We give up a lot of points, but we make huge plays in between all that....Garrett and Ward are DAWG approved. Those guys are fun to watch.
Too bad Green Bay swiped Reggie White when it was between GB and the Browns for signing him as a FA. What could have been.............
So true.... We've had some good pass rushers since I was a kid. Jerry Sherk, Lyle Alzado, Al Baker, Carl Hairston, Michael Dean Perry, Clay Mathews all come to mind, and I'm probably forgetting a couple others, but none of them really compare to Myles Garrett. I'm sure there are OT's in this league having sleepless nights thinking about trying to protect their QB from #95...
Too bad Erik Armstead decided to stay put in San Francisco. I still think he could have been had for not much more than the Cap Save $$$ from Olivier Vernon. But, then again, he did end up on IR this year. (Niners have been snake bitten this year with injuries)
Your lifetime pretty well coincides with a significant change in NFL defenses. Prior to Daddy Dawg having Thanksgiving dessert with benefits, the premiere defensive players were linebackers (Dick Butkus, Chuck Bednarik, Sam Huff, etc.). The down linemen in front of these guys were more a combination of good players who became one unit (the Fearsome Foursome, the Purple People Eaters, the Steel Curtain, etc.) That said, I've seen a lot of Browns' players over the years, and Myles Garrett is right there at the top.
Wouldn't dream of suggesting Garrett isn't a great player but there are a few things not mentioned: Pass Rush Attempts: 1. Myles Garrett 227 2. J.J. Watt 223 3. Khalil Mack 216 4. Leonard Floyd 205 5. Shaquil Barrett 200 19. T.J. Watt 167 Garrett literally has more attempts than anyone else in football and it explains why Watt is #1 in pass rush efficiency. The Steelers have played one less game than the majority of teams and Watt plays more of a traditional 3-4 OLB role - more coverage responsibility. And yet he still produces. Run Defense Grades: 1. Khalil Mack 89.8 2. T.J. Watt 87.2 3. Cameron Jordan 85.0 4. Nick Bosa 84.3 5. Anthony Nelson 82.4 36. Myles Garrett 67.2 There is more to being an edge defender than rushing the passer. Run defense is 50% of the equation. Watt excels at that too. Gets your defense off the field. Pass Coverage Grades: 1. Melvin Ingram 91.5 2. T.J. Watt 90.3 3. Uchenna Nwosu 78.9 4. Frank Clark 78.4 5. Markus Golden 78.1 58. Myles Garrett 63.2 If I wanted a guy to ONLY rush the passer I'd pick Garrett all day, any day. If I wanted a guy to play OLB and win football games I'd pick T.J. Watt because he does everything at a very high level. Also, career turnovers: T.J. Watt 19 Myles Garrett 9
Fair point, so at time of posting, per game... 1. Garrett 45.4 2. J.J. Watt 44.6 3. Mack 43.2 4. T.J. Watt 41.8 5. Floyd 41.0 6. Barrett 40.0 19. T.J. Watt 167 So he's only rushing four fewer times per game. Not only is the 167 a bit misleading, but based on his total snaps for those four games (212), he's rushing 77.8% of the time. At 45.4 per game for Garrett and 293 snaps (58.6 per game), Garrett's rushing 77.5% of the time. In four games, Watt had: 4.5 sacks, 13 QB hits. In five games, Garrett had 6.0 sacks and 10 QB hits. No argument there. I don't know how they're grading it based on the above, but definitely Garrett's strength is in rushing the passer and not so much in stopping the run. We're in luck... in our defense, I only need a guy to rush the passer. This looks like a combined forced fumble and interception total. If there's one thing I've been told more than anything else in my years of posting, it's that "stats don't matter". Tough to get interceptions as a lineman - you said yourself Watt is asked to cover a lot. Moreover, with a much higher total number of tackles (and being involved in the run game), Watt also has a higher likelihood of forcing fumbles. They gave the graphic at the Colts game and I found this link afterwards: One last note on a "total impact" standpoint. Combine forced fumbles and interceptions, but also add sacks, QB hits, and tackles for loss for each guy through their careers and get a per game average. INT/FF/SK/TFL/QBHITS Watt: 4/15/39/45/84 187 total (52 games) -- 3.6 impacts per game Garrett: 0/9/37.5/36/76 158.5 total (43 games) 3.8 impacts per game
Not sure what happened here. I went to PFF for those stats on Tuesday. Today they are different. Do they re-grade at some point during the week and update? Here is the current numbers (per PFF):
1. Myles Garrett 221 Pass Snaps - 217 Pass Rush - 98.2% 2. Aaron Donald 213 Pass Snaps - 213 Pass Rush - 100.0% 3. J.J. Watt 211 Pass Snaps - 211 Pass Rush - 100.0% 4. Akiem Hicks 200 Pass Snaps - 200 Pass Rush - 100.0% 5. Fletcher Cox 201 Pass Snaps - 199 Pass Rush - 99.0% 37. T.J. Watt 169 pass Snaps - 154 Pass Rush - 91.1% Garrett 36.2 pass rush per game Watt 30.8 pass rusher per game Garrett - 217 rushes - 7 sacks, 6 hits, 34 pressures Watt - 154 rushes - 4 sacks, 9 hits, 27 pressures If Watt had 217 rushes it would extrapolate to 5.6 sacks, 12.7 hits, 38.0 pressures *** TWO TRULY GREAT PLAYERS ***
Texas native Myles Garrett loves being a Cleveland Brown. He is having fun and he's arguably the best pass rusher in the NFL...He's a dawg!
