Im not a gambler, but I would ASSume their must be a huge fortune to be had on the betting lines for this top-10 draft stuff.
It would be similar to what we put together in the mock, only you would likely get less in return (lower this year combined with next year, possibly conditional).
I think they prefer Nabers skill set but I think they lean Odunze. Odunze is a clean route runner, a massive target, and, it seems at least, is as clean as they come from a character perspective. That last one matters to John Mara and I think after investing so much in OBJ only to trade him away because he was a "diva" they would lean towards the safer human in this scenario. Also if you are really rolling with Jones or Lock... Get the guy with the bigger catch radius who is open even if he's covered. Jones can underthrow Slaton and Hyatt on deep passes if that's what you want to see instead of Nabers setting up camp waiting for the ball to arrive.
This scenario imo is really feasible if the Giants are already set on Jones at QB and just think he needs weapons. This years draft is very interesting and Im not going to miss the show. Always has been hyped in years past, but this one has a certain special element to it.
I don't see it. I have my preference ranked as follows: 1) leave the draft with Maye (whatever that looks like) 2) JJ McCarthy without having to trade up 3) Trade to 4 and get McCarthy 4) Trade back and accumulate draft picks instead of taking a WR 5) Stay at 6 and draft a WR These guys are blue chip level WR's. But your WR is only going as far as Jones or Lock or whatever QB hell free agent they can find is going to take them. Fix the QB position or position yourself to fix more of the roster / fix the QB position next year. I actually HATE the idea of passing on a blue chip player at a high value position. But I like the Giants WR room a lot more then the average person and Daboll has had 0 issues scheming these players open -- only for them to not get the ball on time and on target.
The snag with this is the Cardinals have to believe any trade down costs them MHJ. That is one hell of a player to move off. I flat out dont believe he gets past the Chargers at #5, given their WR situation they'd run that pick in. So what do you have the Giants paying to move up 2 spots in this hypothetical? Or more accurately, what does it take to get the Cardinals off that pick? Value chart says Giants 3rd rounder is plenty but that simply aint happening. #47 represents a big overpay according to the chart, but again, the chart has never felt less relevant. This is about how you get a team with a big need at WR off a potentially generational WR who wont be there, wherever they trade down to. I wouldn't do it, even for that 2nd rounder. The Cardinals have a load of picks this draft, but they also have nothing at WR, they'll be drafting 2 for sure imo. I'll be amazed if MHJ isnt the first. You mentioned Maye there also. Would you agree of the top4 QBs he's the one who would most benefit from sitting a year? IMLO a team that already has someone who can start this year would be a great spot for Maye. The Falcons are sure out this convo now, and i don't see a team like the Jets doing something big. The Giants make a ton of sense in this regard. Maye's hype feels to have been pretty suppressed this whole process for whatever reason. It wouldn't shock me at all if the Giants were able to stand pat and still get to draft Maye.
Per; PFT/FanDual - FWIW... The odds, they are a-changin’. Two days ago, LSU quarterback Jayden Daniels had emerged as the clear favorite over North Carolina quarterback Drake Maye to be the second overall pick in the 2024 draft, -275 to +215. Now, DraftKings has both at -115. At FanDuel, Daniels was at -250 and Maye was at +185. Now, they’re both -110. The development comes after the Commanders brought Daniels, Maye, J.J. McCarthy, and Michael Penix Jr. in for a visit on the same day. Daniels’s agent reacted on X, and word is now spreading that perhaps Daniels doesn’t want to go to the Commanders. The odds reflect the possibility that the Commanders will take Maye at No. 2 or trade out of the spot to a team that would take Daniels in that spot. Look for more movement as bettors place action based on their best guesses as to what will happen. For now, and as the odds suggest, it’s anybody’s guess as to who will go second. _______ ________________ The Vikings head-honchos went down South yesterday and had dinner with Daniels, which has led to some speculation of course. IF the Vikings can trade way up with the Commanders with it not involving Justin Jefferson, Id be very well pleased (who wouldnt) if the Vikings could snag Daniels.
@Willie Interestingly I am hearing from Giants beats writers that the Vikings have the parameters of their potential trade ups already worked out with teams and the Giants are finalizing their board today and are working on trade scenarios once that is done. The last few days reading between the lines and after the GM spoke is leading me to think the Giants are now resigned to the fact that they do not believe they can go up and get the guy they want at QB. So it seems like the "expectation setting" rumors are starting to leak out.
Yes, Its very interesting. There's even rumors that have the Vikings dealing with the Commanders to see if they can snag Daniels (much to my delight). Reading between the lines, the Giants IMO may just go WR, which could be a great player, but also means Jones will be QB1 for now, but this still leaves the door open for a latter QB pick for the Giants. The rumors are flying off the press non-stop now and those bastards are getting me excited with some of the latest stuff out there. I gotta cool my jets, because as a fan of the Vikings I should know better to get so wound up. PS- Giants standing pat may land them solid possibilities at QB IF they change their mind when and if a QB might just be sitting there.
