MONDAY MORNING QUARTERBACK

Looks like a bad concussion will limit Tuas career. After the stumbling and then the finger twisting. He could suffer something disabling him because of too much trauma.

 

Shanahan: 49ers aren’t looking for a “high-profile veteran” quarterback



The 49ers will enter the 2023 offseason program with two primary quarterbacks — Trey Lance and Brock Purdy. They won’t be trying to acquire someone with greater name recognition.

During the season-ending press conference, 49ers coach Kyle Shanahan was asked whether the team would be looking for a “high-profile veteran” quarterback.


“No, we’re content enough,” Shanahan said.

It would be interesting to know whether that would have been the answer if Tom Brady hadn’t retired today. But the answer also seems to rule out Packer quarterback Aaron Rodgers, a player for whom the 49ers reportedly tried to trade in 2021, prior to going all in with an effort to trade up for Trey Lance.

It also likely rules out Raiders quarterback Derek Carr, if he counts as a “high-profile veteran.”

Regardless, it appears that the 49ers will proceed with Lance and Purdy and no one else. Unless they decide to make Brady an offer he won’t refuse to yet again change his mind about retirement.

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Kyle Shanahan doesn’t see “any scenario” where Jimmy Garoppolo returns



The 49ers don’t know who their starting quarterback will be in 2023, but they know who it won’t be. Coach Kyle Shanahan ruled out Jimmy Garoppolo‘s return.

“No, I don’t see any scenario of that,” Shanahan said, via video from the team.


Garoppolo is scheduled for free agency in March.

The 49ers were close to trading Garoppolo last offseason before the quarterback’s shoulder surgery brought talks to a grinding halt. Garoppolo ended up starting 10 games after Trey Lance was injured but saw his own season ended with a fractured foot in Week 13.

Rookie Brock Purdy finished up the year but tore the ulnar collateral ligament (UCL) in his throwing elbow Sunday in the NFC Championship game. If Purdy does not undergo a full reconstruction (Tommy John surgery), then he is expected back in six months.

“He’s continuing to go through that process [of second opinions],” 49ers General Manager John Lynch said. “I think the positive bit of news is that it seems to be consistent that the right approach is that one that’s about that six-month one. Now, everybody will also say you never know until you get in there. Every surgeon will tell you that on every surgery. . . . They’re continuing to work through that process, but we seem encouraged by the prognosis.”

If the 49ers have Purdy back in six months, along with a healthy Lance, they will not seek a veteran starter.

“No, we’re content enough,” Shanahan said. “I know we have two starters on our team right now that I believe we can win with. So when you have that situation, you’re not that eager to go looking around.”

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I think you could assume that for any player that suits up for a game in todays NFL... its a risk they all take. Tua is definitely more prone to very serious damage if he has any more head trauma, but thats just a guess on my part as Im not a doctor. (I did trash a Holiday Inn back in the day tho)

 

Jeff Ireland on Saints QBs: We need to find one, but we don’t want to be throwing darts

The Saints are one of the teams that are expected to be in the market for a quarterback this offseason and they are set to receive an asset they can put toward that effort.

Sean Payton’s imminent move to the Broncos will result in a first-round pick coming back to the Saints and that’s particularly significant because the Saints were without one after trading theirs to the Eagles last year. While speaking to reporters from the Senior Bowl this week, Ireland said he’s “excited” about the prospect of adding that pick because it gives the team more “flexibility” heading into the offseason.


Ireland didn’t divulge what direction the Saints will go when talking about quarterbacks. Jameis Winston remains under contract, but was benched for Andy Dalton last season. Ireland acknowledged “we need to find one” as they work their way toward the 2023 season. He also acknowledged that history says their chances of finding one are greater earlier in the draft.

“It has to be the right guy,” Ireland said. “You don’t want to be throwing darts. . . . Gotta have the right traits, gotta have the right intelligence. In the history of the game, generally you have to take one early.”

