that wanted the NYC atmosphere. It was the money. The Yankees came to the table and showed the cubs how its done.

    I'm entering this Winter Meetings/offseason with an open mind. Anything can happen. But in previous trends with this front office, can't believe they're going to spend big on enough to make this team a playoff team. One guy? Yes. Two guys? Okay. Can see it, can also not see it. Three premier free agents? Cant see it.
     
  18. This team needs two of the four pitchers (Max, Cole, John, or James) to even have a shot at getting serious. The big 41-60 million to spend might get you two. I haven't ran the numbers but I believe even spending 60 million still has the Cub$ under a hundred million dollar payroll.

    Pretty sure I do not want a drooling, third world retard managing this team after making an investment in two TOTR starters. Dame pinche tamale por favor y chupa mi pito grande joto.

    [video]http://youtu.be/1Gixge-4lsI[/video]
     
  19. SilenceS Guest

    *ROFL* *ROFL* *ROFL* *ROFL* *ROFL*
     
  20. SilenceS Guest

    They sign Lester and say Madea or Liriano and an OF. This team is competing for a wild card spot.

    Lester
    Arrietta
    Madea/Liriano
    Hendricks
    Wood

    The Cubs are going to hit a ton of homeruns next year. They are also going to strike out a ton. The pitching should give them a chance if they sign these players. Im like you with the wait and see mode but people acting like this team is trending downwards is false. They are def. trending upwards.
     

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