RULES FOR DRAFT VALUE CHALLENGE IMPORTANT PLEASE PM ENTRIES TO @RTTRUTH WITH THE CHALLENGE IN THE TITLE OR POST THEM HERE IF YOU DON'T CARE FOR SECRECY. YOU HAVE UNTIL ONE HOUR BEFORE THE DRAFT TO SUBMIT YOUR PICKS. We use the results of the Collaborative Mock Draft as the starting point. The entire mock is here: 2023 Collaborative Mock Draft We each choose players we think would be taken earlier, later or around the same spot in the real draft compared to our "official" mock. You get points depending on what happens. We each pick 2 players per round who we think will get drafted higher and 2 we think would get drafted lower. We also choose 1 guy per round we think is closest to their exact spot. We also predict 2 UDFAs who were picked that would actually get drafted and 2 guys entirely not selected. EXAMPLE of Picks at the bottom. The nature of the scoring could see the winner emerge with a negative score. The extreme values are almost impossible to get but they can make or break you. A full round means the same spot or greater in the next/previous round and NOT necessarily 32 picks. Risers/Fallers >6-7 Full Rounds= 60 points Faller/70 Riser >5-6 Full Rounds= 50 points Faller/60 Riser >4-5 Full Rounds= 40 points Faller/50 Riser >3-4 Full Rounds= 30 points Faller/40 Riser >2-3 Full Rounds= 20 points Faller/30 Riser >1- 2 Full Rounds= 10 points Faller/20 Riser 17-Full Round= 8 points Faller/10 Riser 11-16= 6 points 6-10= 3 points 1-5= 1 point 0=0 points If your faller pick is actually a riser you: lose 5 points +1 points for every spot. Maximum of -35 points. If your riser pick is actually a faller you: lose 5 points +1 point for every spot. If he goes undrafted you lose an extra 10. Maximum of -35 points; -40 if undrafted. Extra Rule: Mispicking an undrafted player from this mock to be drafted will give you -15. Extra Rule: Correctly picking an undrafted player from this mock to be drafted gives you 10 points per round. Closest to actual pick margin of error: 0= 50 points (30 points in Round 1) +/-1= 30 Points (25 points in Round 1, 40 points in Rounds 4+) +/-2= 20 points (25 points Rounds 4+) +/-3= 15 points (20 points Rounds 4+) +/-4= 10 points (15 points Rounds 4+) +/-5= 7 points (12 points Rounds 4+) +/-6= 5 points (10 points Rounds 4+) +/-7= 3 points (9 points Rounds 4+) +/-8= 1 points (8 points Rounds 4+) +/-9= 0points (7 points Rounds 4+) +/-10= -1 points (6 points Rounds 4+) +/-11= -2 points (5 points Rounds 4+) +/-12= -3 points (4 points Rounds 4+) +/-13= -4 points (3 points Rounds 4+) +/-14= -5 points (2 points Rounds 4+) +/-15= -6 points (1 points Rounds 4+) +/-16= -7 points (0 points Rounds 4+) +/-(17-one full round)= -10 points +/-Between >1-2 full rounds= -15 points +/->2-3 full rounds= -25 points +/->3+ full rounds= -35 points 1st-3rd Round undrafted = -50 points 4th Round undrafted= -40 points 5th round undrafted= -30 points 6th round undrafted= -20 points 7th round undrafted= -10 points ALSO in the 7th round you can only lose a maximum of 10 points if your guy is drafted AFTER his prediction. You can still lose more if he gets drafted earlier. EXTRA: A correctly undrafted guy gives you 20 points. If you guess wrong you lose 20 points. EXTRA: YOU CANNOT PICK THE FIRST PLAYER DRAFTED (Bryce) FOR THE EXACT SPOT!! HERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF PICKS USING THE MOCK RESULTS FROM 5 YEARS AGO (7TH ANNUAL). NOTE THAT THE PICK POSITIONS ARE WHERE WE MOCKED THEM. Drafted Higher: 1(9) Joey Bosa 1(29) Ryan Kelly 2(6) Robert Nkemdiche 2(21) Hunter Henry 3(18) Deion Jones 3(30) Sean Davis 4(7) Bronson Kaufusi 4(29) James Bradberry 5(1) Kevin Byard 5(11) Nick Kwiatkowski 6(28) Jacoby Brissett 6(29) Parker Ehinger 7(7) Glenn Gronkowski 7(2) Tajae Sharpe UDFA. DT