Much has to play out in terms of evaluations of prospects and the Saints’ moves with veteran players ahead of the draft will provide more hints about what direction they might take at quarterback in 2023.

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From PFF;
Here, we rank all 32 NFL teams’ need for a quarterback in the 2023 offseason, from dire to dream scenarios.

1. HOUSTON TEXANS
Among the Texans' many roster woes, quarterback is at the top. Second-year signal-caller Davis Mills did show improvement this season, but it was very marginal, increasing his season passing grade from 58.5 to 61.9. With the 2023 NFL Draft's No. 2 overall pick in hand, expect the Texans to target that position.

2. INDIANAPOLIS COLTS
The Colts’ quarterback carousel has been a nightmare since Andrew Luck retired. From Philip Rivers to Carson Wentz to Matt Ryan, Indianapolis has taken numerous swings on veteran quarterbacks, and each has failed to live up to expectations. They have the 11th-most effective cap space heading into the 2023 offseason, so a move for another veteran could happen. But, with the No. 4 overall pick, it feels a big draft splash is more likely.

3. CAROLINA PANTHERS
The Panthers are another team that has been bargain bin shopping at the veteran quarterback market for years. They’ve brought in gently used models, like Sam Darnold and Baker Mayfield, and even kicked the tires on Cam Newton for a second stint at one point. But now they sit in desperate need of a young franchise signal-caller to lead them into their next winning window.

4. NEW YORK JETS
It is hard to believe this team is here just two years after drafting Zach Wilson at No. 2 overall. Wilson’s play has hardly been reliable over the past two seasons. He finished his rookie campaign with a 54.8 passing grade, 10 big-time throws and 18 turnover-worthy plays. He was even worse in 2022 with a 45.1 passing grade, eight big-time throws and 17 turnover-worthy plays. Not to mention, he lost his job to end the season. This is a playoff-worthy roster with one big hole to fill.

5. LAS VEGAS RAIDERS
For almost a decade now, Derek Carr has been the Raiders' unquestioned quarterback. But that is no more. After a season in which Carr earned a 65.4 passing grade (the lowest since his rookie year) with 21 big-time throws and 19 turnover-worthy plays, the Raiders decided it was time to move on. They could still bring back Jarrett Stidham, but they’ll search for a big-time upgrade in free agency or the draft.

6. WASHINGTON COMMANDERS
We saw only one game of rookie Sam Howell this past season, so it's unclear if the Commanders like what they have and will move forward with him and likely another quarterback in a training camp battle. But due to Howell being just a fifth-round pick, there isn’t a ton of understood confidence there for the position being his in 2023.

7. NEW ORLEANS SAINTS
Veteran Andy Dalton actually played well versus expectation this season, garnering an 82.4 passing grade with 16 big-time throws, 10 turnover-worthy plays and a 76.8% adjusted completion percentage. But he was doing it all on a one-year deal, and with the Saints' “win now” window set to close as a rebuild commences, they’ll likely look elsewhere. They still have Jameis Winston under contract for another year and could ride with him in 2023, though not playing Winston at all down the stretch this past season puts that in doubt.

8. ATLANTA FALCONS
The Falcons went into the season with Marcus Mariota and third-round pick Desmond Ridder as their quarterback option. Mariota was the unquestioned starter to begin the season, but after he earned a 61.2 passing grade with just seven big-time throws and 16 turnover-worthy plays in 13 games, the team decided to make a change.

Ridder played well versus expectations in his four starts, with a 62.4 passing grade, three big-time throws and two turnover-worthy plays. The Falcons will likely keep their eyes open for an upgrade but could be comfortable with Ridder heading into 2023.

9. TENNESSEE TITANS
Ryan Tannehill was not as effective as he has been in the past with the Titans, but injury has a lot to do with that. He will likely be their quarterback for 2023, but it will be the last year of his deal, and he will be 35 years old. Will third-round pick Malik Willis be ready to take over after that? That’s the big question for the Titans, who, after finishing the season on a seven-game losing streak, seem a lot closer to a rebuild than a playoff push.

10. NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS
The Patriots are obviously still in a spot where they could roll with one of their young quarterbacks, Mac Jones or Bailey Zappe, but neither is inspiring too much confidence right now. The incumbent Jones finished the season with a 71.6 passing grade, but the Patriots' offense still just did not look like it was heading in the right direction. Perhaps that was the fault of their coordinator, Matt Patricia, whom they have since moved on from. We’ll get an answer to that question after seeing how aggressive New England gets in the quarterback market this offseason.

11. CHICAGO BEARS
Justin Fields more positively impacted the Bears' offense this season, jumping from a 72.5 rushing grade last year to a 91.5 rushing grade in 2022. But his passing game still needs work after he earned a 60.8 passing grade in 2021 and a 54.4 passing grade in 2022. He’s likely Chicago's guy for next season, but them having the No. 1 pick does invite some interesting conversations.

12. MIAMI DOLPHINS
When healthy, Tua Tagovailoa put up some great numbers. He earned an 85.2 passing grade with a 74.2% adjusted completion percentage. But he did have 18 big-time throws and 17 turnover-worthy plays. His health is also a factor after he suffered multiple concussions this season. Most signs point to Tagovailoa being the guy in Miami for 2023, but there is some wiggle room for a big upgrade if the team sees one.

13. TAMPA BAY BUCCANEERS
Tom Brady broke the record for most completions and attempts this season, so you know the 45-year-old's arm still has some juice in it. But he’s a pending free agent, so even if he’s not returning, there’s no guarantee he’d be back with the Buccaneers. Tampa Bay does have Kyle Trask, a 2021 second-round pick, but he’s completely unproven.

14. LOS ANGELES RAMS
The Rams do still have Matthew Stafford under contract, but the preseason concerns over his elbow and the back injuries that forced him to miss most of the second half of the season raise concerns. The Rams could also bring back Baker Mayfield in a pinch. Reasonable worries exist here, but there is likely not a ton of change on the horizon, barring a Stafford retirement.

15. GREEN BAY PACKERS
Like the previous two teams, Aaron Rodgers has his squad in a bit of a holding pattern. Rodgers signed a massive contract extension the previous offseason but has been thinking about retirement now for a few years. If he retires, the Packers do have Jordan Love, which is why Green Bay is the lowest of the three veteran teams on this list.

16. BALTIMORE RAVENS
This unique situation belongs in a tier of its own. The Ravens cannot compete at a high level without Lamar Jackson. But the two were already seemingly far apart on a long-term contract extension, and then Jackson suffered a knee injury that forced him to miss not only the final fourth of the regular season but ultimately their final game of the year in a wild-card loss to the Bengals. If you believe social media cues, Jackson doesn’t seem to be pounding his chest about being a Raven moving forward. Perhaps a tag-and-trade move is on the horizon.

 

17. PITTSBURGH STEELERS
There were some concerns about first-round pick Kenny Pickett not being able to beat out Mitch Trubisky for the starting job to open the season, but after eventually becoming the full-time starter, Pickett played well, especially down the stretch. Since Week 12, he earned a 90.3 overall grade with an 88.5 passing grade. Though it was just a six-week span, it was impressive to see.

18. DETROIT LIONS
Jared Goff had the Lions' offense roaring (get it?) this season as one of the highest-scoring units in the league. Of course, offensive coordinator Ben Johnson had a lot to do with that, as was evident by Goff still making more turnover-worthy plays (22) than big-time throws (16). Still, it was a much better season from Goff overall, which means the Lions probably won’t force a quarterback upgrade. But with the No. 6 and No. 18 overall picks in the upcoming draft, they could take a chance on one.

