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  1. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    Report: Zach Wilson is expected to be cleared ahead of Week 4

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    Jets head coach Robert Saleh has said that the earliest quarterback Zach Wilson could be cleared to return to action is for their Week 4 game against the Steelers, so the coming week is a big one for him.

    It looks like it will be a positive one as well. Ian Rapoport of NFL Media reports that Wilson’s knee has recovered well and that he is expected to be fully cleared by doctors during his next evaluation.


    Throughout Wilson’s recovery from surgery, Saleh has said that he will be the quarterback once he’s cleared. He reiterated that this week in response to questions about what the team would do if Joe Flacco lights up the Bengals in a win on Sunday.

    Flacco has gone 63-of-103 for 616 yards, five touchdowns, and one interception in the first two weeks of the season.

    PFT
     
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  2. Campbell Administrator Manager Commissioner

    Anyone want to place an over/under on the number of games, or possibly set a week, when the Jets decide to return to Flacco after Wilson's return?
     
  3. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    I wonders if Saleh is smart enough or ballsy enough to do that lol.

    They (Jets) have the Steelers, Dolphins and Packers, followed by Denver in Mile High after the Bengals today... so thats tough. Im going to say by week 5, he's the new clipboard king in NY. Flacco has been red hot.
     
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  4. dirk275 Franchise Player Steelers

    If it ain't broke........ Go with Flacco.
     
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  5. gidion72 Legend Steelers

    Flacco is probably better against the Steelers.
     
  6. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    Tua Tagovailoa is in the training room to be evaluated for a head injury.

    The Dolphins quarterback jumped in the air on an 8-yard pass to Jaylen Waddle on third-and-three at the Miami 21. While he was in the air, Bills linebacker Matt Milano shoved him backward.



    The back of Tagovailoa’s helmet violently bounced off the ground.

    He tried to get up and was obviously woozy, with two of his offensive linemen rushing to help steady him.

    The team’s medical staff helped him head directly to the training room without a stop in the medical tent. The Dolphins list him as questionable to return.

    The Bills were penalized 15 yards for Milano’s roughing the passer penalty.

    Teddy Bridgewater has replaced Tagovailoa.

    The Dolphins also now have lost right tackle Greg Little to what appears to be a hand injury. Larnel Coleman has replaced Little.
     
  7. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    He's back... thats good news!
     
  8. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    QB Mac Jones suffers leg injury on Patriots' final offensive play in loss vs. Ravens

    Mac Jones sustained a leg injury on New England's final offensive play of its loss to the Baltimore Ravens on Sunday.

    X-rays on Jones' ankle were negative following the game, and he will continue to be evaluated, NFL Network Insider Ian Rapoport reported.

    Patriots coach Bill Belichick did not provide any further updates on Jones' status in the postgame news conference.

    The injury occurred on an interception, after which Jones hopped to the sideline, unable to put weight on the injured leg. He was then seen in considerable pain being helped down the stairs to the locker room.

    Jones went 22-of-32 for 321 yards and three INTs before exiting as the team fell short in a 37-26 comeback bid against Baltimore.

    This marks the second time in three weeks that Jones has sustained an injury late in a game. Jones dealt with back spasms in the Patriots' season opener against the Dolphins.

    The loss drops New England to 1-2 on the season. If Jones ends up missing time, 36-year-old Brian Hoyer, who is in his third stint with the Patriots, would be in line to start Week 4 at Lambeau against the Packers.

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  9. LAOJoe Assistant Coach Manager Patreon Silver Maple Leafs Eagles

    NFLPA launching an investigation on how in the hell he was cleared.
     
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  10. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

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  11. dlinebass5 M.V.P. Bears

    As always, if you've got Green Bay on your schedule next week, you should assume your players will be injured ahead of time. Just always how it goes.
     
  12. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    If Tom Brady would have sped things up, that 2 point conversion attempt may have done the Packers in, but no, delay of game... totally inexcusable!

    PACKERS SUCK!
     
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  13. IrishDawg42 Legend Manager Browns Buckeyes Fighting Irish

    Meh... Pats were averaging 2.9 ypc rushing with 34 total yards on the day compared to 271 passing yards. They were going to pass no matter what, with Brady at QB.. The extra 5 yards actually gives them an advantage when passing, with a less condensed field. For that matter, he was looking to the sideline for the play, so I would put it more on Leftwich.

    In the case of a game tying or lose situation, I would rather take the penalty than rush a late play call and not have personnel where they are supposed to be for the called play. Just my opinion.
     