I think both McCarthy and Maye have to sit for a year, because both have a lot of aspects they will need to upgrade/correct at the next level. They are very different in needs for correction, but both should sit, IMO. The Chargers are going to move down if one of those 4 quarterbacks slides to 5, because the Vikings are going to make the kind of offer that will set Jim up for this draft and the next. There are rumors circling that Michael Thomas will be signing with the Chargers. I don't think Harbaugh sees WR as a huge need at the top of the draft. They will come away with one, maybe two (with a late addition), but this class is deep enough that he can wait until the second or third round to pull the trigger. I agree, which is why the idea that they are extremely interested in Dallas Turner makes that trade down something to monitor. If they would be comfortable with drafting either Harrison or Turner with that pick, moving down and collecting something in this draft that they can use to turn around and bounce back up into the top 16 with is something they are definitely going to entertain. If I'm the GM of the Cardinals, I'm with you. I draft Harrison and look to add to the interior offensive line with that later pick, then look for needed pieces on defense and another RB later in the draft. I'm running the Cardinals in the mock, and I was able to move down, draft Turner and trade that later pick for Aiyuk. Basically, I added a clear #1 receiver and the best pass rusher in this class. That definitely works, which is why I would really enjoy reading a report the day before the draft that Tee Higgins has been traded to Arizona for that 27th pick. It would blow up a lot of people's boards at the top of the draft, including mine. One scenario that I have here that I've worked out would have the top of the draft going like this: CHI - Caleb Williams WAS - Jayden Daniels NE - Drake Maye NYG - JJ McCarthy (Trade with ARI) ATL - Dallas Turner (Trade with LAC) ARI - Marvin Harrison Jr. (Trade with NYG) This would have the Cardinals in the situation of choosing either of their top targets while adding draft capital for this season to move up from 27, and likely an additional second in 2025. It all depends on how they value those two players and if they are equal on their board.
An interesting scenario. 4 QBs and a defensive player going in the first 8picks would be massively helpful to the Bears, one way or the other. Trading for Aiyuk is a very good idea that makes sense on many levels for the Cardinals, tho im slightly sceptical he would really be traded to a div rival. It would be a bitter pill for the 49ers to swallow tho. He maybe doesnt get the spotlight that some team mates get, but Aiyuk would leave a big hole on that Offense. He's the primary intermediate/deep target and us such does a lot to keep D's from clamping down on the short passing/YAC game the 9ers like to employ. People talk about Deebo plenty, but Aiyuk had 450 more receiving yards than him last season. Thats a lot, he put up major numbers. Purdy obvs proved a lot of people very wrong last season, but he would really suffer from a big drop off in production on the outside. It may seem smart on the surface to trade Aiyuk now for a 1st round pick and save a big contract, and i get the logic. But other than Deebo(who is a non-traditional WR) there is nothing on that team at WR outside of Aiyuk, so yeah 1st rounder great, but they're gonna be immediately dropping a draft pick on a replacement i expect. The later you wait to pull the trigger on that in the draft the longer the potential dev time for the player while you're trying to win a SB during a QB rookie contract. But its something the 9ers are gonna find a lot arent they. When you're a non-QB focused top team then the more plates you have to try and keep spinning on your own roster.
No, I can’t see it happening either. That’s why the potential trade of Tee Higgins is interesting to me for the Cards. If the potential to move Aiyuk is real, then San Fran must be of the mindset that receivers are interchangeable enough in that system to let one of the best route runners in the league walk. That’s not something I can agree with. There may be an issue they are looking at with accounting that makes moving Brandon now preferable, but weakening the roster is going to be extremely costly, and I agree that it would/should force them to go after WR quickly in this draft.
One thing is certain, the 49ers made this bed they are sleeping in with the mega-deals for Deebo and Bosa... Aiyuk may want a slice of that pie, at least top WR money. If and thats a big If, the 9ers are contemplating trading Aiyuk, it will more than likely happen during the draft, but letting him walk imo is a huge mistake, Purdy would agree. Like Tim said, if he's traded they'd have to land a WR in the draft whos ready to go asap and picking 30th is a bridge that might be costly to handle also... Aiyuk would probably draw a high ranked 1st tho, but what kind of money is he demanding will be a huge factor and so far Im not sure what Aiyuk is thinking.
I think the Eagles stay put and draft Cooper DeJean. Remember who their DC is. Fangio and DeJean is a match made in football heaven. As a Jets fan, I hope Joe Douglas is blowing smoke up everyone's arse. My guys are telling me it's Odunze or trade out. And they are not really interested in a 1st rd OT. He said they said "they are set at the position". If so, that means Bakhtari probably going to come in to back up the 2 starters. There is little to no depth so a an OT is coming later in the draft.
Maybe but the Eagles aren't going to be drafting anyone for the sake of any of the coordinators. What I do know is that if the Eagles don't go Corner, OL or EDGE I will be shocked.
Steeler Depot has an article about the Steelers trading up to get Quinton Mitchell at pick 12 and you got them passing him up at 20.
A good read. Interesting to compare it to the collaborative mock draft i took part in last week. You have mirrored a lot of things that went on around the teams i had. Nabers falling to #9, the Bears & Colts making a trade with the Colts taking Nabers there. The position group the Bears went on to target at #15. We didnt pick the exact same player, but as i said to LAJoe at the time, i had it as a coin flip between Verse & Latu and if it was done again i was just as likely to pick Latu second time around. Also you have the Seahawks taking the exact same player i did take at #16. I never have the knowledge base to stretch into those later rounds, but that makes me pretty pleased with how i did in Round 1 heh.
I mentioned a while back that the odds of a receiver falling into that #9 are probably a lot higher than what people believe. It’s simply a numbers game with various needs pushing one down the board. There is some rumor that the Colts are looking to move ahead of the Jets to select Bowers, but with Nabers still on the board I can’t get around someone moving up to get him. I like the idea of offensive line for Seattle, but the Seahawks could be the high water mark for Murphy, and I get the feeling that because of his position and reports I’ve gleaned regarding his value with GMs that he will probably be a higher pick than what has come to be expected.
There is a lot linking Mims to PIT, so if I were to guess on a move up for the Steelers, it would be reasonable and he would be the target.
