Not that anyone else would be interested in a garbage move like this.....but if they were, to any other team in the league this would've cost a 7th round pick. But because its Pace and everyone knows, it cost a little more. Cos they all know you can squeeze a little more out of Pace. One more thrust.
This entire operation is a bad fucking joke. The only thing that will do is give the next train wreck that pulls into Halas Hall an excuse because no competent GM or Head coach will want to deal with that shit. I only hope that the Bears acquiring that racetrack property was a precursor to them selling the team, making it more attractive for a legit buyer, and someone that would build a proper stadium and would actually have the money to do so.
As for Grant, so far this season he has 2 catches for -7 yards. He also has 2 fumbles. So i can see the appeal... Can’t get enough of those.
This is in direct response to "I am terrified of catching the ball" antics that were going on, on punt returns. Word from Dolphins fans is this guy is quick, but has trouble catching balls. Which is the perfect fit for our special teams, at least he won't be afraid to catch it? Tabor doesn't get enough grief from us honestly. He's no Dave Toub. I don't mind them trying to fix an obvious problem, I have a HUGE problem with giving up more and more draft capital, even if it's a low round pick. F'ing Pace.
How in the hell do you get cut from that WR room? And that quickly?? Did he have a fight in practise or something? Had to have done something stupid, i don't believe they give up on him that quickly otherwise. Some players just won't get it thru their heads until they're out the league.
Safe to say no one here was surprised at the end result. Doesn't make it any less ugly though. I actually feel this was a very winnable game, especially as it progressed and the injuries mounted up for the Pukers. - I like Lazor calling plays, but only in as much as it means its not Nagy calling plays. Im not sure how good Lazor actually is, and ultimately, this is Nagy offense still. Im sure its largely Nagy's game plan too. And its shit. This Offense has to go. This guy has to go. While it inspires hope among fans to see Fields out there, i don't think it is good for him thats its Nagy's Offense he has to run. Long term i can't honestly tell if this is doing Fields more harm than good but I suspect its the former. I wouldn't be playing him. Another game of Nagy ball goes by and this time it yielded 14points. The Bears Offense is currently 32nd in ypg and 30th in ppg. Its a flat out embarrassment. To a very large degree it doesn't actually matter who the QB is. There've been a bunch of them and its always the same. Offensive production is consistently among the worst in the league under Nagy. - Fields? No he did not suck, yes he was up and down. The 2 TD drives he was outstanding, there is clear arm talent there. But he's trying to learn everything on the fly with one arm tied behind his back, that is simply a realistic description of whats happening. Some of the mistakes are him, some are a lack of support. Not seeing ARob for that bomb hurt, thats a potential huge play right there. One of the things i really like about Fields is i can see he genuinely is trying to play QB. What i mean by that is with his athletic gifts it would be so easy for him to take off every other play or start pre-empting taking off, both of which Trubisky did with less athletic ability. But he is trying to hang in and keep his eyes down field. That is the path to success fellas. I know everyones thinking of that play that got seized upon in the game thread where Fields' eyes dropped way too quick. Fair enough, that did happen. But tbh, if we remove that 1 play and most of Cleveland since it was a lost cause, the vast majority of the time Fields is doing it right. Personally i find that very encouraging. I am very concerned that Nagy's shithouse Offense and this line will eventually knock that out of him. I hope Fields can keep going. - Clearly this O-Line is far more competent at run blocking than pass blocking. They again had success on the ground. This allowed PA to be open for business. But the pass blocking is bad. I read somewhere that this OL ranks last in the league in pass block win rate, thats horrible. With the exception of a couple of drives they got dominated. Clark and Lowry took over the 2nd half. The Packers had 4sacks and 4 QB hits both of which would've been way higher with a less mobile QB back there. There were countless hurries with IOL's getting pushed back into the QB's face. This the kinda stuff i mean when i talk about lack of support. - Touched on this in the game thread, but at some point in the week it seems defensive coaches decided it would be a good idea to go into this game suiting 5 DEs and 1 NT. A NT short on PT as well i might add. Dunno how/why this came about but making Tonga a healthy scratch for this game was a critical mistake. I can only think the Bears thought they would be facing way more passing attempts than they did, but even so thats just no reason to make this move. Tonga has been effective in runD early, he needed to play, especially with Goldman's level of play right now. As it was Goldman only played 27snaps so for over half the game on D the Bears 3-4 front had no NT on the field. Hicks was also injured and played sparingly. With this in mind is it any shock