NFL Draft General Discussion

Discussion in 'NFL Draft' started by Campbell, Jan 24, 2019.

  1. IrishDawg42 Legend Manager Browns Buckeyes Fighting Irish

    I used to love running these. Unfortunately I have a business trip to NC in 12 days, which will probably be in the heart of this mock when it gets off the ground. If/when it gets going though, I would be happy to help mod when I’m available. I will be following it closely anyway, so if I don’t have any teams, I can handle trades, etc. without bias.

    Let me know if you all need help.
     
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  2. LAOJoe Assistant Coach Manager Patreon Silver Maple Leafs Eagles

    I invited one guy a few months ago. I don't know if he still wants in though.
     
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  3. Lyman "Franchise Asshole" Browns Buckeyes

    I'll give you a hint , , ,

    Here;s the 1st draft of the cover.
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  4. LAOJoe Assistant Coach Manager Patreon Silver Maple Leafs Eagles

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  5. Campbell Administrator Manager Commissioner

    Got some comp data for quarterbacks.

    Starting with Bryce Young:

    Body Style - Brad Banks (Iowa)
    Playing Style - Sam Bradford (Oklahoma)

    Some people will look at the Bradford comparison and take it as a knock, but that would be bias on their part. In 2008, Sam was in total control in that offense and understood every nuance of how the play would develop from down to down. That may be the single greatest season from any collegiate passer in the history of the game.

    Why does it apply? Bradford read the field well because he understood his offense, made it through progressions easily to limit passes coming in off time, was able to buy time in the pocket and occasionally scramble for yardage, was accurate with an ease in throwing motion, and his arm strength was a touch less than desired.
     
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  6. Campbell Administrator Manager Commissioner

    Anthony Richardson:
    Body Style: Nathan Enderle (Idaho)
    Playing Style: Jordan Jefferson (LSU)



    Will Levis:
    Body Style: T.C. Ostrander (Stanford)
    Playing Style: Jeff George (Illinois)



    Hendon Hooker:
    Body Style: Randall Cunningham (UNLV)
    Playing Style: Steve McNair (Alcorn State)



    CJ Stroud:
    Body Style: John Walsh (BYU)
    Playing Style: J.P. Losman (Tulane)
     
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  7. Torgo M.V.P. Manager Falcons

    Okay, at this point it looks like it's up to me to host the mock draft again this year. I'll start planning it out over the weekend and should post something by Monday evening.

    Just some quick basics: it will be similar to last year. The main two things to know in advance:


    Trades will NOT have to be approved.
    If the Washington Sentinels want to trade Shane Falco and a 2nd round pick to the California Atoms for their place kicker, fine. The way you do it is the GM of the Sentinels would post a message with the details of the trade. The GM of the Atoms would also post or simply quote/reply saying "yep, that's it". As soon as both GMs have posted it, presto, it's done. No need for a moderator.

    Bonus points (and apologies for bringing back the memory) if you already knew the name of the place kicker for the Atoms without looking it up.


    No autopicks. If you're late with your pick, the draft goes on without you. Pop by and post when you can. One BIG change though: last year I held things up until the start of each successive time slot. Not this year... if someone is late, the draft continues as if the pick was made. If the next ten people are standing by and ready to make their picks in rapid fire order in the next five minutes after your time slot officially ends, so be it. (Helpful hint: leave lists with multiple people that you trust if you can.)
     
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  8. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    You got me thinking about Bradford. I dont remember too much about him with Oklahoma, but I enjoyed the film I seen... remember as a Viking also. He seemed very poised, probably due to the familiarity of the offense and the keen sense of where his targets were going or supposed to be. Many snaps he took, he didnt waste too much time... Im thinking he must have had a good OC that built/designed plays that fit Bradfords skill sets.

     
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  9. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    And the Heisman Trophy thing was special too. Once again, he fits the bill of "calm, cool and collected"

     
  10. TopDawg Legend

    ....and fragile.
     
  11. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    Yes, he was.
     
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  12. Torgo M.V.P. Manager Falcons

    OK... I think I have the framework for the mock draft schedule. I'll probably post the initial message starting the thread for it at some point tonight or tomorrow.

    If I remember correctly, RT/Joe's drafts typically ended the day before the real draft began. I'm going with that and working backwards from there. Also, last year we used a 20-minute time slot in round 3. That seemed to work very well. So the big experiment that I'm throwing in this year is to go with 20-minute slots for rounds 1-5 and 15-minute slots (same as last year) for rounds 6-7.

    We'll be able to wrap the whole thing up in a week that way, and we won't have to go 16 hours a day to do it. (I'm tentatively looking at 13 hours for Fri-Sun, 12 hours on two weekdays, and shorter days on the first and last days.)

    Also, last year we kicked off round one in mid-afternoon. I liked how that worked out, so I'm planning on doing that again. (It also helps the rest of the schedule fit together.)


    Key thing is we still need as many participants as we can round up.

    @LAOJoe - will your brothers be able to join us this year? I'll be happy to step aside and let @FalconsGuy take Atlanta again if he can join in.
     
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  13. Campbell Administrator Manager Commissioner

    Just set a start date, grab as many people as you can, and I will fill up all of the remaining spots. I have a large war-board put together that I can break down into multiple teams fairly easily.
     
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  14. IrishDawg42 Legend Manager Browns Buckeyes Fighting Irish

    Genuinely curious on this. I am wondering what you define as style.

    How in the hell do you come up with these, obscure, comparisons? John Walsh? LOL, I won't lie, I had to Google it because I didn't remember who he was.

    I'm not saying you're wrong, I don't even know where to begin to compare him with these two. I am just curious how you get to them over literally thousands of QBs going back to the early 90's, which you are obviously doing.
     
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  15. Campbell Administrator Manager Commissioner

    Mostly has to do with height/weight likeness, then it expands to how they actually look, move and sling it.

    It's easier for some guys than others, but I enjoy going back through the combine list and pairing people up about as close as I can. No two players are going to be identical, and traditional comps bore the shit out of me. lol

    Losman had a natural fluidity in his game when he was still with Tulane. He could move out of the pocket and still hit targets, there's more than one example of him completing passes while being hit, he had the requisite arm strength to deliver all over the field, and he could be a beat behind more than he needed to be. Throw in the idea that he was deceptively elusive in the open field or when tucking it under rolling out and it makes for a fair comp, IMO.
     
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  16. Torgo M.V.P. Manager Falcons


    I had to look up Walsh too. I saw the name and the only thing I could think of was "America's Most Wanted".
     
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  17. gidion72 Legend Steelers

    I remember Steve Walsh and of course Joe Walsh, man life’s been good to me so far, I guess because I’m an ordinary average guy? But I can’t recall this John Walsh character.
     
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  18. Campbell Administrator Manager Commissioner

    Here's a little John Walsh for your enjoyment, gents -

     
  19. Campbell Administrator Manager Commissioner

    And here's a sample of JP Losman getting the shit knocked out of him and still producing against a fast defense -



    The one thing I forgot about JP that sticks out is how much that throw off of one foot while moving backwards still irritates me. lol
     
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  20. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    Do you happen to know the time stamp on that ( shit knocked)? I might just watch the whole damn thing, lol.
     

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