The 2020 Cleveland Browns reasonable expectations thread

Biden and Trump aren't the only ones on the ballot this coming election.

 

Definitely not but they are the ones getting the most attention, obviously, and what the average American is focused on.

 

No matter who, we votin' blue.

 

Change begets change. We are a society of followers. The movement had started small, but it is future generations that will benefit the most by what has happened already. Too many ignorant people in the world for it to happen overnight without infringing on American rights given by the constitution. As long as those rights are in place you will have a-holes hiding behind them ignorantly, not even realizing they are infringing on other people’s rights by their actions. By no means do I think these rights need to be changed, I am merely stating that change will not happen overnight.. it’s not the rights, it’s the ignorance and stubbornness in that ignorance.

The reason I can’t agree with Lyman on a “strike for injustice” isn’t because the players won’t unite for a cause, it’s because unfortunately they are already united for a cause, that cause is greed. Boycotting a game is one thing, walking out on a season and paychecks is quite another. The majority of the players can’t survive without those paychecks. This isn’t something that the NFLPA can afford to cover them on either. It isn’t a labor issue within their CBA/League, it’s a national issue.

The platform is there for them to educate by speaking loudly to any and all who will listen, and yet very few use that opportunity. Not because they don’t want change, but because they are not champions for that change. It takes a whole other level of human being to be a Harriet Tubman or Martin Luther King Jr.

For the type of over night change everyone wants, it will take an army of THESE TYPE of people from all races to unite. They are just so precious few and far between.

We as a society have always inadvertently put athletes on such a high pedestal that we either don’t believe when they do something wrong without video evidence, or think they are super human in more than just strength and agility.

I agree 100% with BWW, it has got to start with a clean sweep of the local and state level officials. BUT, we have to have a lot more of the super human beings willing to step up into those roles for change to occur.

I’m proud to say I am a Republican. I have never spoken out against a president in my nearly 5 decades of existence, but I’m also not too ignorant to not be against a president that facilitates anger, oppression and the status quo. President Trump will do everything in his power to divide society even more into a hierarchy of rich vs impoverished. I didn’t vote for him in 2016 and I will not be voting for him in 2020. As @Lyman stated “Biden and Trump aren’t the only ones on the ballot this coming election “. I will do my diligence and vote for the candidate which respectfully represents the betterment of the country. I can not believe it will be either of the two at the forefront. Many say my vote will be lost, but I don’t feel that way. It takes a small wave to form a tidal change.

 

Well now . . .

Getting back to the intent of this thread: We're within spitting distance of the start of the 2020 season. Final cutdown to the 53 man roster is this Sunday. There will, no doubt, be some subtractions and additions but it appears our roster is fairly set in stone. So, here's my amateur prediction . . .

1. 9/13 - @ BAL : Loss
2. 9/17 (Thu) - CIN : Win
3. 9/27 - WAS : Win
4. 10/4 - @ DAL : Loss
5. 10/11 - IND : Loss
6. 10/18 - @ PIT : Loss
7. 10/27 - @ CIN : Win
8. 11/1 - LVS : Win
9. ** BYE **
10. 11/15 - HOU : Loss
11. 11/22 - PHI : Win
12. 11/29 - @ JAX : Win
13. 12/6 - @ TEN : Loss
14. 12/14 (Mon) - BAL : Loss
15. 12/20 - @ NYG : Win
16. 12/27 - @ NYJ :Win
17. 1/8 - PIT :Win

If you break out your fingers and toes - that ends up at 9-7 for the season and a 2nd consecutive 3rd place finish in the AFC North.

 

1. 10/11 - IND : Loss

WOW.....I have them winning that game Lyman.......so the Browns go 10-6 and a WC.

 

You got the division games wrong Lyman. The Steelers will sweep you, you will sweep the Ravens and split with the Bengals

 

I suspect you have them (the Browns) winning that game not because you think the Browns are the better team but, rather, because you want the Colts to lose.

For the record: I think the Colts win the AFC South this year.

 

13-3 confirmed.

 

Now you’re predicting the Steelers record?

 

For the record: I think the Colts win the AFC South this year.

Sorry Lyman that ain't going happen.

 

Maybe . . . Maybe not.

Look at the bright side. Even if the Titans finish in 2nd, whoever they play in week 17 will probably rest their starters and you can back into the playoffs . . .

AGAIN !!!

 

Its an interesting and even more competitive division now, especially with the Colts arguably improving. If you picked the Texans or the Colts or Titans, you wouldnt be wrong... definitely a 3 team race in my opinion.

 

For the record, Im picking 10-6 for the Browns.

 

You didn't ask.

But sure, Steelers: 6-10

 

With the trade acquisition of Ronnie Harrison from the Jags, the Browns' future defensive secondary just got a lot younger. But not for the achilles injury to Grant Delpit, the "old man" of this group would have been Denzel Ward.

