Protests and Riots ...

Discussion in 'Chicago Bears' started by babyfan, Jun 4, 2020.

  1. tunafat Franchise Player Bears

    He was in the hospital for about 8 weeks as he was stabbed in the spine. It didn't affect him in any way and the doctors just didn't understand how he didn't have some mobility issues.
     
  2. babyfan Legend Patreon Platinum Bears Babyfan's P.C. Yoga

    Oh my God I love this LOL!!!
     
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  3. babyfan Legend Patreon Platinum Bears Babyfan's P.C. Yoga

    That's a relief. Unreal too. He was a lucky guy that time!
     
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  4. SoCalSaint Franchise Player Saints

    When I was in high school I had a job driving a tractor with a weed mower on the back. I drove it over a hornets nest and those little guys were all over me. A gun couldn't help me there.
     
  5. babyfan Legend Patreon Platinum Bears Babyfan's P.C. Yoga

    It certainly can but not always to the benefit of the person who draws their weapon. Can you guarantee that pulling a gun will make a volatile situation better or worse?
     
  6. SoCalSaint Franchise Player Saints

    No. But I'll take my chances.
     
  7. tunafat Franchise Player Bears

    I hear you, I think babyfan probably have mud wasps there with their nest on the ground like you did. That would make mowing the yard suck, bigly.
     
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  8. SoCalSaint Franchise Player Saints

    Yup. It never ends well does it.
     
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  9. tunafat Franchise Player Bears

    It's more likely to make it easier as long as you are on the right side of the gun than it would be on the wrong side of it.
     
  10. babyfan Legend Patreon Platinum Bears Babyfan's P.C. Yoga

    We have a weird type of wasp here with a long body and really long legs. They are pretty massive and their sting is really bad. I will admit to ugly-crying for about 15 minutes but after awhile I saw the humour in it :D
     
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  11. bigrobo876 Franchise Player Bears

    Actually hand guns are the chosen weapon of mass shooters and it’s not close. Any logical person can see that if you really wanted to put a dent in gun violence, hand guns is where you would start. Not AR’s. But those that wish to overturn the second amendment know that going after hand guns first would be futile. So they target the evil looking MILITARY style weapon that NOBODY needs.
     
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  12. bigrobo876 Franchise Player Bears

    No, No, Yes, Yes, Yes, No, Don’t think so.

    Look Baby I am not the gun toting MERICA!!! dude. Like I said my main reason for owning a gun is to give my self a fighting chance against others who wish to do me harm in a life or death circumstance. I didn’t create the gun violence situation in America. If I had it my way I would give up my right to bare arms IF and only IF everyone else or a massive percentage of the population did so as well. But we know that isn’t happening any time soon.

    I do support gun restrictions. Common sense ones to start. But outlawing AR’s, which doesn’t even mean assault rifle, does not make any sense to me. It will do NOTHING but fool a lot of people into thinking the world has been made a safer place.

    I have a 4 yo. So my guns are locked up tight. The chance of me being able to get to one in time to help me during a home invasion are slim. Concealed carry. On Long Island NY. Not a chance. When I talk about protecting myself and family I am talking mostly about from others who would do is harm in the case of a natural disaster.

    In the aftermath of hurricane Sandy it hit me more than ever how easily shit could go down hill. I actually sat in a friends house that had been almost 50% under water with a loaded gun to ward off looters that were running rampant with all the abandoned properties. Hell just the other week there were massive power outages after a storm. People were losing there minds. Those houses that has lights in were starting to look attractive to some I am sure. What happened if shit isn’t put straight just in the nick of time? I rather be amongst the armed.
     
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  13. Vancouver Volcanos Franchise Player

    Actually hand guns are the chosen weapon of mass shooters and it’s not close. Any logical person can see that if you really wanted to put a dent in gun violence, hand guns is where you would start. Not AR’s. But those that wish to overturn the second amendment know that going after hand guns first would be futile. So they target the evil looking MILITARY style weapon that NOBODY needs.

    WHY would you know that.
     
  14. SoCalSaint Franchise Player Saints

    He has eyes and ears.
     
