MONDAY MORNING QUARTERBACK

Discussion in 'NFL General Discussion' started by Willie, Oct 16, 2017.

  1. Jeanquev Legend Steelers

    Does anyone else get the Marino vs Montana vibe for this game?
     
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  2. Vancouver Volcanos Franchise Player

    Does anyone else get the Marino vs Montana vibe for this game?


    That is a great question Jean........it is a Yes and NO answer.....lol

    Marino was in his 2nd Year and struggled in the 2nd half.

    Joe waxed the Dolphins and had Sushi for lunch....lol

    Your comparing Mahomes and Brady........different era and two different QB's.
     
  3. gidion72 Legend Steelers

    No Marino, Montana vibe. Brady has been to more SBs than any other two players combined and Mahomes has won a SB MVP. Marino had no championship experience and Montana had about what Mahomes has in experience.
     
  4. IrishDawg42 Legend Manager Browns Buckeyes Fighting Irish

    I think you guys are taking this a little too literal, basing it on overall career and what not... I believe he just means a battle between two great QBs. That's what the Dolphins v 49ers was billed and I agree, that is the feel I get from this game. Two great QBs battling for the title. Both teams are going to go as far as their QBs take them...It's been that way all season and will be that way in the final game of the season. It will be decided between the play of these two players.
     
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  5. Lyman "Franchise Asshole" Browns Buckeyes

    Guys . . .

    This isn't Ali vs. Frazier. It's Brady (+10 guys) vs. the Chiefs' defense -and- Mahomes (+10 guys) vs. the Buccaneers' defense. It's Reed's strategy vs Arian's strategy.

    You guys are playing "Rock'em Sock'em Robots" with Brady vs Mahomes when it's really 3D chess.
     
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  6. Jeanquev Legend Steelers

    Mostly the great vs great but also the similarities. When it was marino vs montana it was the young gun vs the vet (even though montana had only been in the league 6 years). The hype train was all on marino and how do you stop the dolphins. Montana came into the game having thrown 5 interceptions over the last two games.

    Flash forward to this weekend. Young gun vs the vet. Hype train how do you stop the chiefs and all their weapons. Brady comes in off a game where 3 straight drives ended with interceptions.
     
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  7. Jeanquev Legend Steelers

    Even in 3D chess its the kings that are the most important piece on the board.
     
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  8. EvertonBears M.V.P. Bears

    I would've thought the Chiefs being without both their pro bowl Tackles may bring the Bucs edge rush more into play, considering both JPP & Barrett are themselves pro bowlers. Or that if the Chiefs try to roll their protections to cover for this mismatch it could leave them vulnerable to blitzes, particularly inside blitzes perhaps, from one of the more aggressive DC's in the league who's unit was top5 in blitz % this season. Wanna guess who led all ILB's in sacks this season?

    But nah why bother with any of that when we can all just shout QB QB QB!!! Lazy bastards.
     
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  9. Lyman "Franchise Asshole" Browns Buckeyes

    In a sense - they are. But even a King can not checkmate the other King by himself.
     
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  10. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    Report: Eagles are “close to trading” Carson Wentz

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    The firing of Doug Pederson apparently hasn’t repaired the relationship between the Eagles and quarterback Carson Wentz.

    Jeff McLane of the Philadelphia Inquirer, citing two unnamed NFL personnel sources, reports that the Eagles are “close to trading” Wentz.

    The Colts continue to be the top potential destination for Wentz, who would be reunited with former Eagles offensive coordinator Frank Reich. Colts G.M. Chris Ballard tiptoed around the topic on Friday. The Bears also have been named as a potential destination.

    Per the report, the Eagles “have placed a high asking price on Wentz.” The fact that Wentz reportedly prefers to leave the Eagles could make it hard for the Eagles to get the kind of package they’d prefer.

    Wentz’s contract contains millions in fully-guaranteed money; as of March 19, the figure exceeds $40 million. Thus, there’s a Jared Goff-style component to the move. The Eagles obviously don’t want to posture the move as an Osweiler/Goff-style trade, since they surely hope to maximize the return for Wentz.

    Still, the Eagles realize a tangible benefit by clearing Wentz’s contract off the books — even if the cap charge for doing so exceeds $33.8 million.

    It seems like the signs are pointing toward a trade. The Colts continue to make the most sense, given both the connection between Wentz and Reich and the fact that the Colts have a playoff team that, if Wentz can perform at a high level, can become a Super Bowl team.

