2023 Collaborative Mock Draft

Discussion in 'NFL Draft' started by Torgo, Apr 12, 2023.

  1. gidion72 Legend Steelers

    Ok. My picks are worthless according to the chart.
     
  2. Wes Draft Eligible Steelers

    Actually i love this for mocks
     
  3. gidion72 Legend Steelers

    You can trade players, next year’s picks. Basically anything a NFL team does. Wes
     
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  4. Wes Draft Eligible Steelers

    Depending on how the board falls, the second trade possibility you mentioned, i might be open to when the time comee
     
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  5. Wes Draft Eligible Steelers

    Ty
     
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  6. Quew777 Franchise Player Manager Lions

    That chart is as old as dirt. Here is a more modern one.

    2023 NFL Trade Value Chart
     
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  7. Torgo M.V.P. Manager Falcons


    The difference is that in real life the overnight break comes between pick #31 (the last pick of round 1 since there's a forfeit this year) and his pick #32. Unfortunately the way the mock falls, the breaks at the end of the day are different for us than in the real thing.

    There's also a connection to using the 20 minute window for round 1 instead of 30 minutes. I didn't explain it earlier but I did have it in mind. Last year we went with 30 minutes for round 1, so we had a "kickoff special" the first evening that featured the first eight picks. If you do that and you base the schedule on 12 hours per day, in most years you would hit the last pick of round 1 exactly at the last time slot of day two of the schedule.

    But... this year @nybites and Pittsburgh would have been screwed anyway because of the forfeit. Even if I went 30 minutes, cut back from 6 hours to 4 hours for the "kickoff special" tomorrow, and then cut back to 12 hours instead of 13 hours on the next day's schedule, that Steelers pick would still fall at the last time slot on day two rather than the first pick the next day. We'd also be losing 10 minutes per pick on 31 picks plus the 3 hours of schedule time.

    So this year I couldn't make it work.

    It's something I'm keeping in mind for future drafts though, and at some point down the line I'll have a chat with @RTTRUTH and @LAOJoe about my scheduling ideas as well.
     
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  8. Wes Draft Eligible Steelers

    When you consider what the Bears got for the number one overall pick. I think jimmy johnson's chart is more accurate lol
     
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  9. Torgo M.V.P. Manager Falcons


    Hi Wes. If you poke around the spreadsheet at the top of page 1 of this thread, you'll see that it has a tab named Future Picks.

    That page on the spreadsheet has a list of all the 2024 and 2025 picks that real life teams have traded. It's a reference to let everyone know who has extra picks and who is missing picks. Obviously you can't trade what you don't have, but otherwise it's game on - trade players, future picks, coaches, mascots, whatever.
     
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  10. gidion72 Legend Steelers

    The only thing is that all picks went down in value so you will still have to trade the same picks to get the intended value.
     
  11. gidion72 Legend Steelers

    I’ll trade you the best blunt you’ll ever smoke in your life for the number one overall pick.
     
  12. Torgo M.V.P. Manager Falcons


    I think that chart was one of the more important developments in draft strategy. Not the actual numbers, but the simple concept of giving things a point value for purposes of comparison. With that in mind you can also put point values on current players, the draft prospects, future picks etc.

    And that's a critical part of a lot of trades that would seem to be off in terms of pure points. If mega-stud prospect Big Jim Slade (clear consensus #1 overall selection) somehow slid down the board and was still available at the #6 pick, a team paying a trade price along the lines of what you'd expect to pay for the #3 pick would seem to be overpaying - according to the chart.

    But they aren't really trading to get the #6 pick. They're trading for Big Jim Slade. And since they're paying the #3 pick price to get the #1 player, they're actually getting a bargain.
     
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  13. Quew777 Franchise Player Manager Lions

    His son is in this draft.
     
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  14. Wes Draft Eligible Steelers

    Las Vegas Raiders are also in the market to acquire an additional 1st round pick if theres any sellers.
     
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  15. StlCrtn Franchise Player Steelers

    Not worthless, just worth less.
     
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  16. nybites M.V.P. Steelers UCONN

    ‘Sup Q remember from CBS ?
     
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  17. Torgo M.V.P. Manager Falcons

    (A hint for those who don't know me that well yet... I have a goofy sense of humor and I'm big on dropping in trivia/pop culture references.)
     
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  18. gidion72 Legend Steelers

    When you try to trade without the chart you will never get it right.
     
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  19. gidion72 Legend Steelers

    Delicious plant life.
    Who’s his son?
     
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  20. Torgo M.V.P. Manager Falcons

    Update: the second post on Page 1 of this thread has the walkthrough of the rules. You might find the "clarifications" interesting...

    And... no more pencil. @Wes is now listed as Raiders GM in crayon just like all the rest of us.
     
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