MONDAY MORNING QUARTERBACK

Rob is the walking, talking example of banging your head against a brick wall.

Not sure how that is a defense. Isn't that exactly the argument against him?

If so many other QBs in your own era were better than you....how are you a Hall of Famer?

 

If Stabler played in the NFL today...most fans would tell you he sucks.

He played in an era where the performance he gave you was considered pretty good and then when he stepped up in the big moments it was awesome.

Eli played in an era where the expectations of what a good or great QB looks like changed.


I agree with everyone else saying he will get in. I just don't think he should.

 

Because you have 2 SB wins against the Patriots and your last name is Manning.

 

There are quite a few NFL'ers, some being QB's that think Eli should be in. I should do some research to see why they think so... it would be interesting.

 

ditto.

His SB's were epic moments for a New York franchise, and they both came at the expense of the legendary (Boston area) team... That'll probably get him in.

 

lol... from USA Today - Eli came up big when it mattered most, which, with all due respect, is more than the likes of Dan Marino and Jim Kelly can say and both of those guys are in the Hall...
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SI - Manning, who by the way holds nearly every Giants franchise passing record,

sits in the top-10—seventh to be precise—in NFL history in passing yards (57,023), touchdown passes (366), and completions (4,895).

 

Well . . . That's the end all of this topic. The MSM says he should be in the HoF so all us sheep need only to bleat "Yep" !!!

 

Not at all, lol... just wanted to show an opposite side/opinion.

 

#notmyHoFer

 

Would anyone tell me they don't think Ben Roethlisberger is a Hall of Fame QB?

Because if you believe him to be worthy of entry into the HOF, than statistically, Eli is worthy.

At this point, Eli has more passing yards and more TDs, both have won 2 Super Bowls.

Certainly if one is worthy, the other should be also.

 

That's interesting... Just off the top of my head I was thinking Ben would be in for sure. No doubt that's the natural perception that a Browns fan should have of him, but those stats surprise me.

 

I think Ben gets in as well, but he may not enter first ballot.

Millidgeville is going to hang on him and he will also be a likely split among voters for various other reasons.

 

Ben belongs in the Hall of Good with Eli, in my opinion.

 

Drew Brees announces he’s playing in 2020



The Saints may have to put those plans for a future franchise quarterback on hold.

The old one’s coming back.

Quarterback Drew Brees just announced on Instagram that he’s returning for the 2020 season.

Next to a photograph of a mountaintop on Instagram, he wrote: “My feelings about the 2020 season! I look forward to the grind and the journey, for the reward at the end will be worth it!!! Love you #WhoDatNation. Let’s make another run at it!”

The 41-year-old Brees has been with the Saints since 2006, and his coming back should help keep them atop the list of NFC contenders for another year.

The Saints are in an interesting position now, as they hope to hang onto restricted free agent gadget player Taysom Hill. Backup quarterback Teddy Bridgewater‘s also an unrestricted free agent, and should have interest (even if not at the levels some are suggesting).

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Panthers seem to be poised to try to trade Cam Newton

Monday’s leak that the Panthers expect quarterback Cam Newton to pass a physical in March is less about Newton playing for the Panthers than it is about the Panthers possibly trading him to someone else.

From Carolina’s perspective, Newton getting healthy in March is meaningless, if they play to keep him. The offseason program doesn’t begin until April; it doesn’t matter if he’s healthy in March.

It does matter if he’s healthy in March, however, if the Panthers hope to trade him at the start of the league year. And it does matter that the team leaked that they expect Newton to pass a physical in March, in order to send a message to any and all interested teams that Newton is available.

Teams currently are making their plans when if comes to the coming crop of free-agent quarterbacks. Those teams need to know that Newton is in play. Monday’s leak does just that.

