That's countuing lot of rif-raf passing through. You're talking call-ups that are given a shot in relief, or a low grade prospect that fills in as a reserve.
C'mon - Deion was NFL Defensive Player of the Year THE SAME YEAR he batted .283 for the Braves and Reds - 40 points above Ainge's career average.
i thought he wasn't playing baseball? i already stated on the NFL thread, i think he's a bust. i could be wrong, but throwing it out there right now.
AND in college. AND was all-state in HS in 3 sports. Danny Ainge - greatest HS athlete ever. Not greatest multi-sport athlete ever.
I was a decent athlete in high school. I probably wouldn't have made a team for most colleges in the country. My only shot at a professional athlete career is through Make-a-Wish, and I don't think they do that for people my age. Achieving success in high school is nowhere near as notable as achieving success in the pro's. I'm a musician, and won a State Championship competitively, while in high school. If I showed that ring off to my fellow professional musicians, they would laugh at me. It would be insignificant, and at most be a catalyst for telling old stories about our high school days. It would not be a considerable achievement. I don't understand why comparing a high school career to a pro career is even a discussion.
see i have a problem with that. He was a great HS athlete. How many state titles did he win ? I think 1 or 2 across 3 sports. Hell Allen Iverson won 2 state titles for 2 different sports in the same school year. A ton of guys win multiple state titles. What's better - winning a state title or being an All-American ?
great post d-line. an old ex asshole employee i used to work with was an old guy. his big thing was he bowled a perfect 300 game and wore the 300 ring all the time. total tool. my college roommate bowled 3 300 games and a 890 series twice. he got rings for all of those achievements, so that's 5 rings. i asked him if he ever wore those rings. he said "hell no!" "it's a nice achievement, but something you don't brag about." the old guy wore that ring, so i see your point of NOT wearing a State Championship Music ring.
He's in the discussion, he went straight to Pro in baseball and was national hoops player of the year in college
skinny is not doing that. he's saying if you add Ainge's HS career, and his college career and his pro career - that's one helluva career for 2 sports. the problem is Ainge's college and pro careers are mainly 1 sport- hoops. Yes, he did play pro baseball but only for 2 yrs. He's mainly a hoops guy. Guys like Bo Jackson and Deion Sanders excelled at 2 different sports in college and pro. And if you wanna talk about Ainge being a 3x HS All American, Dave Winfield was DRAFTED in 3 different sports. That's impossible to fathom.
who said that? skinny kept bringing that up bc Ainge was a 3x All-American in 3 different sports, but does that make him the great HS athlete ever ?? No one said to only look at that Axe. Jimmy Clausen won 4 state titles in football and never lost a game. now he's a putz and it was in California's 3rd toughest HS football league and not the toughest wear many top Div 1 athletes in Cali play. Still pretty amazing he never lost a game! the thread was best dual sport athlete, so im looking at all accomplishments to determine a winner Axe?
Being an All-American is an INDIVIDUAL accomplishment - not a team accomplishment. The title of the video in Skinny's original post is "Greatest Multi-Sport Athlete Ever," not "Most Titles Won by a High School Athlete." My discussion with Skinny is that I disagree he was the greatest multi-sport athlete ever. However, I would probably agree he was the greatest HS athlete ever. That means ZERO in this discussion. That's like arguing Jack Nicklaus is the greatest athlete ever because he's won the most major championships. Again, we're talking athletic skill and ability. MULTI sport, not dual sport. And I'm also looking at all accomplishments (whether it's baseball, basketball, football, track, etc) to determine INDIVIDUAL athletic greatness.
I am very proud of the accomplishment, and I / my peers worked very hard for it. But I also recognize, in the context of a profession in that field, it means very little. I am surrounded by people who either achieved the same / similar accomplishments, or who were at least talented enough to do so, if not so talented it was already beneath them at that age.
My argument is that high school accomplishments don't mean nearly as much as those at higher levels. Myself and every other high school stand out surely don't want to hear that, but it's the case.
so Clausen didn't have skill and ability to help his team win 4 state titles and never lose a game? an let me say this Axe--being an All-American, unless it's a singular sport like track and field, swimming or golf, still takes a team effort to be one. Ainge had teammates that made him better. im sure he had a great offensive line to run behind or 4 other solid hoops players. so he got the AA nod, but the TEAM helped along the way, so the Clausen comment is absolutely relevant. 4 State Titles and no losses is nothing to sneeze at vs being a 3x All American in 3 different sports.