MONDAY MORNING QUARTERBACK

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  1. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    Report: Eagles don’t feel they’ve received a fair offer for Carson Wentz

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    The Eagles want a higher price to part with quarterback Carson Wentz.

    Despite reports in recent days that a Wentz trade agreement is close, Mike Garafolo of NFL Network reports that the Eagles are still waiting for an offer that they feel is fair. So far, they haven’t gotten one.

    What is fair? Some reports have indicated that the Colts or Bears may part with their first-round draft pick for Wentz, but there’s been no solid reporting about exactly what has been offered, and exactly what the Eagles are demanding.

    So now we wait to see whether any team is willing to meet the Eagles’ asking price for a quarterback who was once an MVP candidate, but is now coming off a season in which he got benched. The Eagles want more than anyone has offered so far.

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  2. Badd_Man1 M.V.P. Vikings

    What a mess for the Texans
     
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  3. Vancouver Volcanos Franchise Player

    What a mess for the Texans


    So true Badd.......is Watson going to sit out the regular season ?

    I hope not because he is a good player and exciting to watch.
     
  4. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    Russell Wilson: I’m frustrated with getting hit too much

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    The Ravens are focused on improving the pass protection for Lamar Jackson, General Manager Eric DeCosta said Tuesday, and it sounds as if the Seahawks better do the same for Russell Wilson this offseason.

    The Seahawks quarterback confirmed a report over the weekend that he has “grown increasingly frustrated” by the team’s inability to protect him.

    “I’m frustrated at getting hit too much,” Wilson said Tuesday on a video call, via Curtis Crabtree of PFT and Sports Radio KJR. “I’m frustrated with that. At the end of the day, man, you want to win, you know.”

    Wilson has taken 394 sacks in his nine seasons, including 47 in 2020. He was sacked a league-high 48 times in 2019 and took a career-high 51 in 2018.

    “You never want to get hit. That’s just, that’s the reality of playing this position,” Wilson said. “Ask any quarterback who wants to play this game, and I think, at the same time, it’s part of the job and everything else. I think that the reality is is that I’ve definitely been hit, been sacked, I don’t know, almost 400 times. And so we’ve got to get better. I’ve got to find ways to get better, too. And so just continue to try to find that. But I think that as we continue to go along the process, and I think about my career and what I want to be able to do, I think it always starts up front — offensively, defensively. It always does. And I think ultimately I’m grateful for the time that I’ve been able to put in every day into the process, and I love this game. I came to play this game to win championships. So if you asked me about the trust factor of it all, I mean, I’ve always put my trust in the Seahawks and trying to do whatever it takes to win and hopefully that will continue. I think that’s a key part and so I think part of that is how we go about the protection part of it and figuring those little things out like that. Those are those are important things.”

    Wilson said earlier Tuesday on The Dan Patrick Show he wasn’t sure whether he’s available in a trade or not, adding, “That’s a Seahawks question.” Like Tom Brady, Wilson also wants a voice in the makeup of the roster.

    It sounds like improving the roster, for Wilson, begins in the offensive line.

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  5. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    Hey, Russell! Take up golf! :p
     
  6. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    Taylor Heinicke agrees to two-year deal with Washington

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    Quarterback Taylor Heinicke was a good bet to return to the Washington Football Team as a restricted free agent this offseason, but now he’s a sure bet.

    Ian Rapoport of NFL Media reports that Heinicke has agreed to a two-year deal with the team. The deal is worth $8.75 million and also includes incentives tied to how many starts he makes during the life of the pact.

    Heinicke signed with Washington’s practice squad in December and replaced Dwayne Haskins as the Football Team’s quarterback during a Week 16 loss to the Panthers. Alex Smith returned for Week 17, but was not healthy enough to play against the Buccaneers in the Wild Card round of the playoffs.

    Heinicke was 26-of-44 for 306 yards, a touchdown, and an interception while also rushing for a touchdown in the 31-23 loss.

    Washington has made it clear that they are considering all possibilities for their starting quarterback job in 2021. Future moves may change the picture, but Wednesday’s news suggests Heinicke’s got a chance of being in that competition.

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  7. BearsWillWin Drunk (Probably) Patreon Champion Manager Bears Blackhawks Cubs

    I think he was like 5th in the league in time to throw.
     
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  8. RTTRUTH Legend Manager Colts

    From a story on theScore app.

    While you may be right in 2020, there’s definitely something to that number
     
  9. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

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    • Dr. Robert Anderson, a renowned foot and ankle surgeon who serves as a Packers’ team physician, operated on Patrick Mahomes‘ foot Wednesday.

    Ian Rapoport of NFL Media reports the surgery to repair a torn plantar plate went well with “no issues at all.”

    The Chiefs quarterback’s rehab likely keeps him off the field this offseason, but the expectation is Mahomes will recover in plenty of time for the start of the 2021 season.

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  10. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    Report: Seahawks management not happy with Russell Wilson

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    Seahawks quarterback Russell Wilson showed rare candor this week when he went on the Dan Patrick Show and said, among other things, that he’s frustrated by getting hit too much and that he’s not sure if he’s available in a trade. That may have rubbed Seahawks management the wrong way.