Vincent Valentine UDFA. CB Brandon Williams Completely Ignored. WR Tyreek Hill Completely Ignored. P Drew Kaser Drafted Lower: 1(13) Reggie Ragland 1(31) Noah Spence 2(11) Cody Whitehair 2(13) Kendall Fuller 3(12) Jerald Hawkins 3(21) Charone Peake 4(20) Alex McAllister 4(35) Sebastian Tretola 5(6) D.J. White 5(29) Will Monday 6(20) Michael Jordan 6(21) Joel Heath 7(13) Mike Matthews 7(19) Tre Madden Drafted Correctly: 1(23) Josh Doctson 2(16) Chris Jones 3(10) Pharoh Cooper 4(36) Joe Schobert 5(8) Matt Ioannidis 6(16) Keith Marshall 7(11) Brandon Allen UDFA. De'Runnya Wilson (i.e. selected as an UDFA here and correctly predicted not drafted.) We hope all of you mock GM's participate. Anyone is welcome. It's fun to see how things end up. Any remaining questions, just PM RTTRUTH or LAOJoe for answers. You can copy paste this and use it as your starting point Drafted Higher: 1() 1() 2() 2() 3() 3() 4() 4() 5() 5() 6() 6() 7() 7() UDFA. UDFA. Completely Ignored. Completely Ignored. Drafted Lower: 1() 1() 2() 2() 3() 3() 4() 4() 5() 5() 6() 6() 7() 7() Drafted Correctly: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 UDFA
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Drafted Higher: 1() 12 Devon Witherspoon 1(16) Will Levis 2() 10Dawand Jones 2() 26 K Ringo 3() 5 Trenton Simpson 3() 16MMims 4() 8QuanMartin 4() 13Roschon 5() 5 Isaiah McGuire 5() 17 Cory Trice 6() 1ChristopherSmith 6() 17 Jakorian Bennett 7() 4 Warren McClendon 7() 24 Carter Warren UDFA. Mekhi Blackmon UDFA. Ilm Manning Completely Ignored. Rakim Jarrett WR Completely Ignored. John Ojukwu OT Drafted Lower: 1() 2Anthony Richardson 1() 19 Will McDonald 2() 13 Tyler Steen 2() 27Spears 3() 15 Gervon Dexter 3() 25 Riley Moss 4() 7 Brenton Strange 4() 32 Kenny McIntosh 5() 15 Adonis Boone 5() 29DDavis 6() 14JWitt 6() 15Korsak 7() 9Whiteheart 7() 14DesjuanJohnson Drafted Correctly: 1 Paris Johnson 2 John Michael-Schmitz 3 Matthew Bergeron 4 4Oluwatimi 5 1ZachKuntz 6 7 Aidan O'Connell 7 20 Kei'Trel Clark UDFA Lindsey Scott Jr
Drafted Higher: 1(16) Will Levis 1(25) Bijan Robinson 2(17) Jahmyr Gibbs 2(28) Drew Sanders 3(3) Matthew Bergeron 3(31) JL Skinner 4(17) Darius Rush 4(28) Zach Evans 5(14) Jammie Robinson 5(16) Dorian Thompson-Robinson 6(8) Brodric Martin 6(35) Ronnie Hickman 7(31) Cameron Latu 7(40) Nick Broeker UDFA. Mekhi Blackmon UDFA. Demario Douglas Completely Ignored. Rakim Jarrett Completely Ignored. Tiyon Evans Drafted Lower: 1(7) Joey Porter Jr 1(19) Will McDonald IV 2(3) Steve Avila 2(27) Tyjae Spears 3(7) Jordan Battle 3(39) Tank Bigsby 4(6) Andrei Iosivas 4(33) Jake Moody 5(15) Adonis Boone 5(26) Cameron Young 6(3) Cory Durden 6(15) Adam Korsak 7(5) Nesta Jade Silvera 7(8) Quindell Johnson Drafted Correctly: 1(6) Tyree Wilson 2(23) Devon Achane 3(10) Tyler Scott 4(20) Noah Sewell 5(13) Moro Ojomo 6(37) Darrell Luter Jr. 7(9) Blake Whiteheart UDFA Lindsey Scott Jr.
Drafted Higher: 1(16) Will Levis 1(25) Bijan Robinson 2(28) Drew Sanders 2(26) Kelee Ringo 3(14) DJ Turner 3(34) Tuli Tuipulotu 4(25) Anthony Johnson Jr. 4(28) Zach Evans 5(22) Israel Abanikanda 5(42) Mekhi Garner 6(40) T.J. Bass 6(34) Jaren Hall 7(31) Cameron Latu 7(33) Bryce Barringer UDFA. Dee Winters UDFA. Mohamoud Diabate Completely Ignored. Jahleel Billingsley Completely Ignored. Rakim Jarrett Drafted Lower: 1(19) Will McDonald IV 1(29) Mazi Smith 2(13) Tyler Steen 2(4) Emmanuel Forbes 3(22) Trey Palmer 3(18) Sam LaPorta 4(6) Andrei Iosivas 4(33) Jake Moody 5(16) Dorian Thompson-Robinson 5(21) Dontayvion Wicks 6(2) Jake Haener 6(5) Carrington Valentine 7(2) Max Duggan 7(9) Blake Whiteheart Drafted Correctly: 1 Peter Skoronski 2 Cody Mauch 3 Tyler Scott 4 Kendre Miller 5 Elijah Higgins 6 Aidan O’Connell 7 Tyson Bagent UDFA Frank Gore Jr.
