MONDAY MORNING QUARTERBACK

Not because of the number of rings he has.

 

Are you sure?
With 7 rings, he has more than anyone, Bart Starr is second with 5

Other benchmarks against QBs with at least 2 rings:
Yards per game he is 2nd
Yards per attempt he is 13th
Completion % he is 5th
TD % he is 10th
QB rating 2nd
*INT% he is 1st
*games played he is 1st
Winning % he is 3rd

Is he the goat because he is the best in INT%, or because of career longevity(he has played 50 more games than anyone else and he isn't retired yet?

Or the most important category, winning, he thrived above all others?

I would say the rings are what puts him over the top for me personally... just my opinion.

Other benchmarks against all QBs:
Yards per game he is 8th
Yards per attempt he is tied for 29th
Yards per completion he is tied for 145th (Baker Mayfield is 111th)
Completion % he is tied for 19th
TD % he is tied for 25th
QB rating he is 8th
INT% he is tied for 5th
*games played he is 1st
Winning % he is 3rd

 

Good post, Irish.

I was wondering how Tom could be the GOAT without all those rings.

 

I assume you ignored all the categories he is number 1 in because he's played more games than anyone else. But we don't do that when we call Jerry Rice the GOAT. Do we?

 

p.s. Fuck Tom Brady. He'll always be a cheater in my book.

 

Well, with 50 extra games, yeah... That's why I asked him if he was HIS GOAT because of the most games played... which takes care of the rest of the categories.

You can make your argument for the greatest WR... I'm not stopping you.

 

Sterling Sharpe. My argument is... because I say so.

 

Mike Wilson has 4 Super Bowl rings(tied with John Stallworth and Lynn Swann, who played on the same team in the same Super Bowls)... do you put him in the category of GOAT for wide receivers?

 

The question at hand is... if you don't think Tom Brady is the GOAT QB, who is your nom?

 

I guess some would disagree, since he isn't even in the HOF. It's hard to believe a player out of the league for nearly 30 years, not in the HOF, should be considered the GOAT WR... but I loved to watch him play.

I would love to hear the story of how he became your GOAT though. What would lead you to that conclusion? BTW, I'm not being a smart ass...

 

You totally missed my point. IMO, Tom Brady is, in fact, the GOAT. But not because he has 7 rings. Rather, because he excelled at performance metrics as you included in your post. NFL Championships are team accomplishments.

Individual longevity is another factor.

• Tom Brady is entering his 23rd year in the NFL. - 7 NFL Championships (one every 3 years)
• Bart Starr played for 15 years. - 5 NFL Championships (one every 3.3 years)
• Joe Montana played for 15 years. - 4 NFL Championships (one every 3.75 years)
• . . .
• . . .
• Otto Graham played (in the NFL) for 6 years. - 3 NFL Championships (one every 2 years)

 

Well hell.... playing in more games is a plus, not a minus, in my opinion and we were talking QB, not WR, or anybody else. Im curious who you thionk is the GOAT at QB, if its not Tom... Im certain there are a few on the list actually that are arguably just that?

 

I might be missing a couple of you guys points... which is on me. Im slow today, well, always.

 

Meanwhile...

Report: “Very reasonable” Kyler Murray signs extension before camp



Cardinals head coach Kliff Kingsbury said in June that he is praying for the team to come to an agreement with quarterback Kyler Murray on a contract extension before training camp, but they haven’t been able to wrap up negotiations yet.

There’s still some time before camp opens for Arizona, however, and the prospect of getting a new deal in place remains in play.


Jeff Darlington of ESPN reports that talks between Murray and the team are “going smooth” at this point. As a result, it is considered “very reasonable” that they could reach agreement on a pact before veterans report to Cardinals camp on July 26.

If that turns out to be the case, it will end to an offseason filled with drama about Murray’s future in Arizona by ensuring that he’ll be sticking around for years. If not, there will be questions about Murray reporting with the rest of the team and what work he’ll do if he does report. Those will be accompanied by larger questions about the commitment to Murray as he heads into his fourth NFL season.

PFT

 

Will it be Baker Mayfield or Sam Darnold as the starter in Carolina?
Posted by Mike Florio on July 14, 2022, 1:34 PM EDT



The Panthers presumably wouldn’t have traded for quarterback Baker Mayfield if they believed in quarterback Sam Darnold. But now that they have both quarterbacks on the roster, and given that the starting job supposedly will be an “open competition,” which guy will emerge as QB1?

Former Panthers quarterback Jake Delhomme, who works an analyst for the team’s radio broadcasts, believes that Darnold has the “upper hand.” That’s what Delhomme recently told Zach Gelb of CBS Sports Radio.


Delhomme bases his opinion on the fact that Darnold had the benefit of the offseason program to learn offensive coordinator Ben McAdoo’s system. Darnold also knows the players. He knows how the receivers make their breaks.

That all makes sense. But, again, the Panthers wouldn’t have traded for Mayfield if they believed in Darnold.

Of course, there’s a chance that the Panthers simply view Mayfield as a buy-low situation. They got him for $5 million and a fifth-round pick in 2024. It’s a bargain. It’s an opportunity to get the thing that owner David Tepper so obviously covets — a franchise quarterback.

Here’s the real question. Will the competition in any way be rigged? Will a close call go to Mayfield, especially with the Browns coming to town in Week One? To win the job, will Darnold have to win it convincingly?

It could be a delicate issue for the Panthers and Mayfield. Sure, everything is fine and dandy right now. If Mayfield doesn’t become the starter, he likely will disagree with the decision. If so, will he become the behind-the-scenes problem that the Browns deemed him to be?

In 2021, Carson Wentz found a safe harbor in Indianapolis after the Eagles moved on. Wentz was able to tell himself, “It was them, not me.” (He has since learned otherwise.)

In 2022, will Mayfield arrive in Carolina taking partial ownership for how things went in Cleveland, or will he blame it on the team and the team alone? The answer to that question could go a long way toward determining whether he’s on his way to becoming the adult that the Browns didn’t think he was. Whenever he encounters with the Panthers (and encounter adversity he will), he and everyone else will find out.

PFT

 

Is Tom Brady the worlds most luckiest man or has he played behind the worlds best Offensive Lines?

 

THAT's a good point!!

Maybe he ISN'T the GOAT

 

Who is the GOAT of the NFL, period? Any position.

 

Unfortunately Brady is the goat