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  11. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    Drew Brees restructures contract to give Saints more cap space

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    Drew Brees has not yet announced his retirement, but in a hint that he’s preparing to do so, he has agreed with the Saints that he will dramatically reduce his 2021 salary.

    Brees is currently under contract for a $25 million salary in 2021 but has agreed to the league minimum of $1.075 million, according to ESPN.

    As explained by Jason Fitzgerald of OverTheCap.com, that brings Brees’ cap hit for 2021 down to $12.225 million, from the $36.15 million it would have been if he hadn’t taken the pay cut. That means Brees has just saved the Saints nearly $24 million on their salary cap once the new league year starts in March.

    Then Brees and the Saints can wait until after June 1 to make his retirement official, at which point the Saints can split his dead cap number of $22.65 million between the 2021 and 2022 salary caps.

    Even after this move, the Saints are projected to be well over the salary cap for 2021, so more moves are certainly coming. But some creative accounting and Brees’ cooperation has just made things a little easier on the Saints.

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  12. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    Panthers reportedly offered first-round pick, Teddy Bridgewater, and more for Matthew Stafford

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    The Panthers have made no secret of their desire to upgrade at the quarterback position. It was known that they’d tried to trade for Lions quarterback Matthew Stafford. The full terms have now been revealed.

    Via Adam Schefter of ESPN.com, the Panthers offered the eighth overall pick in the 2021 draft, quarterback Teddy Bridgewater, and a fifth-round pick.

    “Carolina still looking,” Schefter says at the end of his tweet. Perhaps more accurately “Carolina now hoping” someone sees Schefter’s report and calls the Panthers.

    So take note, Houston Texans: Watson for Bridgewater plus picks? Or maybe Las Vegas Raiders. Or maybe Minnesota Vikings.

    The Minnesota angle remains incredibly intriguing. If the Panthers wanted Stafford, why wouldn’t they want Kirk Cousins? And the Vikings could both get out of a delicate contractual corner with Cousins while bringing home the ultra-popular Bridgewater.

    Bridgewater is signed through 2022, with a $17 million salary in 2021. Of that amount, $10 million is fully guaranteed.

    Even without a quarterback-for-quarterback trade, Bridgewater clearly is available in trade. If nothing else, it raises an interesting question regarding whether the Saints would choose to bring Bridgewater back as the successor to Drew Brees.

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    Interesting...
     
  13. RTTRUTH Legend Manager Colts

    Two thoughts;

    First, I hate how lowly the league seems to value Teddy Bridgewater. Not saying he’s top 10, but to make insinuations that he’s worth a notable amount less than Derek Carr, wrong to me. He needs a quality coach though. He’s not going to go to the Jets and be top-16. Remember how he looked with the Saints?

    Second, I’m a Stafford fan, but I still can’t believe what teams are apparently willing to give up for a guy who will be 33 on week 1 next year. Rams, fine. They’re SuperBowl or bust. But 8 overall + more? I think Detroit would have won that too.

    I guess QBs have been pushing 40 lately. Maybe I’m looking at 33 the wrong way
     
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  14. gidion72 Legend Steelers

    No RC, I love Stafford. Georgia connection, but no way was he worth all of that involved in the trade. The Rams were desperate to change QBs and see if they could get to the SB. I’ve never seen Stafford on a truly good team. So maybe he might just do something with the Rams. If the Rams get to the SB then it will be considered a good trade, if they continue the way they were with Goff, then they killed the team
     
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  15. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    I agree with you on Teddy. I sense that he seems to be underrated. Seems lesser QB's get more respect and earn more cash money's.

    He's better than average in my book and really has a sort of hit and miss opportunity when it comes to being a starter.

    He is a top 50% QB in my opinion and should land a gig somewhere where he is wanted and appreciated. I never liked him being dealt from Minnesota either.
     
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  16. SoCalSaint Franchise Player Saints

    I think he's gone. Just helping out the team with the cap space stuff.
     
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  17. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    Tom Brady’s Super Bowl records

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    Tom Brady already owned a slew of Super Bowl records, and he set even more in Super Bowl LV, when he won for the first time with the Buccaneers. Here’s a list of all of Brady’s Super Bowl records:

    Games played: Super Bowl LV was Brady’s 10th Super Bowl, by far the most in NFL history. Two other players have played in six Super Bowls, former Bills and Broncos defensive lineman Mike Lodish, and Brady’s old teammate Stephen Gostkowski. John Elway is the only quarterback other than Brady to play in even five Super Bowls.

