2020 DRAFT VALUE CHALLENGE

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  1. RTTRUTH Legend Manager Colts

    RULES FOR DRAFT VALUE CHALLENGE

    IMPORTANT
    PLEASE PM ENTRIES TO @LAOJoe WITH THE CHALLENGE IN THE TITLE. YOU HAVE UNTIL ONE HOUR BEFORE THE DRAFT TO SUBMIT YOUR PICKS.
    We use the results of LAOJoe And RTTRUTH's 11th Annual Mock as the starting point. The entire mock is here: https://live4sportnetwork.com/forum...s-11th-annual-collaborative-mock-draft.28998/

    We each choose players we think would be taken earlier, later or around the same spot in the real draft compared to our "official" mock. You get points depending on what happens.

    We each pick 2 players per round who we think will get drafted higher and 2 we think would get drafted lower. We also choose 1 guy per round we think is closest to their exact spot.
    We also predict 2 UDFAs who were picked that would actually get drafted and 2 guys entirely not selected. EXAMPLE of Picks at the bottom. The nature of the scoring could see the winner emerge with a negative score.

    The extreme values are almost impossible to get but they can make or break you.
    A full round means the same spot or greater in the next/previous round and NOT necessarily 32 picks.


    Risers/Fallers
    >6-7 Full Rounds= 60 points Faller/70 Riser
    >5-6 Full Rounds= 50 points Faller/60 Riser
    >4-5 Full Rounds= 40 points Faller/50 Riser
    >3-4 Full Rounds= 30 points Faller/40 Riser
    >2-3 Full Rounds= 20 points Faller/30 Riser
    >1- 2 Full Rounds= 10 points Faller/20 Riser
    17-Full Round= 8 points Faller/10 Riser
    11-16= 6 points
    6-10= 3 points
    1-5= 1 point
    0=0 points
    If your faller pick is actually a riser you:
    lose 5 points +1 points for every spot.
    Maximum of -35 points.

    If your riser pick is actually a faller you:
    lose 5 points +1 point for every spot.
    If he goes undrafted you lose an extra 10.
    Maximum of -35 points; -40 if undrafted.

    Extra Rule: Mispicking an undrafted player from this mock to be drafted will give you -15.
    Extra Rule: Correctly picking an undrafted player from this mock to be drafted gives you 10 points per round.

    Closest to actual pick
    margin of error:
    0= 50 points (30 points in Round 1)
    +/-1= 30 Points (25 points in Round 1, 40 points in Rounds 4+)
    +/-2= 20 points (25 points Rounds 4+)
    +/-3= 15 points (20 points Rounds 4+)
    +/-4= 10 points (15 points Rounds 4+)
    +/-5= 7 points (12 points Rounds 4+)
    +/-6= 5 points (10 points Rounds 4+)
    +/-7= 3 points (9 points Rounds 4+)
    +/-8= 1 points (8 points Rounds 4+)
    +/-9= 0points (7 points Rounds 4+)
    +/-10= -1 points (6 points Rounds 4+)
    +/-11= -2 points (5 points Rounds 4+)
    +/-12= -3 points (4 points Rounds 4+)
    +/-13= -4 points (3 points Rounds 4+)
    +/-14= -5 points (2 points Rounds 4+)
    +/-15= -6 points (1 points Rounds 4+)
    +/-16= -7 points (0 points Rounds 4+)
    +/-(17-one full round)= -10 points
    +/-Between >1-2 full rounds= -15 points
    +/->2-3 full rounds= -25 points
    +/->3+ full rounds= -35 points
    1st-3rd Round undrafted = -50 points
    4th Round undrafted= -40 points
    5th round undrafted= -30 points
    6th round undrafted= -20 points
    7th round undrafted= -10 points
    ALSO in the 7th round you can only lose a maximum of 10 points if your guy is drafted AFTER his prediction. You can still lose more if he gets drafted earlier.
    EXTRA: A correctly undrafted guy gives you 20 points. If you guess wrong you lose 20 points.
    EXTRA: YOU CANNOT PICK ONE OF THE FIRST 7 PLAYERS DRAFTED FOR THE EXACT SPOT!!
    YOU ALSO CANNOT CHOOSE ****
    MR. Irrelevant Cannot be picked as a faller.




    HERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF PICKS USING THE MOCK RESULTS FROM 4 YEARS AGO (7TH ANNUAL). NOTE THAT THE PICK POSITIONS ARE WHERE WE MOCKED THEM.
    Drafted Higher:
    1(9) Joey Bosa
    1(29) Ryan Kelly
    2(6) Robert Nkemdiche
    2(21) Hunter Henry
    3(18) Deion Jones
    3(30) Sean Davis
    4(7) Bronson Kaufusi
    4(29) James Bradberry
    5(1) Kevin Byard
    5(11) Nick Kwiatkowski
    6(28) Jacoby Brissett
    6(29) Parker Ehinger
    7(7) Glenn Gronkowski
    7(2) Tajae Sharpe
    UDFA. DT Vincent Valentine
    UDFA. CB Brandon Williams
    Completely Ignored. WR Tyreek Hill
    Completely Ignored. P Drew Kaser

    Drafted Lower:
    1(13) Reggie Ragland
    1(31) Noah Spence
    2(11) Cody Whitehair
    2(13) Kendall Fuller
    3(12) Jerald Hawkins
    3(21) Charone Peake
    4(20) Alex McAllister
    4(35) Sebastian Tretola
    5(6) D.J. White
    5(29) Will Monday
    6(20) Michael Jordan
    6(21) Joel Heath
    7(13) Mike Matthews
    7(19) Tre Madden

    Drafted Correctly:
    1(23) Josh Doctson
    2(16) Chris Jones
    3(10) Pharoh Cooper
    4(36) Joe Schobert
    5(8) Matt Ioannidis
    6(16) Keith Marshall
    7(11) Brandon Allen
    UDFA. De'Runnya Wilson (i.e. selected as an UDFA here and correctly predicted not drafted.)

    We hope all of you mock GM's participate. Anyone is welcome. It's fun to see how things end up. Any remaining questions, just PM RTTRUTH or LAOJoe for answers.

    You can copy paste this and use it as your starting point
    Drafted Higher:
    1()
    1()
    2()
    2()
    3()
    3()
    4()
    4()
    5()
    5()
    6()
    6()
    7()
    7()
    UDFA.
    UDFA.
    Completely Ignored.
    Completely Ignored.

    Drafted Lower:
    1()
    1()
    2()
    2()
    3()
    3()
    4()
    4()
    5()
    5()
    6()
    6()
    7()
    7()

    Drafted Correctly:
    1()
    2()
    3()
    4()
    5()
    6()
    7()
    UDFA.


    I may edit the scoring a little this year (goal of being easier to score), but the premise remains the same. Guess right! LOL
     
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  2. RTTRUTH Legend Manager Colts

    Drafted Higher

    1 Henderson(17)
    1 Wirfs(14)

    2 Cleveland(6)
    2 Blacklock(20)

    3 Isaiah Wilson(13)
    3 Gallimore(7)

    4 Fromm(13)
    4 Eason(19)

    5 AlbertO(11)
    5 Darnay Holmes(22)

    6 Morgan(6)
    6 Sullivan (24)

    7 Joshua Kelley(32)
    7 Julian Blackmon(6)

    Udfa Javelin Guidry
    Udfa Jaequan Williams
    Unmentioned Nevelle Clarke
    Unmentioned Jalen Elliott


    Drafted Lower

    1 JJohnson(22)
    1 Zack Baun(24)

    2 Cushenberry(9)
    2 Harrison(10)

    3 D.Taylor(35)
    3 KDavis(25)

    4 Runyan Jr()
    4 C.Garrett(26)

    5()Throckmorton(5)
    5 Shyheim Carter(23)

    6 Benito Jones(2)
    6 Luke Juriga(25)

    7 Warrior(7)
    7 Costin(38)


    Drafted Correctly

    1 Lamb(9)
    2 Mims(2)
    3 Pittman(3)
    4 Raekwon Davis(2)
    5 Benjamin(6)
    6 Mann(32)
    7 BrooksJr(14)
    Udfa Frankie Griffin
     
