Ravens 2019 Draft Discussion

size aside, (which Hollywood is only slightly bigger than my 13 year old son..for the reals....LOL) I would say that I am on board 100% (or maybe 99.9% because he is so slight) to let Eric prove it. I will give him the benefit of the doubt and I would say they must be 100000% good on his physical state (given being burned in the past by S. Kindle, for instance...) to draft him as the #1 receiver off the board.

I was looking at the draft chart values and it looks like trading back into even the back of the 2nd round will cost us at least 3 picks if not 4 so it is looking less likely the Ravens will do that (in my opinion). I think DeCosta sits where he is and uses our picks.

 

Thought MAYBE that was what you were getting at. If it was 5 of the next 40 picks, would mean a LOT of trading up for the Ravens.

 

Thought MAYBE that was what you were getting at. If it was 5 of the next 40 picks, would mean a LOT of trading up for the Ravens.

 

RR1, here is how I see it: the Ravens are attempting to emulate the best offense in the league last year and may potentially have the players to do a nice version of it.

The Chiefs were the best and relied on 2 players - a pass catching TE and a tiny but amazing playmaker. Hill and Kelce accounted for over 2800 passing yards for the Chiefs, and the only other player to even crack 500 yards through the air was Sammy Watkins (and barely).

If you look at the Ravens now, they have some pieces in place to look formidable and comparable. I think it's not a stretch to say that the Ravens will bring more juice to the run game than the Chiefs. On the TE front, Andrews was damn good for a rookie, and we have a stable of good TE. It's extremely unfair to put the pressure of 1500 receiving yards on the shoulders of a rookie, but if he flashes anything, then he is going to cause trouble for DC's.

The Chiefs really rolled 2 great offensive players into the best offense and #3 passing offense last year. Yes this has a lot to do with Maholmes as well, so we have to hope that we are seeing improvements from Jackson on the passing side of things.

 

I wholeheartedly disagree. There is no offence that is trying to do what the ravens are trying because no one has anyone like Lamar Jackson, and i dont buy that we are looking at the chiefs at all. Maholmes is very legit but LJ wont be that, while possible, it is highly improbable that he ever ends up anything like a legit pocket passer and he SHOULDNT ever be made to be that.

On the matter of hollywood, i dont get the hype over frame, its so over rated. He gets separation and has good hands, the speed is a bonus and everyone seems to be keying in on that, there is not a SINGLE WR this year that i trust as much as him to actually run a proper route. Also couple him with the ravens O and you are producing a significant issue for any D. Right now, as i have explained before in a long back and forth with tim, A traditional D is already heavily disadvantaged when facing a ravens offence because of the additional factors they have to consistently consider as possibilities given LJ's skill set. But now we add a guy with legit deep threat and the ability for significant YAC, and we just created a nightmare scenario. IF hollywood learns to adjust as jackson scrambles, this is going to be some scary shit. They can NOT ignore Hollywood on the outside or it will be an easy throw and height wont matter because he will be strides ahead.

This was a great pick, and with what we know, it was the right pick- only time will tell if we can say the same in hindsight.

2k

 

Well "Hollywood" has the potential to be a really good WR ala JJ Smith Schuster, or a Desean Jackson but he also has the potential to be another Eric Metcalf, or Tavon Austin or Cordarrelle Patterson.... Time will tell but I think they may have made a big mistake letting Sweat go in this particular spot, since the Redskins immediately traded back into the 1st round to nab him right after our pick.

 

I feel bad for Flacco. He's a great team guy, but he's already looking over his shoulder again.

 

Smart pick by denver, flacco should still end up starting and it will let lock get some experience and time to learn

 

Did he uproot his family of 30 to Denver? It's going to be a short stay.

 

For me, my issue with Hollywood is as previously stated, he's coming off a Lisfranc injury and still isn't healthy from it. I don't doubt his talent, I question his health. Considering next year's WR crop looks to be great, I'd have went a different direction in the first and grabbed a WR in the 3rd

 

If the Ravens want another WR, they will have some options. Harmon, Butler, Arcega-Whiteside, Metcalf, Isabella, Boykin, Ridley, etc. A lot still out there.

For me, to compliment the speed they already drafted, if they go with a Butler or Ridley, it'll make things interesting. With one of them, Snead, and Brown that would be some serious versatility in WRs

 

A lot of WRs have started coming off the board now, but there are still ones you like.

 

I've been a fan of Butler for awhile, but at this point I won't be mad at Harmon or Boykin.

But they Ravens may not even go WR this round

 

This is their time as they have 5 selections in roughly the next 40 picks, so the core of the draft is coming.

 

Looks like the Ravens are getting some sacks!

 

You got Boykin! Definitely a nice draft so far hitting on needs. I'd guess we snag some OL next.

 

Missed the actual picks but loving what I see after checking updates. Boykin has serious athleticism for a guy his size. In another forum, someone reached out to Matt Waldman, who does rookie scouting, about Boykin before the draft and this is the response he gave.

"Compare Boykin and Metcalf’s metrics and it’s clear that Boykin’s athleticism includes fewer limitations than Metcalf’s and has similar high-end upside where Metcalf excelled. Boykin ran a 4.42-second, 40-Yard Dash; a sizzling 4.07-second, 20-Shuttle; a slot-receiver-like 6.77-second, 3-Cone; and outleaped Metcalf by 3 inches when he earned 43.5 inches in the Vertical.
All of that acceleration, quickness, explosion, and leg strength comes in a 6-4, 220-pound frame that is required to run fast, stop fast, and change direction fast before and after catching the football. It makes Boykin a tremendous asset—and a more compelling all-around athlete than Metcalf. ... Boykin’s NFL Combine [should] have completely overshadowed Metcalf’s in the public arena."

Granted it's just one opinion but that has to get you excited.

Love the Ferguson pick too. We needed a bull rusher. He didn't blow up the combine.....but neither did Suggs.

I see a center coming in the 4th. Maybe another pass rusher or ILB also

 

I have a late first round score on Boykin and consider him one of the bigger steals of the draft so far.

 

I think you can look at 2 things for why Metcalf went viral and maybe Boykin didn't see the same rise from his workout numbers. #1 40 #2 photo. The 40 has to be the most over-hyped and over-rated drill, but Metcalf absolutely slayed it. Not that Boykin ran slow by any means, but Metcalf outclassed him there. Couple that with the viral photo, and he became a household sensation.

I think I read somewhere that Boykin had the best 3 cone of all WRs which to me sounds impressive given his size.

 

Best 3 cone, 3rd best shuttle, best vertical, 2nd best broad jump. These are among all WRs.