NFL - Random Opinions

My understanding is that he did a physical and was picking which teams he will share the information with. Not a singular team, but whomever has a realistic opportunity to draft him.

Well, this is a personal preference, but the rest of us can still discuss relevant information. In this particular case, who is going to make something that specific up? No one is saying, cross the guy off the list because your dad doesn't understand the CBA. At the end of the day, the players abilities are what matters. However, if I'm handing the keys over to this guy, I will still evaluate his decision making abilities and this is a life decision he is making to let his dad act as his agent.

His dad won't be allowed to negotiate, talk to teams, or anything else pertaining to a contract. ALL conversations will have to be had with Caleb personally, then he will have to run it by his dad to get his opinion. NFL bylaws state that any "representative" of a player must be certified by the NFLPA. Getting an agent license isn't something you can just sign up for on the internet and negotiate in the NFL. Now, if he really doesn't have the knowledge needed and the NFLPA goes down the path of certifying his dad anyway, that's a path to ruin for sports agents everywhere. I don't think the NFLPA will be that casual in their process.

Regardless, despite what your beliefs are, some of us can still find it relevant for assessment.

Yes, they signed their new deals, but they still took effect after year 5 of their rookie deal and 5th year option where exercised. It was an extension, the new deal didn't start in year 4. IF he proves worthy, he will get the same... if he doesn't he won't. You are ASSuming he will play to the level that dictates he gets an extension. I am saying, based on pre-draft questions, that his expectations are day one he will want a contract extension. One more thing the team might have to deal with down the road, even if his play doesn't dictate that.

Your Example, Baker Mayfield had one injury riddled season that threw his contract extension status off the tracks. He still had his 5th year option exercised, but he isn't getting his first contract until he hits free agency next week... There is no crystal ball to think that couldn't happen to Caleb Williams as well. FOR THE SAME TEAM Justin Fields was drafted #10 overall, yet he isn't getting an extension after 3 years, instead he is getting traded after 3 years. You can bet your ass, any team willing to give up a 2nd or 3rd round draft pick for him is going to pick up that 5th year option, but there is definitely no guarantee they are going to come in and give him a contract extension until he plays year 4 and possibly 5.

There you go thinking again, I've warned you about that...

 

Well happy to clear it up then. He did not take a physical at the combine and won't take one for Chicago until after his pro day March 20th. So we can scratch these two:

"AND, if he releases the records to any teams, it doesn't mean it won't get leaked to other teams. They pay for a lot less important information all the time and it gets out."

"This isn't the Bears doing a physical and leaking results, it's information being released to "certain" teams for the sole purpose of being considered for a job. One he releases it to "certain" entities for that purpose, HIPAA laws are no longer valid."

Remains to be seen if he will agree to take a physical on any other team visits. My guess is no. The Bears are going to draft Caleb.

Never suggested otherwise. Although if it's just made up for clicks - which is very common - it isn't relevant.

This can't be a real question.

You said based on his decision making he could find himself on the outside looking in. So yeah... someone said it.

This is naive. And wrong. Lamar credits his Mom (he hired her to be his manager) with a lot of the ideas that shaped his contract.

This is wrong. Do some research.

I am GUEssing that he will want an extension after Year 3 based on his approach prior to the draft. I don't know anything for sure.

Baker's option was picked up prior to his 4th year on April 23, 2021. After his best season, after the first Browns playoff win in 26 years. The window for his extension was wide open. Allen got his a few months later. The Browns chose not to extend Baker during that window. It had nothing to do with his injuries months later. Whereas, the lack of extension had everything to do with Baker's approach to his 4th season.

Baker had an opportunity to sign his "first contract" a year ago. He was an unrestricted free agent in 2023.

I don't think anyone is giving up a 2nd or 3rd. I'd guess a conditional 5th or 6th. We'll probably find out in the next 72 hours.

Give it a try.

 

Mike McCartney should be in the H.O.F. the way him and cousins continue to squeeze out money is unbelievable.

 

I just read this over at Outkick.com.

Tom Brady; $333M career earnings. ( 23 seasons, 35 playoff wins)

Kirk Cousins; $ 412M career earnings. (16 seasons, one playoff win)

He can't keep getting away with this.
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I have nothing to add to this.

 

He is the NFL all-time Negotiator. He's an excellent thief also.

 

He looks so neighborly. If he looks at you with a smile and promises to play well and win playoff games, your heart melts and you open your wallet.

 

Always promotes himself with pics of his kids (held hostage) too. He's a skilled businessman.

Seriously I think he'll do very well, IF he stays healthy (obviously) and he has a bevy of weapons there too.