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  3. LAOJoe Assistant Coach Manager Patreon Silver Maple Leafs Eagles

    Drafted Higher:
    1(14) Tristan Wirfs
    1(27) Yetur Gross-Matos
    2(23) Laviska Shenault Jr.
    2(28) Marlon Davidson
    3(13) Isaiah Wilson
    3(40) James Lynch
    4(6) Jonah Jackson
    4(19) Jacob Eason
    5(11) Albert Okwuegbunam
    5(22) Darnay Holmes
    6(18) Khaleke Hudson
    6(20) Javahn Furgeson
    7(19) Joe Bachie
    7(32) Joshua Kelley
    UDFA. Chris Orr
    UDFA. Lamical Perine
    Completely Ignored. Darius Anderson
    Completely Ignored. Keith Washington

    Drafted Lower:
    1(16) K'Lavon Chaisson
    1(22) Jaylon Johnson
    2(10) Malik Harrison
    2(18) Bryce Hall
    3(8) A.J. Dillon
    3(11) Brycen Hopkins
    4(15) Yasir Durant
    4(29) Isaiah Coulter
    5(21) Terence Steele
    5(24) Bryce Huff
    6(2) Benito Jones
    6(8) Kindle Vildor
    7(4) Lawrence Cager
    7(17) Tyler Bass

    Drafted Correctly:
    1(20) Kristian Fulton
    2(2) Demzel Mims
    3(2) Ben Bredeson
    4(11) Alton Robinson
    5(15) Cameron Brown
    6(3) James Proche
    7(36) Blake Furgeson
    UDFA Ahmad Wagner
     
    Last edited: Apr 22, 2020
  4. TopDawg Legend

    WTF? lol!
     
  5. LAOJoe Assistant Coach Manager Patreon Silver Maple Leafs Eagles

    :p
     
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  6. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    Drafted Higher:
    1 (Jeffery Okudah)
    1 (Justin Herbert)
    2 (Mekhi Becton )
    2 (Jerry Jeudy)
    3 (Tristan Wirfs)
    3 (K'Lavon Chaisson)
    4 (C.J. Henderson)
    4 (Josh Jones)
    5 (Kristian Fulton)
    5 (Patrick Queen)
    6 (Tee Higgins)
    6 (Xavier McKinney)
    7 (Austin Jackson)
    7 (Grant Delpit)
    UDFA. - Jake Luton
    UDFA. - Chris Orr
    Completely Ignored. - Mason Fine
    Completely Ignored. - Carlos Davis

    Drafted Lower:
    1 (Tua Tagovailoa)
    1 (Jedrick Wills)
    2 (Isaiah Simmons)
    2 (Andrew Thomas)
    3 (CeeDee Lamb)
    3 (Derrick Brown)
    4 (Javon Kinlaw)
    4 (Justin Jefferson)
    5 (Kenneth Murray)
    5 (Jaylon Johnson)
    6 (Zack Baun)
    6 (Yetur Gross-Matos)
    7 (Denzel Mims)
    7 (A.J. Epenesa)

    Drafted Correctly:
    1 (joe burrow)
    2 (chase young)
    3 (Henry Ruggs)
    4 (Jeff Gladney)
    5 (A.J. Terrell)
    6 (D'Andre Swift)
    7 (Jordan Love)
    UDFA. - Robert Windsor
     
    Last edited: Apr 23, 2020
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  7. LAOJoe Assistant Coach Manager Patreon Silver Maple Leafs Eagles

    UDFA is complete so entries are now being accepted. They can be submitted via PM or in public here. Any scoring changes will be completed by tonight so please give this page a look tomorrow and finalize your entries.
     
  8. Campbell Administrator Manager Commissioner

    Drafted Higher:
    1(17) C.J. Henderson
    1(27) Yetur Gross-Matos
    2(20) Ross Blacklock
    2(28) Marlon Davidson
    3(13) Isaiah Wilson
    3(30) Jordyn Brooks
    4(16) Jalen Hurts
    4(20) Gabriel Davis
    5(6) Eno Benjamin
    5(17) Kenny Robinson Jr.
    6()
    6()
    7()
    7()
    UDFA.
    UDFA.
    Completely Ignored.
    Completely Ignored.

