Steelers Draft and Mel Kiper sucks thread!!

Discussion in 'Pittsburgh Steelers' started by Steelroc74, Mar 24, 2013.

  1. nybites M.V.P. Steelers UCONN

    Lance Zierline was on NFL network last night, his mock has the Steelers moving back to 26 and the Rams moving up to get Jahade Barron. What will drive me nuts is what was the other pick, we know it was 26, did they get a third rounder? Rams have two 3rd round picks, 90, 101. Steelers pick 21 is worth 800 points, Rams Pick 26 is worth 700 points., Pick 90 is worth 140 points, pick 101 is worth 96 points,. If it is pick 101, not sure it is worth it, you want to come out on the plus side of a trade, not a dead even one. Rams also have 4 6th round picks, in parenthesis is there point value. 190(15), 195(13) 201(10.6) 202 (10.2). Steelers have a pretty big gap between 185 and 229, would be smart to fill that in with a pick, If they got the 190 pick, it is the best for more than just value. It also jumps in front of Cleveland who has picks 192,200. Notice the trade with the Rams still keeps Pittsburgh ahead of Baltimore. When making trades you always have this strategy of who picks right before me or right after me. In this scenario Zierline puts Steelers 1 pick ahead of Baltimore and still gets Derrick Harmon. When I do simulators I almost always trade to an NFC and if it is AFC I avoid CLE CIN BAL Continuing on the theme, at pick 101 this is where I think Pittsburgh could land their choice of RB, end of round 3 before the board gets wiped clean in round 4, and taking a consolation prize at 123. At 123 there are 3-4 OT's that grade out from 129-184, and I am sure they have their eye on which one is their choice to be a swing OT, which right now is a hole on the roster. What say you guys on this? I did ask Lance on X, what the exact trade was, maybe he answers.
     
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  2. nybites M.V.P. Steelers UCONN

  3. nybites M.V.P. Steelers UCONN

    Traded back, think I covered everything but QB. I know we got a thin room, but I still think they are signing another QB before the draft. I was not going to take WR, but Bech was just too good to pass on. I could have argued for Wyatt Millum or Darien Porter. Still think I did ok.
     
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  5. nybites M.V.P. Steelers UCONN

    Could not pass up Will Johnson at 21.
    Traded back from 83 to 84 Still got a stud in Alfred Collins and added 121. At 121 could not pass on Dylan Sampson. Like it or not QB is a need, McCord at 185 was an easy pick to make. At 229, I thought about Hunter Wohler, because I am very high on him over the national sites, but I took Kaiden Prather a 6-4 WR with some speed (4.4) out of Maryland. Jarred Ivey I took over 3 good swing tackles, maybe I was lucky Cornelius was still there at 156. In between 123 and 156 3 of my 4 targets got snapped up. Jalen Rivers, Jalen Travis, and Logan Brown. Again passing on Chase Lundt, he's a guard. I still could have gotten Tyler Barron as and edge rusher and taken Jalen Rivers instead of Ivey. It's a good exercise because I learn something every time I run a simulator.
     
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  6. nybites M.V.P. Steelers UCONN

    Good article on Steel City Insider, breaking down the DL class and fits for Pittsburgh. They have Grant ahead of Harmon but both in the same range.
    If you follow Jim Wexell on X, he posted the link. I am trying my best not to fuck Tim over with hyperlinks and screw up his bandwith? Dunno man, I am not an IT guy, but I know it messes with this site and I try to comply.

    So I gave you guys two mocks today, I would appreciate some feedback, improvement is always my goal, and I can take constructive criticism from anyone expect 1 poster who shows up on draft day and acts like an ass. I have not blocked anyone in years, yet you earned that distinction.



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  7. nybites M.V.P. Steelers UCONN

    See below, I did a simulator on Draft Buzz. Not bad IMHFO. So that is 3 simulators run, 3 sites that have rankings that are different. When I want to use a reference, not the bible but I stick to NFL dot com and read the profiles/

    Any thoughts as to where I could improve, or something I missed. Positive Feedback welcomed.

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  8. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    I like it a lot. Especially the QB pick in the 5th. I like the first 2 picks, granted Im a fan of both.
     
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  9. nybites M.V.P. Steelers UCONN

    PICK: 21 RND: 1 (PIT)
    Kenneth Grant
    DT Michigan
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    PICK: 83 RND: 3 (PIT)
    Charles Grant
    OT William & Mary
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    PICK: 123 RND: 4 (PIT)
    Bhayshul Tuten
    RB Virginia Tech
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    PICK: 156 RND: 5 (PIT)
    Tyler Shough
    QB Louisville
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    PICK: 185 RND: 6 (PIT)
    Vernon Broughton
    DL Texas
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    PICK: 229 RND: 7 (PIT)
    R.J. Mickens
    S Clemson
     
  10. nybites M.V.P. Steelers UCONN

  11. nybites M.V.P. Steelers UCONN

    4 simulators today, raining outside, bored. Pick 229 is a new one, KLS is also the nephew of Kam Chancellor, so there is lineage there, always a good thing. The draft buzz mock is registered under Live4sports, this site has given us so much, maybe someone will see it and sign up.

    I remember when steelers=sb was a 15 year old high school kid, now he's in his 30's with kids. I did meet him at a game once, pretty down to Earth Dude. Met Pumpkin, burghball, DCSteelerfan as well over the years. Looking forward to next year and meeting more posters in person. My wife is funny, she said what if they are an axe murderer? I said, highly doubtful that 2 axe murderers happen to be in the same car at the same time.
     
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  12. nybites M.V.P. Steelers UCONN

    Reading on a new site, paid for because I seek information. Some tidbits from Pro Days.

    Cam Skatebo is slooooooooooww 4.65, tough guy yes, but will his bull in a China Shop work at the next Level.
    KeAndre Lambert-Smith did improve some of his numbers, late rounds, you need a WR with upside, this could be your guy.
    Jalen Milroe as expected ran a 4.4, playmaker, but his inconsistency and throws showed up in Tuscaloosa.
    Fentrell Cypress had a really good pro day, most impressive was his 6.84 3 cone.
    Mike Green had a 6.85 three cone, astonishing for a 250 lb. Edge rusher. Add in a 4.25 short shuttle, solidifies him as a round 1 prospect.
     

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