  15. babyfan Legend Patreon Platinum Bears Babyfan's P.C. Yoga

    I come in peace Big Rob :) Sometimes typing can be somewhat terse and it's challenging to get emotions across. :)

    You said something really important here and I really respect you for it. It's something that I have thought about very often.

    When you unexpectedly pit one person who lives a law-abiding life against a criminal or someone who is scared and reckless my money is on someone getting hurt or killed especially when firearms are involved. I actually do understand keeping a gun in the case of an emergency perpetuated by a natural disaster but the outcome is still not guaranteed. There are just too many scenarios that involve fear and panic with really bad outcomes.
     
  16. BearsWillWin Drunk (Probably) Patreon Champion Manager Bears Blackhawks Cubs

    Really depends on what the definition of mass shooting is. But if we look at some of the worst ones...

    Las Vegas...….semi-auto rifles with bump stocks.
    Orlando....semi auto rifle and a pistol.
    Virginia....pistols
    Sandy Hook....semi auto rifles and pistol
    Sutherland....rifle
    El Paso Walmart....rifle
    San Ysidro...rifle
    U of T......a lot of weapons including rifles, revolvers, and pistols
    Edmond post office....pistols
    San Bernardino....rifles
    Camden...pistols
    Wilkes-Barre....rifle
    Wah Mee...pistols
    Columbine....carbine, shotguns, pistol
    Binghampton….pistols
    Atlanta...pistol
    Aurora.....rifle, shotgun, pistol
    Washington Navy....shotgun and pistol
    Thousand Oaks....pistol
    Virginia beach....pistols
    Pittsburgh Synagogue....rifle
    Geneva County....rifles and shotgun and a revolver
    Santa Fe.....shotgun and revolver

    I'm sure there are a lot more that can be added to the list but you will notice that a lot of the more recent ones involve rifles. Most mass shooters have always had a handgun or revolver on them....but the weapons they look to do damage with are rifles and also shotguns.

    I'm not an advocate of taking any weapons away....just making them harder to get and ensuring the laws that govern them are the same throughout the entire United States. That would make things a lot easier for all.

    The rhetoric you use here is strong and it's exactly the sort of stuff that stops any meaning discussion, or legislation, from happening.
     
  17. BearsWillWin Drunk (Probably) Patreon Champion Manager Bears Blackhawks Cubs

    You don't need to outlaw them.

    Remove them from the open carry list. Make them harder to purchase. Don't allow them to be sold at gun shows. Remove the transferring loophole. Make bump stocks illegal except for military and law enforcement.

    There are a lot of things that can be done, short of outlawing everything, that we don't discuss enough.
     
  18. babyfan Legend Patreon Platinum Bears Babyfan's P.C. Yoga

    I'm reading an article by Wade Davis about Covid-19. Mr. Davis holds the Leadership Chair in Cultures and Ecosystems at Risk at the University of British Columbia. He is married to an American and has 2 children with duo citizenship.
    The article is fascinating and a couple of sections stood out to me. I will post the article in awhile.

    As America policed the world, the violence came home. On D-Day, June 6th, 1944, the Allied death toll was 4,414; in 2019, domestic gun violence had killed that many American men and women by the end of April. By June of that year, guns in the hands of ordinary Americans had caused more casualties than the Allies suffered in Normandy in the first month of a campaign that consumed the military strength of five nations.

    In a complete abandonment of the collective good, U.S. laws define freedom as an individual’s inalienable right to own a personal arsenal of weaponry, a natural entitlement that trumps even the safety of children; in the past decade alone 346 American students and teachers have been shot on school grounds.
     
  19. tunafat Franchise Player Bears

    Yeah like when we were teetering on the brink when the stores didn't have friggin' toilet paper, ....toilet paper.
    That's just it, we don't discuss anything anymore nor do we listen.
    We turn it into something it isn't and we then slam the door. :point:this is our Congress today.
     
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  20. babyfan Legend Patreon Platinum Bears Babyfan's P.C. Yoga

    Talk about massive disillusionment huh?
     

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