Drafted Higher: 1(16) Will Levis QB, Kentucky 1(25) Bijan Robinson, RB, Texas 2(17) Jahmyr Gibbs, RB, Alabama 2(25) Anton Harrison, OT, Oklahoma 3(3) Matthew Bergeron, OT, Syracuse 3(13) DJ Turner, CB, Michigan 4(17) Darius Rush, CB, South Carolina 4(26) Michael Wilson, WR, Stanford 5(14) Jammie Robinson, S, Florida State 5(17) Cory Trice, CB, Purdue 6(6) Anthony Bradford, IOL, LSU 6(17) Jakorian Bennett, CB, Maryland 7(24) Carter Warren OT Pittsburgh 7(41) Jason Taylor II, S, Oklahoma State UDFA. Jerrod Clark, DT, Coastal Carolina UDFA. Kaevon Merriweather, S, Iowa Completely Ignored. Ben Vansumeren, LB, Michigan State Completely Ignored. BJ Thompson, EDGE, Stephen F. Austin Drafted Lower: 1(7) Joey Porter Jr, CB, Penn State 1(31) Darnell Washington, TE, Georgia 2(13) Tyler Steen, OT, Alabama 2(27) Tyjae Spears, RB, Tulane 3(28) Jarrett Patterson, IOL, Notre Dame 3(37) Karl Brooks, DL, Bowling Green 4(1) Andre Carter,EDGE, Army 4(33) Jake Moody,K, Michigan 5(15) Adonis Boone OT, Louisville 5(18) Chris Murray, IOL, Oklahoma 6(3) Cory Durden, DT, NC State 6(33) Jack Colletto LB, Oregon State. 7(6) MJ Anderson, DL, Iowa St. 7(16) Mike Jones, LB, LSU Drafted Correctly: 1(9) Peter Skoronski ,OT, Northwestern 2(24) Keeanu Benton, DL, Wisconsin 3(16) Marvin Mims, WR, Oklahoma 4(3) A.T. Perry, WR, Wake Forest 5(1) Zack Kuntz, TE, Old Dominion 6(13) Stetson Bennett,QB, Georgia 7(38)Aubrey Miller Jr ,LB, Jackson St. UDFA Micah Baskerville, LB, LSU
Looks like it's between @ShanePHallam @Quew777 @RTTRUTH and @StlCrtn this year. Everyone else currently late. @LAOJoe I'll give you another 10 minutes. That's how quick I cut my options in half.
I’m more amused that it should be easier, and yet the two most consistent/intimidating participants are both still involved. WTF.
After I got done with my challenge I read Shane's 7 round mock draft. Have to say... pretty similar to my thoughts.
For anyone that wants to, we could just for our amusement throw together an entry for the top five at each position contest again. Deadline will be before pick five hits the board I guess.
I am currently picking up takeout for the family and won’t be able to even glance at mine until pretty close to start time. So maybe this is more for the rest of you
All I know is that I convinced myself Nick Broeker will be drafted by early day 3. I think Torgo got great value there.
I had him written in as one of 7 options too. But when I had to cut 20+ names in 10 minutes before the deadline he didn't make the quick decision cut
I made that decision earlier today just scanning guys. I didn't actually get a chance to sit down and do it until 45 minutes ago. Finished my 1st round mock about 5 minutes ago.
@ShanePHallam official entry Drafted Higher: 1(17) Darnell Wright 1(30) Brian Branch 2(48) Jahmyr Gibbs 2(56) Anton Harrison 3(66) Matthew Bergeron 3(76) DJ Turner 4(110) Jartavius Martin 4(119) Darius Rush 5(149) Jammie Robinson 5(159) Wanya Morris 6(179) Jake Haener 6(194) Jakorian Bennett 7(227) Jalen Redmond 7(241) Carter Warren UDFA. Jerrod Clark UDFA. Mekhi Blackmon Completely Ignored. Gervarrius Owens Completely Ignored: Jason Brownlee Drafted Lower: 1(7) Joey Porter Jr. 1(31) Darnell Washington 2(51) Siaki Ika 2(58) Tyjae Spears 3(86) Tre’Vius Hodges-Tomlinson 3(91) Jarrett Patterson 4(108) Andrei Iosivas 4(107) Eli Ricks 5(150) Adonis Boone 5(144) Dontay Deus 6(192) Adam Korsak 6(207) Chris Brooks 7(225) Quindell Johnson 7(249) Jack Podlesny Drafted Correctly: 1 (13) Lukas Van Ness 2 (34) Steve Avila 3 (90) Chandler Zavala 4 (104) YaYa Diaby 5 (136) Zack Kuntz 6 (213) DJ Dale 7 (254) Mohamed Ibrahim UDFA Frank Gore Jr.