  14. BearsWillWin Drunk (Probably) Patreon Champion Manager Bears Blackhawks Cubs

    I here that a lot on goal line situations and I don't buy it. The space is more a benefit to the defense than it is the offense. The defense has less time to react to the play the closer the ball is to the goal line. If the ball is on the 1 or two you have to play tight gaps up front for fear of the run whereas if it's at the 7....you can give up a 6 yard run and still win the play so you can play more coverage in that scenario. And you can play zone defense....if it's at the goal line you're running man for sure.
     
  15. IrishDawg42 Legend Manager Browns Buckeyes Fighting Irish

    In my post I already established they were going to pass the ball no matter what. Under no circumstances were Leftwich and Brady going to put the game in the hands of the running attack that failed all afternoon. (unless the Packers had a defensive penalty that put the ball close to the 1 yard line, then they might have considered it.

    The passing lanes, between each of the 3 levels open up better with an extra 5 yards(no more over the top once you get inside the 5, all you have are jump ball situations). A condensed field limits the lanes, given 12.5 yards vs 17.5 yards from line of scrimmage to end line. You need to go to one of two depths, between the LOS and backers or between the backers and DBs and either inside or outside the hashes.. The lanes are so much tighter when it is an OBVIOUS passing situation. With normal teams, a normal QB and under normal circumstances, I agree 100% with you. This was an extreme situation, with extreme players at the helm, namely the GOAT QB behind center in an extremely important game when it comes down to tie breakers between two teams that should be in the mix for the top seed in the playoffs.

    Again, rushing in a late called play, obviously the personnel wasn't in position for the call since Brady was moving them around.. The penalty was an advantage to the Buccs in this situation, in my opinion.

    You are applying it to a blanket situation of all conversions.
     
  16. BearsWillWin Drunk (Probably) Patreon Champion Manager Bears Blackhawks Cubs

    And again….backing up allows the defense to employ personnel differently and at the advantage of the defense.

    Even if the defense is certain the Bucs are passing….being closer to the goal makes the defense lineup differently to at least be prepared at the off chance they run.

    Backing up allows the D to 100% prepare for a pass and be ready for it. To play zone defense that’s to their advantage rather than playing man.

    I respect your opinion. It’s just wrong.
     
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  17. dlinebass5 M.V.P. Bears

    The defense is always reacting, and less space also means less room for their error. With a QB like Brady, who knows how to manipulate offenses and find the smallest of room (always having done very well in these situations), this lack of space isn't hurting them.
     
  18. dlinebass5 M.V.P. Bears

    Okay, you might've had a leg to stand on when comparing the Bucs running a bad play vs taking a penalty, but saying that the penalty helped the Bucs is just absurd.

    If that's the case, why doesn't Brady just always take a delay of game penalty, in games where his team might not be running the ball well?

    And can you imagine the DC that lets the Bucs run for the conversion because he just "knows they're not going to" from the original ball spot and doesn't put bodies in the box? Imagine that presser.
     
  19. IrishDawg42 Legend Manager Browns Buckeyes Fighting Irish

    This is the only part of the post that makes every non-Bears fan on this site not want to converse with you. Only a self righteous ignoramus believes there is a right or wrong in an opinion. When using facts and calling it opinion is one thing, but a theory based opinion isn't wrong in any situation. You can change someone else opinion based on your theory, but it doesn't make either opinion more right or wrong.

    Again, under normal circumstances, including an average QB, I would agree with you 100%. But, putting your defense in zone 7 yards from the goal line ups TOM BRADY'S chances of success immensely. Tom Brady knows who and where every receiver is going to be, whether it is count 1-2-3 from snap. Not every QB can do that. Going into zone makes his job much easier.


    At the end of the day.. Campbell made a great play, kudos to him. 2-point conversions are only effective about 45% of the time, regardless if you have the best QB of all time. It's not a high percentage bet to make the conversion, whether from the 2 or 7 yard line. This is one of the worst arguments I have ever been involved in and it's over for my part, I'm sure you will want to get a last word in. You keep doing you BWW... peace
     
  20. BearsWillWin Drunk (Probably) Patreon Champion Manager Bears Blackhawks Cubs

    That's a lot of words and none of them seem to say "You're right, I was wrong". You're thinking it though. I know you are.

    I bet any amount of money if you were to ask Brady if he's prefer the ball at the 2 or the 7.....he'd say the 2. I'm not currently on speaking terms with him to get this question to him but I'm highly confident on what his answer would be.

    The closer to the goal....the more advantage to the offense. Any offense. Any QB.

    I agree. It's almost astounding as to just how wrong you are.

    I most certainly will.

    You keep letting words from an anonymous stranger on your computer screen bother you.
     

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