Thus, teams that will be looking for quarterbacks now need to be looking at Newton. Of course, it won’t be easy or cheap to pull it off. First, the Panthers will want compensation for the final year of Newton’s contract. Second, Newton likely will (or at least should) want a new contract, given that he’s due to make a mere $19.1 million in salary and workout bonus in 2020. Third, it’s unclear how healthy Newton is, and how long he’ll stay healthy if/when he gets there.

Just a week ago, Panthers owner David Tepper played the “I’m not a doctor” card when addressing Newton’s health, ignoring the reality that Tepper is rich enough to buy the opinion of any and all doctors on the Eastern Seaboard. The more likely reality is that the Panthers, with new owner and new coach, would like to move on. Newton, who has seen the only NFL head coach he’s ever known move on, may want the same thing.

To the extent that the Panthers have become fatigued by concerns regarding Newton’s health, a team that becomes infatuated by his talent may be willing to roll the dice. The question then becomes the cost of the roll, if Newton indeed pushes for a new deal as part of a trade.

In this regard, Newton has plenty of leverage. Wherever he is, he needs to fully buy in. That may not be in Carolina, and it may not be with any other team that doesn’t want to put his pay in line with other elite quarterbacks.

If healthy, Newton clearly remains an elite quarterback. And a team like the Chargers should be doing whatever it has to do to make his their starter as they open a new stadium with the Rams. Then there are the Patriots, who could end up looking for a new quarterback — and who are 0-2 against Newton.

However it plays out, it’s starting to feel like Newton will be out of Charlotte. Monday’s leak seems to be nothing more than an effort to subtly hammer a “For Sale” sign into the ground outside Bank of America Stadium.

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Moving Cam is going to be interesting.

I think there may be more than one quarterback needy team that would rather take a shot at Teddy’s upside or Rivers as a bridge rather than gamble big money on the health and desire of Newton.

 

I'm more inclined to put Ben in the HoF than Eli. Fine, they're key stats (yards, passing TDs) are very close. But Eli's played essentially a full season more than Ben (which, to me, is a strike against Ben - missed quite a bit of time). Eli still hasn't led the league in anything other than interceptions (3x). Ben has a far better W-L record, and has done well outside of Super Bowl runs.

That said, Ben isn't a HoF shoo-in for me, either.

 

Roethlisberger has a lot of accomplishments.
14-0 as a rookie starter, the rookie record for QB rating.
3 SBs winning 2
top 10 in the QB stats list.
I believe someone broke his QB rating record.
Never been a part of a losing season in the NFL. Even Brady was a member of a losing team. Didn't start but still experienced a losing record.

 

Anyone that knows me understands I'm not much of a Ben fan but I think he's first ballot.

p.s. The MVP they gave Santonio was criminal.

 

During a Sunday press conference in Indianapolis, Colts owner Jim Irsay claimed that the team was going to take Russell Wilson in the fourth round of the 2012 draft had he still been on the board.

It’s interesting to think about how different the league would be had the Colts doubled down on quarterbacks after taking Andrew Luck first overall, but it does nothing to help the Colts as they try to move forward after Luck’s retirement last year. Jacoby Brissett took over as the starter and Irsay said on Sunday that he thinks Brissett needs time to develop, but stopped well short of guaranteeing he’ll get it in Indy.

“I can’t talk about any specific player,” Irsay said, via Andrew Walker of the team’s website. “I will say that all options are open. . . . All options are on the table. I’ve never quite been in a year when this was so unusual, if you will.”

One option that doesn’t seem to be on the table is a change of heart from Luck. Irsay suggested the door remains open from the team’s side, but he hasn’t spoken to Luck about it after trying to convince him to keep playing last summer and Luck’s father said recently that his son is enjoying life out of the public eye.

Many have noted that Colts head coach Frank Reich and offensive coordinator Nick Sirianni worked with outgoing Chargers quarterback Philip Rivers in the past, but there are plenty of paths the team could take in free agency, the draft or via a trade. Irsay expressed his confidence that Reich and General Manager Chris Ballard will make the right call on which of them the team will ultimately take this offseason.

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