19. NEW YORK GIANTS
Daniel Jones has silenced a lot of critics this year (myself included). I’m not about to put him in an elite tier or anything, but this was certainly his best year with maybe his worst supporting cast in the passing game. Jones finished the regular season with a 78.9 overall grade, a 73.1 passing grade and an 82.3 rushing grade — with the overall and rushing grades being team highs. Jones is up for a contract extension, so there is some uncertainty, but with the Giants still alive in the playoffs, it’s hard to imagine anyone else under center for them in 2023.

20. SEATTLE SEAHAWKS
Geno Smith was one of the best stories of the 2022 NFL season. He ranked second in big-time throws (33) to Josh Allen and passed for more than 4,000 yards with a 77.8% adjusted completion percentage. The only potential doubt here about Smith staying in Seattle is the Seahawks holding the No. 5 overall pick. Could they be tempted by a quarterback?

21. CLEVELAND BROWNS
Deshaun Watson was not good this season after returning from his 11-game suspension. His 1.7% big-time throw percentage and 4.1% turnover-worthy play percentage were the worst ratios of his career. But the Browns signed him to a massive, fully guaranteed contract when they traded for him, so he’s not going anywhere.

22. DENVER BRONCOS
The Broncos are indeed stuck with Russell Wilson. After the team spent a king’s ransom of both draft capital and cap space to bring him to Denver, Wilson and the offense’s performance in 2022 was so bad that it got their first-year head coach fired. Wilson’s 64.5 passing grade was the worst mark of his career and his first grade in the 60s for a full season. But the Broncos signed him to a five-year deal, so whoever is wearing the headset next in Denver will have to make it work.

23. MINNESOTA VIKINGS
Kirk Cousins had a good season in 2022. For the most part, he played better under pressure (the big narrative against him), and his team finished the regular season 13-3 en route to the No. 3 seed in the playoffs. But the way in which their playoff loss finished will leave a bad taste in people’s mouths. 2023 is the final year of Cousins’ deal, but he won’t be going anywhere — at least not until that deal is done, given the guarantees and the void years within it.

24. SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS
Like the Ravens' situation (only much more hopeful), the Niners need a tier of their own. It feels like Kyle Shanahan has done the impossible: make an NFL offense quarterback-proof. Now, I don’t say that as an insult to Jimmy Garoppolo, Brock Purdy or even Trey Lance. But all three of those guys, with varying degrees of style and experience, have found success in Shanahan’s offense. Right now, it seems like Garappolo will be out. Is Purdy's impressive run enough to say this team won’t consider quarterback upgrades this offseason? Do they believe in Lance enough for that, as well? I still think if a major upgrade came along (Tom Brady), the 49ers would make a move.

25. DALLAS COWBOYS
Dak Prescott is a high-ceiling quarterback, but with the way he’s turning the ball over this season, it’s hard to put him much lower on this list. In 12 games, he’s made 18 turnover-worthy plays. That comes out to a 4.2% rate, the highest in his career. Does it take away from the other aspects of quarterbacking he does well? No, but it’s there.

26. ARIZONA CARDINALS
Kyler Murray has played at MVP levels at times over the past two seasons. But the marriage between him and Kliff Kingsbury is now over, and he might be losing his No. 1 target in DeAndre Hopkins due to a rebuilding philosophy. He’s also going to miss most of, if not all of, next season while recovering from an ACL tear. The Cardinals aren’t going to be changing Murray at quarterback, but the future of how long he’ll be the guy is less certain, even after that big contract extension.

27. PHILADELPHIA EAGLES
Jalen Hurts has truly taken his game to the next level this season — an MVP level, in fact. His 85.6 overall grade, 80.6 passing grade and 84.4 rushing grade are all career highs by a wide margin. His 77.8% adjusted completion rate ranked fourth highest in the league this year. He’s the guy in Philly.

28. JACKSONVILLE JAGUARS
Though it has still been an up-and-down season for Trevor Lawrence, the “ups” have the Jaguars still alive in the divisional round as AFC South champions. He and Doug Pederson are a perfect head coach-quarterback match, and many of the doubts that clouded Lawrence's rookie season are gone.