the Bears got killed through the A & B Gaps all game?? Expecting Nichols and Blackson to rotate in at NT and consistently hold the POA on inside double teams is a fools errand. Until last drive kneeldowns etc the Packers put out 150yards on the ground at 6ypc. This is where the game was lost for the Bears yesterday. Not Fields, not discount double bitch. Guard to Guard on both sides of the ball. - At the risk of labouring the point, this needs to be said... at this point Eddie Goldman is just stealing game checks. You get gifted a whole game against a backup C and you can't impact the game in any way?! Totally bullshit. - Robert Quinn is a legit Comeback Player of the Year candidate. - Eddie Jackson is the first NFL player ever to get paid to point for a living. - CUT TASHAUN GIPSON NOW - The officiating has to be addressed. I won't blame them for the loss, but they did themselves and Fields a disservice yesterday. If thats a Brady or Rodgers there no way in hell that isn't a free play. It was offsides, that INT should never have stood. I've never seen a QB not be allowed to call a TO and then get hit with a delay of game penalty. There were things going on yesterday that were just a farce. I mean they couldn't even spot the ball! This is more of a rule thing than interpretation, but in an era when its supposed to be all about safety, how the F can a dirty ass shot on a sliding QB be offset by a hold?? It was actually almost spearing. And JUST ONE TIME could a Bears lineman find the nuts to piledrive an opponent who puts a cheap hit on our QB?!!! Happened against the Bengals or Lions, happened again yesterday. - Khalil Herbert had really good game. To see him get robbed of a 1st career 100yard rushing game on a non existent holding call was disappointing. Hopefully he gets one this season. - Chin up everyone, its only the world champions this week lololol.
I rarely complain about officials but yesterday was bad. Rodgers grabs Edwards face mask and they flag Edwards. The flag that never came on Fields INT. Not getting a timeout but being called for delay of game. And there was more. All crap. Not sure how you can get 80 yards and a touchdown on an opening drive and then do nothing for 3 quarters but that’s been the calling card of a Nagy offense since he arrived. I don’t care who’s calling plays….this offense is shit. What honestly happened to EJax? He’s bad. Really bad. The defense wasn’t awful as a whole but that last touchdown drive was really bad. The Lions scored 17 on the Packers on the road. The Steelers scored 17 on the Packers on the road. The Bears faced an even more beat up Packers at home and can only muster 14. That’s embarrassing. That’s really all I can stomach right now.
The packers beating us again, I can stomach insofar as it goes, because I saw this coming, my predicted score was pretty close. The Bears defense is enough improved I didn't see them putting up 30 points, but I also didn't see the Bears mustering any kind of offense. And they didn't. I mean, strip away the details, and anyone with half a brain predicted this outcome. The things I can't stomach: 1. The Packers DON'T NEED THE FUCKING HELP from the refs. They never have. They will win anyway, can you not do asinine shit like not call offsides, gift 2 yards for a first down, NOT give our rookie a TO when he asks for one, call PI within 5 yards, etc, etc. 2. That said, "Matt Nagy the Head Coach" can really go fuck himself. The wind completely came out of the teams sails after the no call on the offsides. It's a bad call, fine, but you get your team back into it. It was a 3 point game going into half time. And the players admitted that no call affected them. Probably because captain visor dipshit let it get to him, just a like a certain kicking fiasco a few years ago. This team was playing with zero fire after that. But hey at least they scored that TD later on and bounced back? 3. Fields did not play well, but he showed progress. That's what this entire year for him is really about, he was raw, a project, and his internal clock is speeding up. Partly because the line is so bad, partly because at times we telegraph passing plays, and mostly because he's getting reps. I'm not even close to upset with how he played, he's handicapped by mental offensive midgets and is progressing. That's all we can hope for until Nagy & co are gone. 4. Rodgers talking shit to a fan. I cannot understand how r/NFL loves this fucking guy with his Pat McAfee interviews etc. I'm biased as a Bears fan of course, but he comes off classless and arrogant always. And this is just another example. The fact that he's right, he does own the Bears, doesn't make it any less of a dick move. Fucking Favre at the same age was actually classy, of all things, in post games and how he held himself. I guess hooray the rivalry isn't dead, because he doesn't say that shit to anyone else. It's too bad that the rivalry ONLY matters to our fucking rival QB and the fans. He's like an inverse Lovie Smith, his goal is to beat the Bears, and he does it. 5. Lions record vs. Rodgers, 5-18, Vikings 9-15-1, Bears? 5-22. The LIONS have a better win pct. LIONS. I couldn't be happier to be wrong about him. Whether it was injury or Desai's new scheming, he is resurgent. This team is who we thought they were. It's not magically going to change, and frankly, the doom and gloom extends until Virginia dies and maybe longer.