    Patrick said on his show the day after Wilson’s appearance that he heard from a source that the Seahawks aren’t happy with Wilson for taking his frustrations public.

    “A source told me that the Seahawks’ management is not happy with Russell Wilson and his camp for taking this to the media,” Patrick said. “You wonder if they’re going to be able to co-exist. . . . The current situation is not sustainable. That’s what I was told.”

    If Wilson isn’t happy with the Seahawks, and the Seahawks aren’t happy with Wilson, a trade would make a lot of sense. The betting odds have the Raiders and the Cowboys as the most likely destinations for Wilson. There was a time when Wilson looked like he’d be the Seahawks’ franchise quarterback for many years to come, but they may now be heading for a divorce.

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  11. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    I dont get the Wilson to the Cowboys thing. I thought Dak was their man.

    As a fan who loves to hate Seattle, Im enjoying this and it seems to be spinning faster and out of control.

    Here's my concerned face ----> :lol:
     
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  12. BearsWillWin Drunk (Probably) Patreon Champion Manager Bears Blackhawks Cubs

    How many of his sacks come from his willingness and preference to extend plays with his feet though?
     
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  13. Campbell Administrator Manager Commissioner

    I was thinking about this and I’ve decided that it has to cut both ways.

    The idea being that his escape ability both adds to and takes away from the sack totals.

    The real question within your question, IMO, is which side of the ledger is more affected?

    Considering the Seahawks line has been a problem his entire time as the starter, my personal opinion is that the total has a likelihood of being higher if he were to be less athletic behind it.
     
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  14. BearsWillWin Drunk (Probably) Patreon Champion Manager Bears Blackhawks Cubs

    Not saying the Seahawks line has ever been good because it hasn't in a while. But when you look at the QBs that historically have held the ball longer than others....it always seems like their offensive line is dogged as being not very good.

    Early in his career Aaron Rodgers had a habit of holding the ball longer than he should. He got hit a lot, sacked a lot, and the general opinion was his line sucked. He himself evolved his game. He got better against the blitz, learned to get the ball out quicker, and over the years his offensive line has went from being regarded as one of the worst in the game to one of the best.

    Offensive line play is critical. But I think what gets overlooked is how much of an impact the QB's actions have on how good or bad the offensive line looks.

    QBs that want to move their feet even when they don't absolutely have to and have a tendency to hold on to the ball longer than they need to are gonna change the way their line is graded.
     
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  15. Campbell Administrator Manager Commissioner

    I agree with all of this, and it was already factored into my opinion.

    The primary difference, IMO, is whether or not that comes from being forced to flee immediately or trying to extend plays as a habit.

    Wilson is a little column A, a little column B.
     
  16. BearsWillWin Drunk (Probably) Patreon Champion Manager Bears Blackhawks Cubs

    No argument there.
     
  17. Campbell Administrator Manager Commissioner

    Orlando Brown may be requesting a trade out of Baltimore. He wants to remain a starter at left tackle.

    It's an interesting thing to think about, considering how it affects his play and, ultimately, his future contracts/paydays.
     
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  18. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    I wonder why he has asked for a trade out, has Baltimore already contacted him and said he was going back to the right side once Stanley is healthy?

    Or is this about the money for a left vs right?
     
  19. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    Fewer and fewer teams have clear, committed quarterback relationships

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    In this golden age of quarterbacks, an unprecedented amount of uncertainty has crept into the position.

    It’s a point made last night by Charean Williams on PFT PM and fleshed out in further detail on Thursday’s PFT Live. Currently, not many teams have a clear, unconditional, and unequivocal relationship with their starting quarterback that spans the next two years.

    That’s the criteria: Team committed to quarterback and quarterback committed to team for 2021 and 2022. At the most, there are eight teams — 25 percent of the league — with such mutuality of commitment.

    Here are the ones we’ve identified: Bills and Josh Allen; Ravens and Lamar Jackson; Bengals and Joe Burrow; Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes; Chargers and Justin Herbert; Buccaneers and Tom Brady; Cardinals and Kyler Murray; and Titans and Ryan Tannehill.

    I’m a little on the fence about Tannehill. A bad year in 2021 could prompt the team to move on from him. As MDS noted in our internal deliberations about this subject, a year ago a list of this nature would have included the Rams and Jared Goff, and the Eagles and Carson Wentz.

    Barely missing the list were the Browns and Baker Mayfield. Regression in 2021 could prompt the team to try to trade Mayfield in 2022, which barring a long-term extension will be the option year of his rookie contract.

    The Rams and Matthew Stafford, who surely are tied together for the next two years, also were omitted because: (1) he’s currently still a Lion; and (2) Stafford is an example of a post-2020 quarterback situation that has resulted in a looming divorce.

    So at a time when there are more capable quarterbacks to go around than ever before, the league has unprecedented uncertainty at the position. It’s a combination of an increased supply (allowing teams to consider options) and emboldened franchise quarterbacks (causing multiple quarterbacks to privately and/or publicly call their own futures into question).

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  20. Lyman "Franchise Asshole" Browns Buckeyes

    In a word . . . yes.
     
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