    Games won: Brady has now won seven Super Bowls. Former 49ers and Cowboys linebacker Charles Haley is the only other player with five Super Bowl rings.

    Super Bowl MVPs: Brady won his fifth MVP at Super Bowl LV. No one else even has four, and the only other player with three Super Bowl MVPs is Joe Montana. Bart Starr, Terry Bradshaw and Eli Manning each won two Super Bowl MVPs, and no one else has more than one.

    Oldest player in a Super Bowl: At age 43, Brady became the oldest player ever to play in a Super Bowl at Super Bowl LV. The previous oldest was Colts kicker Matt Stover, who had just turned 42 when he played in Super Bowl XLIV.

    Pass attempts: Brady has thrown 421 passes in Super Bowls. Peyton Manning has thrown the second-most, with 155.

    Pass attempts in one game: Brady threw a Super Bowl-record 62 passes in the Patriots’ overtime win over the Falcons in Super Bowl LI.

    Completions: Brady has completed 277 passes in Super Bowls. Peyton Manning has the next most, with 103 completions.

    Completions in one game: Brady has the record with 43 completions against the Falcons. He also has the second-most completions in any Super Bowl, with 37 against the Seahawks in Super Bowl XLIX.

    Consecutive completions: Brady completed 16 straight passes against the Giants in Super Bowl XLVI, a Super Bowl record.

    Passing yards: Brady has thrown for 3,039 yards in Super Bowls, by far the most ever. Kurt Warner has thrown for the second-most yards in Super Bowls, with 1,156.

    Yards gained in one game: Brady owns the single-game record with 505 passing yards in Super Bowl LII against the Eagles. He also has the second-most in a game, throwing for 466 yards in Super Bowl LI against the Falcons.

    Touchdown passes: Brady owns the record with 21 touchdown passes in Super Bowls. Joe Montana is next, with 11.

    Most attempts without an interception: Brady threw 48 passes against both the Giants in Super Bowl XLII and the Eagles in Super Bowl LII without an interception. That’s the most passes without an interception in Super Bowl history.

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  18. Jeanquev Legend Steelers

    For 1 game correct?
     
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  19. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    Thats correct.

    I found this...

    Most passes without an interception, game (48)
    Brady has twice thrown 48 passes without an interception in the Super Bowl, three more than Warner in 2000 against Tennessee. Interestingly, both of those Brady 48-pass, zero-interception games were losses — in 2008 against the Giants, and in 2018 against the Eagles.

    Despite playing in twice as many games as nearly any other quarterback, Brady’s six career Super Bowl interceptions are only tied for fourth. Elway leads the way here with eight interceptions in his five games.
     
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  20. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    Texans claim they’re holding firm on Deshaun Watson

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    When on the record 10 days ago, the Texans said nothing to suggest that the door is slammed shut on a possible trade of quarterback Deshaun Watson. More recently, they’ve said something else under the guise of anonymity.

    “The goal is to get him back, period,” an unnamed person with knowledge of the team’s thinking said, via NFL Media.

    The goal may be to get him back, but that ship by all appearances has sailed. It’s over. He’s done. He waited to ask for a trade because he knew that, one he did, there was no going back.

    And while it’s entirely possible that, instead of holding out, he’ll choose to hold in (not practicing or playing due to actual, embellished, and/or fabricated injuries), Watson doesn’t seem to be wired that way. He’s either all in or all out. And if he all out, he’s not showing up — no matter the fine, the bonus repayment, or the salary forfeiture.

    The Texans surely are smart enough to know this. Are they smart enough to make the right decisions in the face of it? That’s really the question.

    Some teams simply don’t know enough to know what’s good for them. G.M. Nick Caserio likely does. But he’s the new guy. Owner Cal McNair and/or executive V.P. of football operations Jack Easterby may give Caserio marching orders that conflict with good, sound, sensible decisions.

    Of course, it’s possible that the Texans have decided to take the position that the goal is to get Watson back, with the goal of driving up the price for a trade.

    However it plays out, recent events involving the Texans justify a plausible conclusion that, whatever the team chooses to do, it will choose wrong.

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