Some of the comments he made in Atlanta sorta point to the muti-year deal being the kicker that sent him to Atlanta, he illuded to the fact, Minnesota wasnt offering a multi-year deal, only 1 maybe 2... he also stated the brass in Atlanta were all on the same page, which tells me that wasnt the case in Minnesota.

 

Pretty soon a QB will easily make a billion dollars in his career. Who would have thought that you could make a billion dollars in the NFL on contracts to play alone. ? I know some guys become billionaires from commercial endorsements. But not just for playing.

 

Damn BeachBum swinging a hammer....
And totally nailed the Justin Fields deal

 

It was Snark Week!

 

Random Thought

The current situation we see with the failing of multiple draft selected quarterbacks around the league is directly linked to the lack of patience shown, lack of foundation laid and the inability of front offices to understand both positional importance and the value of structuring around player ability, rather than reverse engineering by trying to find players to jam into a system that they believe the player prototype will fit.

To be sure, there are simply wild fuck ups where evaluators grossly over-estimate the transitional qualities of passers therefore placing a pick value on them that in no way represents their actual potential, but ignoring how badly teams are unprepared to deal with keeping a young player on the sidelines while building a better circumstance for them is willful ignorance.

They rush the player onto the field with a structure around them that severely lowers the odds of success, have no realistic gameplan to protect them and expect the ledger to have more checks in the 'W' column without putting in the damn work to help the player get those wins.

It's the most important position on the field, yet too many franchises are unwilling to make hard, or even intelligent, patient, decisions to ensure success.

 

Absofreekinlutely agree! NFL teams that need a QB (desperately) somehow think there is a plug-n-play system straight out of the NCAA when common sense tells you there is a true maturation process and the current system of said team doing the drafting should realize they have to build the correct scheme, assets, personal and play-book type stuff to get the full effect... and it will always, 99.9% of the time take time. When basing, evaluating QB rankings in college, how in hell does that pertain to the NFL level is a skill few people have, they think if the get the leading prospect their good to go, when the entire environment around then needs to be formed, shaped and ready to take on the new field general. Some QB's have been exceptions to the true reality, but that is a very small percentage. The best thing imo that would work would be making moves around the QB to set up the best enviroment for him to wxcell.

I hope I understood your point, but at the moment, understanding and comprehension is at an all-time low for me, lol.

PS - Its always a huge step to the NFL, I dont give a shit how good you are, its a new world in the NFL.

 

Here's a question... Is Caleb Williams just going straight into the NFL and assuming the QB1 position and being the Bears savior or something? Is he an automatic starting phenom? Maybe Bagent and Rypien have a 3-way competition with Williams? Im curious as to what they plan on doing in Chicago as I havnt quite heard anything on that line. It seems from the out-side looking in, the Bears may baptize Williams in fire if he shows up and does well during the Summer.

 

I would say if they didn’t plan on starting him day one they wouldn’t have traded Fields

 

Especially for a 6th round draft pick. They won’t annoint him publicly, but make no mistake, unless he absolutely cannot pick up the offense in its rarest form, he will be starting day 1.

which is a recipe for disaster… but one the new NFL does way too often.

 

If they kept Fields on the roster they were inviting a QB controversy. He had to go.

 

Fuck controversy, they are professionals. It doesn’t seem to hurt Green Bay. They seem to be the only franchise in the entire league that has it figured out.

 

That’s true. My point was that if there was any chance of any other QB besides Caleb starting the season, they would’ve kept Fields. Rookie is starting day 1, there is no competition for the job

 

My question is this… if these QBs get so Butt hurt, are you all worried about the mass chaos your locker room is getting ready to experience after hiring TWO starters?

Both of these players were supposedly jettisoned because of a combo of money savings and they didn’t want to hurt the locker room. How does taking a guy like Fields, who apparently would hurt the locker room because of competition (which by the way is the furthest from the truth), suddenly help the Steelers, when they already have the presumed starter in Russell Wilson?

Why is it only the incumbent team would be hurt, but when they go to another team, it isn’t an issue.

 

OPINION

I see a massive mess in this banning of the hip-drop tackle.

1st) Are refs going to be able to detect this in real time?

2nd) What if the defender trips, slips, stumbles, but holds on and makes the tackle?

3rd) Is the NFL going to review all the defensive plays that may look like it involved a hip-drop tackle?

Where do you draw the line in allowing a defender to simple tackle someone and when was the last time you witnessed an injury by these sorts of tackles, Im hard-pressed to remember one, but memory isnt my best attribute. It seems as if head-to-head stuff is more dangerous and that caused some issues when a RB would try to get into the end-zone. Why is it the NFL is always picking on the defenders? If you see a freight-train coming, get out of the way or go down.

Is flag football next?