NFL - Random Opinions

I agree that they would be insane not to research the possibility. However, unless they can lowball the fuck out of Philly, they should pass on a reclamation project at a position that has proven to be so extremely elusive to Chicago, IMO.

In one sense, the above would contradict my primary philosophy for ending the quarterback search - Keep drafting/signing even after you think you have it right, every chance you can. But I fully expect the Bears to do what I predicted during their winning ways early in the season and continue to spiral until they are forced to move on from the current coaching staff/GM combo.

As for repairing this current roster rather than going into a full rebuild, I do believe it's a possibility and if they can just sign a guy like Fitzpatrick or Brissett to bridge the first year with a new rookie quarterback, new coaching staff and new offensive philosophy, then they could compete for the NFC North title as early as 2022. The all around roster is solid enough to compete right now, but the coaching is completely inept and neither quarterback is capable of overcoming that deficiency. I'd trade Nick Foles for whatever return I could get post June 1 and just take the loss on that gamble. Just go into the season with either Fitzpatrick on a one year deal or Brisett on the kind of contract that gives him about 3 years worth of high end back-up money with the focus on grooming the new quarterback that the Bears can select with their first pick (likely between 8-12). If you have to trade up to get a targeted player, do it. The new staff should have an opportunity to select their player to build around if they can get him. If not? Be honest with the fans and let them know that the guy you wanted couldn't be had so you're going to do the best with what you have and look to the next off-season to get the face of the franchise.

I think if Jacksonville could get him with their second round pick they should make that move and let him compete with Gardner for the starting gig. They may take a quarterback with their high first round pick, but I could also see a new coaching staff choosing to trade out of that spot for a large haul of picks while going into next season with a combination of Minshew and another vet as competing starters.

Carolina, San Francisco, Detroit and Washington would all be interesting suitors as well.

 

The reason I'd go for Wentz is I don't really think he's a full on reclamation project. I think the fixes for him could be subtle and easy, actually. He has all the tools to be a really good QB....I think a lot of his current issues are above the neck.

I agree they would need to lowball...and the situation the Eagles are in might make that possible.

Making that trade allows you to utilize the draft to fix your offensive line....and it's the kinda trade that might cause Allen Robinson to want to stay in Chicago. The defense is struggling lately but the core is young and Eddie Goldman comes back fresh next season.

Hahahaha....be honest with the fans. You kill me.

 

What about the Patriots for Wentz? Id take him over Cam in a heartbeat, Id take just about anyone that can throw the ball over Cam in a heartbeat.
Id think Philly would want to trade Wentz out of conference if possible.

 

Patrick mahomes is over rated

 

I agree. I mean...what has he done lately?

MVP...Superbowl champ. That's all?

 

He hasn’t got suspended yet. You call that a QB?

 

He's starting to give off those 'J.P. Losman' kind of vapors, where it looks like there is more talent than what their actually is, and above the neck the mental toughness needed simply isn't there.

I agree with the thought process in theory, and if Wentz were to rebound while the Bears followed through with that plan it would probably yield the kind of immediate return on investment that would see Chicago in division contention.

lol

Yeah, I smirk when I type that up, every time I do, but I still think the fans would react positively to a front office that came right out and said "look it, we're not going to be ready to win this season and next year may still have some growing pains, but we're going to rebuild this roster the right way because we want to win a championship.".

 

The NFC East has turned "kinda respectable" in the weirdest way the last couple of weeks.

 

Oddly enough, I think WFT might win out.

 

Honestly. I think they probably lose the next 2 assuming Carolina is healthy. Then my Eagles may get a chance to trade their top 10 pick in the draft to Washington for a first round exit in the playoffs.

 

Watching last nights game was extremely interesting from an evaluation standpoint.

For starters, the injuries over the course of his career have really taken their toll on Marcus Mariota. The legs are still spry, but the throwing motion has developed a wonk and it was easy to identify him as the weakest option at passer on the field last night. The most difficult thing for high draft pick quarterbacks is dealing with the horrible situations that they are usually drafted into (see Joe Burrow) and those circumstances can be absolute career killers.

Derek Carr would make the Bears an instant competitor in the NFC North, but he has to have a strong defense that can give him the confidence to just take what is offered and buffer the occasional mistake. Moving on from the Raiders would be the best career decision he could make and Chicago would be the best possible landing place for him (given a change at head coach, preferably to a defensive mind).

Justin Herbert is going to be a stud. He appears to still be growing into his throwing style at the pro level, and the ball is flinging out of his hands with an unbelievable ease of motion bringing heat and touch as needed. There is some refining to be done, but there is an obvious NFL level talent stepping onto the field for the Chargers on game day. With some time, and some proper coaching, there is no reason that Herbert cannot become a top 5-10 passer in the NFL.

 

I've only had the chance to watch Herbert play twice. I've never played QB nor could I coach one, but . . . even an ex-big ugly like me can tell this kid has stud written all over him.

 

You havnt met me yet either. I have stud written all over me too... wished I hadnt used a Sharpie!!!!

 

Please, dont give them any good idea's.

 

Hebert vs Mahomes for the next decade is going to be fun to watch.

 

I thought the Bears should have offered whatever they could last offseason pre-draft to get Carr.

 

Could Rattler be a #1 pick, from QB U?

 

Thinking about the Eagles situation a little more, and I think it may be worse than what I previously posted...

I went back and watched all of Hurts attempts on the year thus far and there are a few things that stand out to me.

1. He doesn't have the arm strength to make things happen throwing with a consistently positive fashion.
2. His athleticism is not high level enough to be a game changing factor every week.
3. He's a one/two read and run quarterback, similar to a Kordell Stewart type, but he doesn't have the body type or athletic ability to survive in that mold.

This also hurts (no pun intended) the development of first round pick Jalen Reagor, who serves best as an outside speed deep threat. Not being able to deliver the ball with velocity downfield takes away a big part of his game.

Now, add into this situation the fact that Carson Wentz has already made it known, after only one week of being benched, that he has no desire to remain in Philly if he cannon be the starter. That immediately drives down the asking price for Wentz, and even if it brings in a few more teams asking whether or not he's available, there is going to be a lack of leverage on the Eagles part that is going to lower any potential return.

Hurts could go off today and make it so that Doug Pederson can strengthen his case to return as the head coach next season, but I think the more likely scenario is that the Eagles will struggle to close it out while putting enough tape on Jalen to know his ceiling is capped.

Add it all up, and Philly could very well be trading Carson, firing Pederson and bridging with Hurts. It's the type of scenario that could see the Eagles rocket to the bottom of the East for an extended period of time.

 

As a Steeler's fan on the prowl for a Big Ben successor, could Wentz be such a guy?

 

As a Browns fan, I would highly endorse that move.