    Drafted Lower:
    1(29) Jeff Gladney
    1(32) De'Andre Swift
    2(7) Clyde Edwards-Helaire
    2(22) Bradley Anae
    3(25) Khalil Davis
    3(31) Solomon Kindley
    4()
    4()
    5()
    5()
    6()
    6()
    7()
    7()

    Drafted Correctly:
    1(20)Kristian Fulton
    2(11)Brandon Aiyuk
    3(12)Cam Akers
    4(25)David Woodward
    5(32)Geno Stone
    6(9)Darryl Williams
    7(32)Joshua Kellley
    UDFA Mason Fine
     
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  9. gidion72 Legend Steelers

    I just copied truth’s list it was so good
     
  10. TopDawg Legend

    TopDawg
    Drafted Higher:
    1(14) Tristan Wirfs
    1(28) Austin Jackson
    2(14) Jalen Reagor
    2(11) Brandon Aiyuk
    3(26) Cole Kmet
    3(15) Netane Muti
    4(16) Jalen Hurts
    4(21) Raekwon Davis
    5(7) Rashard Lawrence
    5(17) Kenny Robinson Jr
    6(8) Kindle Vildor
    6(33) Markus Bailey
    7(12) Colby Parkinson
    7(14) Antoine Brooks Jr.

    UDFA. Deejay Dallas
    UDFA. Luq Barcoo

    Completely Ignored Casey Toohill.
    Completely Ignored. Kamren Curl



    Drafted Lower:
    1(20) Kristian Fulton
    1(24) Zack Baun
    2(18) Bryce hall
    2(15) Akeem Davis-Gaither
    3(11) Brycen Hopkins
    3(22) Zack Moss
    4(26) Cale Garrett
    4(29) Isaiah Coulter
    5(10) Lamar Jackson
    5(27) John " Tiny" Penisini
    6(6) James Morgan
    6(24) Stephen Sullivan
    7(7) Nigel Warrior
    7(26) Zane Lewis

    Drafted Correctly:
    1(10) Mecki Becton
    2(5) Trevon Diggs
    3(33) DaVon Hamilton
    4(9) Logan Stenberg
    5(19) Josh Metellus
    6(16) Dalton Keene
    7(1) Thaddeus moss
    UDFA Marshe Terry
     
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  11. RTTRUTH Legend Manager Colts

    12 seconds late.
    Disqualified!!
















    LoL. Just effing with you TD! :cheers:
     
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  12. LAOJoe Assistant Coach Manager Patreon Silver Maple Leafs Eagles

    I dunno what you are talking about. IT's not due until the draft starts. IT's the only thing we've told people.
     
  13. TopDawg Legend

    Not what the rules say...

    1 hour before draft.
     
  14. RTTRUTH Legend Manager Colts

    Good to know! Technically, in my defence we have never edited out the one hour before the draft line in our opening explanation of the competition. So I stuck with that.
    Do you mean I can still be editing? Mine is terrible
     
  15. LAOJoe Assistant Coach Manager Patreon Silver Maple Leafs Eagles

    Well I told people 8PM when they PMed me before so you're good. Make any changes you want until then. TD posted it so I didn't see that.
     
  16. RTTRUTH Legend Manager Colts

    Anyway for clarification, I’m good with one minute before the draft starts as a hard deadline
     
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  17. LAOJoe Assistant Coach Manager Patreon Silver Maple Leafs Eagles

    I have a couple PMed from people I'll post soon but one guy said he's gonna change it before I post.
     
  18. TopDawg Legend

    lol! Kind of a joke honestly...

    The rules clearly state 1 hour before the draft.

    I don't need to change anything @LAOJoe
     
  19. LAOJoe Assistant Coach Manager Patreon Silver Maple Leafs Eagles

    It was a miscommunication all around, mainly on my end with RT. Just get whatever you want done if you want anything done before the sceduled start of the draft.
     
  20. TopDawg Legend

    Doesn't really matter now. I was playing by the rules you posted.
     

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