Ward is in his 3rd year in the NFL, Harrison and Greedy Williams their 2nd year and Delpit was entering his rookie year when he got injured.

 

IF Ben doesn't get hurt again . . . 10-6.

If he does . . . You'll be duking it out with the Bengals for 4th place.

 

The Browns on Saturday waived the following 24 players, bringing the roster down to the required 53 before the NFL's 4 p.m. deadline.

QB Kevin Davidson
QB Garrett Gilbert
RB Dontrell Hilliard
RB Benny LeMay
FB Johnny Stanton
WR Ja'Marcus Bradley
WR Damion Ratley
WR Taywan Taylor
T Brady Aiello
T Alex Taylor (injured)
C Jon Toth
G Michael Dunn
G Willie Wright
DE Robert McCray
DE Chad Thomas
DT Daniel Ekuale
LB Solomon Ajayi
LB Willie Harvey
LB Montrel Meander
CB A.J. Green
CB Robert Jackson
CB Donovan Olumba
S Elijah Benton
S Javonte Moffatt

The Browns do not have any undrafted rookie free agents on the initial 53-man roster.

Breaking down the Browns' 53-man roster by position alphabetically:

Quarterbacks (2): Case Keenum, Baker Mayfield

Running backs (3): Nick Chubb, Kareem Hunt, D'Ernest Johnson

Fullbacks (1): Andy Janovich

Tight ends (5): Pharaoh Brown, Harrison Bryant, Stephen Carlson, Austin Hooper, David Njoku

Wide receivers (6): Odell Beckham Jr., Rashard Higgins, KhaDarel Hodge, Jarvis Landry, JoJo Natson, Donovan Peoples-Jones

Offensive linemen (9): Joel Bitonio, Evan Brown, Jack Conklin, Nick Harris, Chris Hubbard, Kendall Lamm, Wyatt Teller, JC Tretter, Jedrick Wills Jr.

Defensive linemen (8): Eli Ankou, Adrian Clayborn, Jordan Elliott, Myles Garrett, Porter Gustin, Larry Ogunjobi, Sheldon Richardson, Olivier Vernon

Linebackers (6): Tae Davis, B.J. Goodson, Jacob Phillips, Malcolm Smith, Sione Takitaki, Mack Wilson

Defensive backs (10): Ronnie Harrison, Kevin Johnson, Karl Joseph, Terrance Mitchell, Sheldrick Redwine, Andrew Sendejo, M.J. Stewart Jr., Tavierre Thomas, Denzel Ward, Greedy Williams

Specialists (3): Jamie Gillan, Charley Hughlett, Austin Seibert

 

BEREA, Ohio -- The Cleveland Browns have claimed DE Joe Jackson (Dallas Cowboys) and DT Vincent Taylor (Buffalo Bills) from waivers. In corresponding moves, the team waived DT Eli Ankou and TE Pharoah Brown.

The Browns also signed QB Garrett Gilbert, RB Dontrell Hilliard, RB Benny LeMay, FB Johnny Stanton, WR Ja'Marcus Bradley, WR Taywan Taylor, T Brady Aiello, G Michael Dunn, LB Montrel Meander, CB A.J. Green, CB Robert Jackson, S Elijah Benton, S Jovante Moffatt and K Cody Parkey to their practice squad. Thirteen of the 14 practice squad players were with the Browns this training camp.

Waiver Claims
Jackson is a 6-4, 278-pound defensive end and is officially in his second NFL season. Originally selected in the fifth round (165th overall) of the 2019 NFL Draft by the Cowboys, Jackson played in five games for Dallas as a rookie. The former Miami Hurricane posted four tackles and a pass breakup in 2019. He's a product of Homestead, Fla.

Taylor (6-3, 304) comes to Cleveland from Buffalo, where he spent last season after two years with the Miami Dolphins, who drafted him in the sixth round (194th overall) of the 2017 NFL Draft. With the Bills, the fourth-year defensive tackle played in three games and registered six tackles. For his career, Taylor saw action in 24 games with 51 tackles, two sacks and three blocked field goals. The Oklahoma State graduate hails from San Antonio, Texas.

Practice Squad
Parkey (6-0, 188) enters his seventh NFL season in 2020. The kicker out of Auburn went undrafted in 2014 and signed with Philadelphia Eagles, who he played for through part of 2015. Parkey followed with stints with the Browns (2016), Miami Dolphins (2017), Chicago Bears (2018) and Tennessee Titans (2019). He's appeared 68 career games and has gone a combined 102 of 121 on field goal attempts, a conversion rate of 84.3 percent. Parkey is also eight of 10 from 50-plus yards in his career and has hit 154-of-162 extra points (95.1 percent). He's a native of Jupiter, Fla.

 

Will be interesting to see if Nick Bosa pulls a reverse-Kap and kneels to protest anti-racism...