Another pathetic loss... You all hit on a lot of points I planned to, like bears in YPG and PPG. If Erin is under center, I just expect a loss. I kind of don't want to beat the already 2 year dead horse, but what is the point of keeping Matt Nagy? This offense sucks. This game has been virtually every bears game I've watched for the past 15 years, and it just fucking sucks. And what drives me fucking insane is that they don't need new ownership. They need the guy who's going to build a team from the ground up, specifically starting in the trenches. That's not Ryan Pace. Ryan Pace is great at mistiming and pairing a very good/playoff worthy defense with a "developing offense." The Lions even mustered 17 against the cheddarheads, but of course only this team can lose when it sacks Rodgers 3 times and holds him to under 200 passing yards on 23 attempts by 10. Did it look like Nagy took playcalling over after the 1st drive on some plays? I don't believe Bill Lazor is going to dial up a diamond package presnap. For an offense that needed an explosive player, Khalil Herbert looked pretty nice. The backfield situation when its healthy is going to be a nice problem to have. The offensive line again leaves me unimpressed when they need to pass. It sucks to limit a talented young kid at the most important position on the field in a time . The run blocking most of the time was great. Mixed day for Fields. What bugged me most was his response to a question about ARob's busted coverage over the top. He said naked play, his eyes weren't supposed to go to Robinson. Great ones throw that, kid. They also let their eyes see it and change it. The referees were garbage. They're not the reason the bears lost, but they were all kinds of bad. I don't think anybody mentioned the bad call on the TD called back for a phantom holding on Daniels or Mustipher. The bears scored the 2nd TD a few plays later, but that was egregious nonetheless. The timeout noncall was rough. To the defense. They played well enough to win, minus some bad individual plays/penalties. Uhhh...Mario Edwards needs to get his head out of his ass. He's trying hard to be this year's Anthony Miller. The bears did a respectable job on Davante Adams. 4 catches on 5 targets. His big play I'd want to All-22, because some people said JJ quit but I thought I saw him pass him to the safety, who just so happened to be Eddie Jackson. They trolled the bears with their shovel pass TD. The bears need a thumper at SS to have enough for 2 guys because EJax is not going to tackle anybody. Speaking of 'thumper,' I was incredibly disappointed on the play Rodgers decided to turn himself into a blocker and nobody put him on his ass. They had no problems hitting Fields tho.
Certainly felt like it. No matter who was calling plays the game played out like so many during Nagy's time. Great first drive...almost nothing after that.
Trevathan did well in limited snaps Sunday. I'd expect his snap count to increase a lot next week. PFF graded 3 Bears with sub-30 tackling grades Sunday. JJ, T Gipson, and Ogletree. Is Robert Quinn the 2nd best player on defense right now? I wanna see more of Xavier Crawford. Not that he played great. But he didn't play horrible.
I didn't even watch the game. I've learned, at this point. Played video games for a very liberating few hours, instead. May even do the same thing this weekend. I know who the Bears are, with Pace and Nagy. And all I care is that Fields' potential and career survives them. Every loss is another nail in their coffin, is all I can hope.
Yeah, it makes me sick. It's everywhere. If someone is talking about the Bears, more fans than not are defending / praising Pace. It's really baffling, and so upsetting. Also, people do the same thing for Eddie Jackson - defending him against all valid criticism. I have to assume it's kids that prefer the guy over what he does on the football field, because no adult can see his play and think it's worth defending...
Had a guy on twitter tell me yesterday that EJax has been lights out in coverage and that he's "not paid to tackle".
Reddit too, the argument being that the team is talented and Nagy sucks (he does) thus if we just get another coach, maybe all of this will click. And he's had good pickups like Mack, Smith, Monty, etc. The absolute worst take I saw was that Mitch would have been successful without Nagy, so we can't call him a bust either. Which is amazing. I guess if you can take a talent evaluation of Mitch and say he's actually a great talent, you could do this for any Pace pick, and he's batting 1000. I mean, if he got to pick a second QB, why not pick a second HC too? His seat isn't even moderately lukewarm I think, which is a shame. Captain Trade-Boner sucks despite the good moves. Kevin White, Mitch Trubisky, trading away tons of top round talent so he doesn't even have swings to show anything for there. The biggest, and most glaring problem is the still the offensive line, which he tried to address this year, but even that was an immediate round peg/square hole situation and he ended up injured to boot. And a single player isn't going to make that line instantly better. Yeah, this team isn't "Lions level" talent starved, but fuck me if there are world beaters across the board.
