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Discussion in 'NFL General Discussion' started by Willie, Nov 19, 2015.

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MVP race - Josh Allen or Saquon Barkley

Poll closed Dec 19, 2024.
  1. Josh Allen

    9 vote(s)
    75.0%
  2. Saquon Barkley

    2 vote(s)
    16.7%
  3. OTHER - make a case

    1 vote(s)
    8.3%
  1. EvertonBears M.V.P. Bears

    My view of Darnold hasn't changed dramatically tbh Will, its not too hard to figure out imo. Darnold is not as great as plenty of this season's game specific numbers suggested(1 game i described as one of the least impressive 100+ passer ratings id ever seen), but he's not as bad as this last game suggests either. Its in between them. I think he took a legit step forward this year and showed you can win with him.... in the right Offense.

    A much bigger question is could you win it all with him and i have serious doubts about that in today's league. I see so much later years Geno in Darnold(thats a neutral statement). Personally i have Purdy in this kind of category, allbeit superior to both, and he couldn't win a SB even on a better roster than both those two.

    It is a very tricky situation the Vikes GM finds himself in. It must be hard to look at the Falcons handing over the reins(pretty successfully) to Pennix and not wonder what if.....
     
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  2. EvertonBears M.V.P. Bears

    How about an improper answer heh? You must've seen enough ball to give a broad stroke. We're not talking a '24 rookie class here are we. I mean will there even be 3 QBs in the 1st round? That alone speaks to the supply demand side of things which has implications for say a Darnold.
     
  3. Campbell Administrator Manager Commissioner

    I've been on a 7 day a week work schedule since the middle of summer, so I just haven't had the time to look at much college ball.

    I'm just sitting on the phone now waiting for my morning appointment to show up so I can get my day started...
     
  4. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    And that, in my opinion is the tricky part. Its hard to set the standard or even have a legitimate 'gauge' when so many other variables are in play. You mentioned the o-line ineptitude... there's that, and the lack of a run-game was also a contributing factor. Aaron Jones was it, Ekler and Chandler were AWOL. So, its not all on Darnold, which would be a very different story if the Vikings had a highly graded o-line, then you might be able to point a finger or two at the QB.

    Personally, Darnold exceeded my expectations when you look at the 'whole picture', he won 14 games, when before the season a lot of people were thinking 6 to 8. Winning the 1 score close ones or just winning 'ugly' would have worked for me, but the last 2 games tainted the 'over-all pic' in a lot of minds and that maybe an unfair assessment.

    Anyway, I enjoyed the ride till it got derailed. Now we start over and have high-hopes next Spring (like always for me).
     
  5. Shockers Starter Vikings

    Me too always have the high hopes
     
  6. Shockers Starter Vikings

    The Vikings better not tag Sam Darnold he reminds me of Capt Kirk it just time to move on and do some SERIOUS work on the O-line will JJ McCarthy be bust don't know all i do know it's time to move on
     

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