29. LOS ANGELES CHARGERS
Justin Herbert continues to display one of the best arms in the NFL, although his average depth of target on the season (7.0 yards) could be higher. His 12 turnover-worthy plays and 1.2% turnover-worthy play rate show good care for the football. That’s on top of him trailing only Patrick Mahomes for total passing yards this season. He’s not going anywhere.

30. BUFFALO BILLS
Josh Allen continued to show how alien-like his arm talent is this year with 43 big-time throws to lead all quarterbacks. He did also lead the league in turnover-worthy plays (33), but sometimes that’s just what happens when allowing a player like Allen to play freely and impactfully in the passing game. The good far outweighs the bad. He’s the franchise in Buffalo.

31. CINCINNATI BENGALS
Joe Burrow was PFF’s top-graded passer this season, boasting a 90.5 mark. He made 29 big-time throws to just 14 turnover-worthy plays, leading his team to an AFC North title. In big moments, he’s in that final tier of elite quarterbacks you want with the ball in their hands.

32. KANSAS CITY CHIEFS
Even without Tyreek Hill, Patrick Mahomes reminded us all of how special a talent he is. After passing for more than 5,000 yards yet again, he’s likely going to capture his second MVP trophy. He led his team to tie for the best record in the NFL at 14-3 and claimed the No. 1 seed in the AFC. There are not enough good things to say about Mahomes. He is everything you could ever want in a quarterback.

 

Derek Carr has no intention of extending trigger date on his contract



Raiders General Manager Dave Ziegler expects “teams” to have interest in Derek Carr. The quarterback surely will have a market, but it might come in free agency rather than via a trade.

Carr talked to Stephen Holder of ESPN while competing in the Pro Bowl games and confirmed the Raiders have not granted his agent permission to talk to other teams about a trade.


“That’s for [the Raiders] to talk about,” Carr told Holder. “I’m just obeying the rules. If it gets to the date [and I get released], then I’ll be able to talk to all my friends.”

Carr also told Holder he has no intention of extending the Feb. 15 trigger on his contract to facilitate a trade. His contract includes $40.4 million in injury guaranteed salary that becomes fully guaranteed three days after the Super Bowl.

“I don’t think that would be best for me,” Carr said.

That makes a trade complicated as does Carr’s no-trade clause.

But one way or the other, Carr will have a new team next season.

“I just want to win,” Carr said, via video from Tina Nguyen of KTNV. “There’s a lot of teams that want to win. I’m just looking for teams that have made that decision consistently, that they’ll continually choose to do whatever it takes to put a winning program out there. And so, for me, I just wanna win a championship. That’s at the forefront of my mind. It’s not money. It’s not this; it’s not that. I just want to win. I’ve thrown for the yards. I have the records. I’ve done the Pro Bowls. It’s fun, and I’m thankful for all of it. But, as you guys have known me, that’s not at all why I do it. I want to win a championship. So that’s on the forefront. That doesn’t guarantee wherever I go to we can automatically do it, but I’m just trying to find the place where I have the best chance possible.”

He already has moved on from the Raiders, wearing a baseball cap with an NFL logo on it before Thursday night’s competition, and he even made a joke about leaving.

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I think Carr to the Jets makes some sense, but I like the Idea of Carr to the Saints even better. The Saints would have to re-work his contract or perform some sorta salary cap miracle, but he'd be reunited with Dennis Allen who drafted and believes in him and he would have the opportunity to win quickly in NO.

 

If he becomes a free agent, they will sign a new contract, no re-work necessary.

What about the Broncos with Payton?

 

Russell Wilson?

 

lol... Not a fan, I see. I think the Broncos believe they will resurrect his career after a 5-12 season.

 

Will Ron Rivera again overspend for a new quarterback?



With Sam Howell being the only quarterback under contract for 2023, the Washington Commanders will seek a quarterback or two this offseason.

Will Ron Rivera and Martin Mayhew determine to ride with Sam Howell in 2023 and thus choose to bring in a veteran free agent who can be a game manager if needed?

