ALL THINGS BROWNS

Discussion in 'Cleveland Browns' started by TopDawg, May 11, 2022.

  1. IrishDawg42 Legend Manager Browns Buckeyes Fighting Irish

    It should have read smart ass, not asshole... which we are all guilty of from time to time.
     
  2. Campbell Administrator Manager Commissioner

    I'm very interested to see what Peoples-Jones can do with an expanded role in the offense.
     
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  3. TopDawg Legend

    I am too. DPJ and David Njoku will both see expanded roles which should produce career numbers for each.

    If David Bell can be what the Browns envision in the slot, this passing attack will give the offense the balance it lacked last year.
     
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  4. Lyman "Franchise Asshole" Browns Buckeyes

    The NFL has separate policies for PED's, gambling and personal conduct. Each with their own lists of potential violations and subsequent discipline.
     
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  5. IrishDawg42 Legend Manager Browns Buckeyes Fighting Irish

    You know... Not talking about things, sweeping them under the rug, sticking your head in the sand to pretend it isn't happening around you.. Is why progress isn't made. This is a real issue, that happens to be directly involved with a sports team. We can leave the Epsteins of the world off these boards, but when it comes to the face of a sports franchise, personally I think this is exactly where we need to be discussing it.

    Yes, before someone rips me a new one, I know Epstein is a convicted felon and NO I am NOT comparing Watson to Epstein.. I want to make that disclaimer very clear.
     
  6. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    Its interesting to think about the talent on the receiving side of things, because the run game is already top notch. Play defense... give it back to the offense with ball control and eureka, success.
     
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  7. Lyman "Franchise Asshole" Browns Buckeyes

    Probably not. But I can embrace it and wear it proudly.
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  8. Lyman "Franchise Asshole" Browns Buckeyes

    I'm wondering if, should the NFL decide to appeal Robinson's decision, might they stick with the 6 game suspension (per their own policy) and then add a fine? It's no secret that the NFL had a serious dose of red ass over the way Watson's contract was structured during the midst of this mess. Would that mitigate some of the anger in the general NFL fanbase?
     
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  9. TopDawg Legend

    DPJ was a 6th round pick and I think this will be his breakout season. If looking for a sleeper to make an impact, early reports out of camp suggest we should keep an eye on this year's 6th round pick, Mike Woods II. Sounds like the kid has been making plays. Coach's can't say enough good things. Hopefully Berry found a gem.
     
  10. TopDawg Legend

    Current state of the Browns WR room;

     
  11. Lyman "Franchise Asshole" Browns Buckeyes

    Posted this on the Main NFL board back on 7/20/22.

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    Obviously, I think all four AFCN teams are in the mix for the AFCN title.
     
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  12. IrishDawg42 Legend Manager Browns Buckeyes Fighting Irish

    I think that is a real possibility, especially after the punishment given to the Dolphins owner today.
     
  13. Lyman "Franchise Asshole" Browns Buckeyes

    Apples & Oranges, Irish. Stephen Ross was disciplined for tampering in trying to get Tom Brady and then Sean Peyton for the Dolphins . . . not for violating the Personal Conduct Policy. It would be a major PR stretch (even for the NFL) to try to link those two separate violations.
     
  14. IrishDawg42 Legend Manager Browns Buckeyes Fighting Irish

    I’m not talking about linking them, just that punishment in general has included fines in the past. The Ross punishment followed that pattern, where Watson’s didn’t. Ray Rice was given the highest player fine in history. There’s plenty of precedence for player fines, I’m just surprised there wasn’t one here. If the new process was going to start a trend, it wasn’t followed with Ross.
     
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  15. Lyman "Franchise Asshole" Browns Buckeyes

    I admit that I'm a bit fuzzy about whether a 3rd party would be required in discipline of an owner for something other than Personal Conduct. Tampering is more associated with Owners than Players. I suppose a player could be involved in tampering but how do you remove draft picks from a player? Thus, the Apples & Oranges comment.
     
  16. IrishDawg42 Legend Manager Browns Buckeyes Fighting Irish

    All I referenced was a fine added to Watson, which is what you brought up. I agreed that the appeal could be made for the express purpose of adding a fine. She did not put a fine on it, but the person assigned to Ross did use a fine in their response, so I felt the NFL could see a fine as a viable bridge to a better outcome for those that are against his punishment.

    Judge Robinson referenced in the CBA there is an option for suspension and/or fines, with the first offense being 6 games, so she felt that was her only option for punishment..even though SHE referenced fines as an option and chose not to use it. If it was going to be a change in policy, moving away from fines that's one thing, but that point was moot after seeing Ross get a fine as "part" of the punishment.

    The fine aspect is where it begins and ends for the comparison of the two. That's the only aspect I thought you were asking about and I agreed that I thought it would be an option.
     
  17. TopDawg Legend

    Multiple injuries ruined his rookie season, and then he got the dreaded torn biceps injury last year. Part of the LSU to Cleveland pipeline, hopefully this will be the year we finally get to see what Jacob Phillips can do.

     
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  18. Lyman "Franchise Asshole" Browns Buckeyes

    The NFL has announced it WILL appeal Judge Robinson's 6 game suspension. No further details were provided.
     
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  19. gidion72 Legend Steelers

    Even though I agree with the appeal, I don’t see any fairness in the way that they set up the process for suspension and appeal. It seems very ass backwards to have one of the parties involved be the one controlling the appeal.
     
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  20. IrishDawg42 Legend Manager Browns Buckeyes Fighting Irish

    The only real benefit the NFLPA got out of the deal is an arbitrator decides if a player actually deserves a punishment… if they do, then it the same old song and dance. Roger’s one man band. He has full autonomy over the remaining process, once it is decided a player is found to have violated the CBA policies.

    The NFLPA can sue, but they will not win.
     
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