To this point....it seems pretty clear to me now that Daniels was misdrafted by Pace because he just isn't the style of player that Nagy's scheme demands. 2 years and 2 positions on tape speaks for itself. Putting aside the mental aspects(which I think have troubled Daniels greatly also), he simply isn't athletic or mobile enough to work in this Offense. How this came to be is a very valid question. I thought Pace and Nagy were supposed to be besties perfectly attuned to each others wavelength. For Daniels to be the pick there had to either be a failure in the evaluation process by Pace or a breakdown in communication somewhere between GM & HC.
You can run misdirection from run formations, but its a risky business basing a play's success on a player(LB in this case) not being there anymore cos they've fallen for your trick. This is why it should be used in more of a changeup way, rather than a staple of the scheme. IMO there's a law of diminishing returns with misdirection, which we've arguably seen this year with how Defense's faceoff with Nagy's Offense. The more often you use misdirection the more it shows up on opponents game film of you and the more likely they are to prep for it meaning they're are less likely to be surprised in a game. This is the problem I don't think Nagy absorbs. Teams have been unfooled by his misdirection attempts so often this season that it can, and has, wound up making the Offense and the playcaller look really bad. RPO's and Read Option kinda spring to mind. LB's weren't being moved often enough on RPO's through a combination of knowing going in that Nagy's run/pass ratios were totally skewed, coupled with the fact that the Bears running game was nothing to fear. Part of the reason the running game stunk was on the read option the ball almost always went to the RB so everyone inc the edge contain crashed down, and they knew that cos Trubisky barely ran a keeper for like half the season. So Nagy would motion someone to create "confusion", and we saw with our own eyes that actually led to the guy covering the motion being brought into the play and having an unblocked defender sometimes. The more complicated you make it the more intricate it becomes and the more something can go wrong. How about just keeping it simpler and putting a body on the LB in the first place? The vast majority of the time at least. You can't have misdirection as a base concept in your running scheme imo, because the more you use it the less likely it is to work.
And that's what makes you so great, you don't judge people. You may be a giant homo, but you're also our pal.
Huh, this is what I get for not crunching numbers and taking stuff I read for granted (not that I'm smart enough for that shit anyway, that's what you're for, heh) - I stand corrected. They restructured Long's contract too which saves cap, but somehow has more cap and I don't understand it. Floyd will be on this team next year the way Pace was talking him up for sure. You understand you gave rob the opening on Bridgewater because we have the money to sign him I'd bet, given the numbers you put there. It would be starter money but we're talking to a guy that gave 16m to Glennon for a handful of games. I don't think it happens, I don't necessarily want him, but we can't use the "we can't afford it" argument.
Yes, he is but that's okay Ev, BWW had the chance to be in on the ground floor of our latest venture however he seems to have an aversion towards sheep. Tell me what could be more exciting than watching Mary and a bunch of midgets chasing sheep in a barnyard? Now that's fucking entertainment right there! Sadly he'll never understand it nor will he cash in on it. Makes sense the more you draw from the well the dryer it becomes.
Pace did trade up for him after all. He traded up for Mitch. And Montgomery. Who else am I missing? 50 bucks says he trades up again at some point in the 2020 draft. He may as well mortgage the future since when we miss the playoffs next year he'll likely be on his way out the door with no need for future draft capital. He could leave the Bears worse off than Emery and JA did when they left.
I can’t imagine anyone would take that bet. He trades up every year and he has two seconds. however in the presser he did say this draft had more quantity and less quality or something to that effect.
He also traded up for Eddie Jackson, Anthony Miller and Nick Kwiatkoski. He has also traded down 3 times. With all that, if you look at the picks swapped in all his trades, the only trade Pace made that really mortgaged the future was the one for Mack. If Pace were to be fired after the 2020 season, whomever takes over will get a team much more full of talent than the one Pace inherited. And it’s not close.
As much as I like to argue with Rob, it’s hard to argue this. Being a GM is a tough job, and Pace seems to have a decent batting average so far. Everyone, save for the select few, is looking for a better QB. Everyone has whiffed badly, everyone has made questionable picks. Speaking of that, anyone watching the Bills game? Bad coaching decisions/play calls, inconsistent QB play hamstringing a really good defense... hmmm.. looks familiar.
You risk a lot more by trading up within the first round and the end result is bad when you're moving up to take Floyd and Trubs. Maybe those picks we traded would have been busts with the Bears, maybe not. They were lost opportunities sacrificed to draft players who haven't come close to living up to their draft pick status. But anyway the way Pace has been operating, it wouldn't surprise any of us if the new GM came into the 2021 draft with only 4 or 5 picks to work with. I would consider that mortgaging the future if it happens. Pace inherited a team with a (and I can't believe I'm fucking saying this) better QB than we have now, a better RB than we have now, better WRs (one of whom he promptly traded) than we have now, a better o-line than we have now, a better TE than we have now, a better kicker than we have now... but a far worse defense than we have now. The Bears were more of a dysfunctional mess for sure, but comparing position by position from January 2015 to potentially January 2021 (assuming he is fired then) and the talent level is actually a lot closer than you think. The Trubisky pick is unforgivable and franchise-defining in the worst way possible. His whole tenure will ultimately be defined by that, especially as Watson and Mahomes continue to shine. Great, he drafted E-Jax and Kwit, traded for Mack and signed Hicks, all good moves and the Super Bowl prospects still seem far fucking off because of his Trubs pick.
And just as I post that, I see this on twitter: Not saying Pace makes those picks, but damn he's already mortgaged our past future.
Pace has made some bad moves, no doubt. But I GUARANTEE you, if you go club by club and tear apart every GM’s every move, you’ll see that they all have made some bad, some good. I bet you’ll see lots of parity.
The risk is different with every trade regardless of the round it happened. Pace gave up a 4th round pick to move up for Floyd. Who is a disappointment as an edge rusher but not a bust by any stretch. Who was the better pick? In the second round that same draft Pace added 3 4th round picks by trading down before taking Whitehair. The net result is + 2 4th round picks. How is that mortgaging the future? After wasting 2 3rds and a 4th for Trubs Pace got back 2 4ths and a 6th in exchange for moving down in the second plus a 7th. The 4th round picks were Cohen and Iyiebuniwe. The sixth he used to trade up for Eddie Jackson. You can’t only count the lost picks from moving up without weighing the gains from moving down.
We all agree the draft can be a crapshoot. Yes, every GM has their share of misses. Taking this into account, I'd rather stockpile picks rather than trading them away and giving myself less margin for error with the remaining picks I have left. Furthermore, if I'm going to trade up, I wouldn't do it at the expense of higher value picks (in terms of draft order), which is the opposite of what Pace has done. Yes, he's landed us some quality players throughout the years by trading down in the later rounds, a strategy I wholeheartedly endorse, but the high value trade-up misses have hurt more than the lower round hits have helped.
Yeeeaaaahhhh... so we have to assume that Nagy isn't relinquishing any control or playcalling. Barring any changes to that, 2020 is looking a lot like 2019...