If that is the case, there are several free agents who could be a good fit. Jacoby Brissett, Andy Dalton and Mike White each made less than $5M last season.

Dalton could be reunited with Ken Zampese, whether he is the 2023 QB coach or the offensive coordinator.

Or might Rivera and Mayhew knowing they must win next year, swing for the fences and pursue a veteran like Aaron Rodgers or Derek Carr? Pursuing offensive coordinators such as Eric Bienemy, might this actually signal the Commanders will be shopping again for a big-name quarterback?

Are the Packers actually wanting to move along from Aaron Rodgers? If so, they certainly will be in conversations with teams who want a serious upgrade at the position this upcoming season.

Certainly Carr wants to be elsewhere next season. The Raiders and Carr ended the regular season on bad terms; they are separated and looking to divorce.

Last off-season, the Commanders presented themselves as desperate, too needy. As a result, Chris Ballard of the Colts worked a great deal in the Colts favor for a quarterback they were likely to release if they couldn’t find a needy buyer.

Has the Commanders’ brass learned from last offseason’s trade? How much are they considering that the Raiders want to get rid of Derek Carr? How much are they asking questions, attempting to learn why the Raiders want to divorce from Derek Carr?

The Packers have been an intelligent organization, and if they want to turn the page from Rodgers, you can take it to the bank; there is good cause. So why would the Commanders be so willing to offer high draft choice(s) for a guy who certainly disappointed last off-season receiving a sizeable raise, yet chose not to be the leader he was paid to be, teaching, leading the younger receivers group?

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I just think that his time might have run out. Defensive coordinators have figured him out the last couple of years and with his price tag, he isn't a piece of the offense any more, he IS the offense. I'm pretty sure they can't get out of his contract though, so it's most likely a moot point.

 

Its funny/weird how he went from hero to zero in one season.

 

They could make him a post-June 1st cut prior to the 2024 season. It would be painful but it can be done. If they don't then he's basically locked in for two more years. Because his 2025 salary becomes guaranteed if he's on the roster the 5th day of the league year in 2024 (March 21). And it's a big salary (37 million). They won't pay him that and then cut him. So if he's there next March, he will be there through 2025 for sure. Then in 2026 he's much easier to cut.

 

Russell has to be one of the primary reasons why Payton took that job, and I have a hard time believing anything to the contrary.

Even with last year's Hackett debacle, Wilson has an over 3 to 1 career TD to INT ratio.

Putting him with Payton is going to justify Wilson's contract in a big way, but the bigger problem is the division that they are going to be fighting to win. You have the best passer in the league, an up and coming top 10 passer, and potentially Aaron Rodgers to the Raiders.

The AFC West may get extremely messy over the next couple of seasons...

 

Raiders Allow Derek Carr To Speak To Teams Regarding Trade, per Report

The Raiders have allowed Derek Carr permission to speak with teams that have agreed to meet the compensation expectations that the franchise is seeking in exchange for the quarterback’s services, according to ESPN’s Adam Schefter.

The news also comes a day after Carr said that nothing had been set in stone about his next home in the NFL.

Carr, who expects to be traded to another team, has explicitly stated that he has no intention to remain in Las Vegas for the ’23 season, meaning he will not extend his contract past Feb. 15. If the 31-year-old was to do so, his guaranteed $40 million would begin.

However, The Athletic’s Vic Tafur reported that if Las Vegas fails to trade Carr by Feb. 15, the Raiders would release him, marking the end of his nine-year tenure in Sin City. Carr, who is currently serving as replacement in this year’s Pro Bowl festivities, signed a five-year, $125 million contract extension with Las Vegas in ’17 followed by a three-year, $121.5 million extension in spring ’22.

If Las Vegas manages to cut him before Feb. 15, he would count for $5.625 million on the Raiders' cap. Carr's $32.9 million base salary in '23 becomes guaranteed on Feb. 15, as does $7.5 million of his '24 base salary.

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