MONDAY MORNING QUARTERBACK

I’ll rephrase it and it doesn’t even matter, Bill Belichick is 54-66 without Tom Brady as his starter.
The other qbs were Kosar, Testaverde, Bledsoe, Cassel, Garappolo and Brissett. The first 4 were all pro bowl qbs and the other two started a combined 4 games for Belichick. The only time the Patriots didn’t win the division since 2002 was the only season Brady was injured and they didn’t even make the playoffs that year.

 

They did go 11-5 though... not like it was a losing season or anything

 

Let's just consider Belichick's record while he was the HC for the Patriots. (Brady was in high school when Belichick was at Cleveland.)

From 2000 - 2019, Belichick's W/L record is 237-83 (0.741).

Brady's career W/L record, obviously all with New England, is 219-64 (0.768).

Therefore, Belichick's W/L record without Brady = 18-19 (0.486). I would say that's a significant difference.

 

I ran these numbers a few year back and they were almost identical but the Pat's keep winning at breakneck speed so his win % has gone UP since then. So my bad I sold it as a little closer than it really is.

Since tom Brady was the starting QB in NE:

Tom Brady career win% 77% (Absolutely absurd by the way)
Patriots win % in games he did not start: 68% (Also absurd...)

So yeah when Bill had a great QB or a mediocre QB he is doing a lot of winning. He gets a bump from Brady. My question is how much winning will Brady do if he goes elsewhere and has mere mortals running the team? Now he 42 freaking years old so it's not like you are getting a REAL taste of what he could have done if he went elsewhere. But I would like to see if he can have a Montana like effect on another franchise.

Also I didn't realize how rarely Brady misses a damn game. The sample size for him not playing is pretty freaking small.

 

Im a firm believer in chemistry. I think its underrated. Splitting BB and TB and trying to project what might happen is difficult, interesting, but difficult.

I think BB in NE if given another QB would still be able to construct a winning team, emphasis on team.

TB, on the other hand, would have to damn near be put in a mirror situation to be as good as he is under BB in NE, in my opinion. Brady would have to have a run game and a top-notch offensive line elsewhere and that is a statement of the obvious, but its true.

Lots of talk around this subject on radio and TV along with the WWW. I suppose its because maybe there is a chance there will be a change in NE, but in my opinion, I highly doubt it. I think Tom stays in NE.

 

they brought back largely the same roster and the expectations were similar to the 16-0 team the year before. 5 win difference is pretty substantial.

 

yes, that

 

That was bad luck as they were 11-5 that season

 

that 68% winning percentage is a small sample size, as you noted.

Im not saying that I think that the organizational success is solely from Brady, Both of those guys have had a fairly equal hand in the run in my opinion. Brady obviously meshed well w/ Bill's vision or Bill was smart enough to adapt it to what Brady was bringing, probably a combo of the two there as well.

 

So I would give Brady more credit than that. I think your opinion of what would be needed for him to thrive is true but only for his first couple years in the league and now recently his last year in the league. He had seasons where he threw for 4800 yards and 50 TDs. problem was that they didnt win SBs in the seasons where he had the huge stats.

 

He went to high school with your grandson, correct?

 

Honestly I am not trying to kill Brady here. I have him as a top 2 QB all time and I think weather he is #1 or #2 is completely subjective. This has obviously been a great marriage between the two. I admit for years I was a Brady hater. But I did come around when I actually bothered to watch him and he simply gave me no other choice by being so damn good. But he has never played for a coach in the NFL who wasn't the best coach in the history of the NFL. I would really love to see what he could do in another situation. Because if he can step into a new team and play at a high level it would go a long way towards making him a clear cut #1 GOAT. Honestly at this point though his skills are declining due to age and I am not sure it would be fair to judge what he does elsewhere.

 

Half Lyman's age is pretty old.

 

Half of my age is STILL a bigger number than your IQ.

 

You're 400 years old.

 

Well, not quite. But 200 is a bigger number than 36.

 

Saints want Drew Brees back for as long as he wants to play


Drew Brees‘ future is as uncertain as it has been since perhaps 2006 when he was a free agent coming off shoulder surgery and searching for a new home. The Saints have made it clear, though, that they want the quarterback as part of their team as long as he wants to keep playing.

“No different than it’s been the last few years,” Saints General Manager Mickey Loomis said, via Mike Triplett of ESPN.

Brees, though, becomes a free agent in March, and he turned 41 last week.

Brees showed in 2019 he still has what it takes and would have a robust market if he chose to enter free agency. He missed five games with a thumb injury but in 11 games completed 74.3 percent of his passes for 2,979 yards, 27 touchdowns and four interceptions.

“It’s easy to take him for granted. Yet, I don’t take him for granted,” Loomis said. “Look, if any of us are surprised at what he does, then we’re just not very smart.”

The Saints currently do not have a quarterback under contract for 2020 with Taysom Hill and Teddy Bridgewater also scheduled to become free agents.

There is little doubt Brees would command huge interest from the networks if he decided to become a TV analyst. Thus, Brees first has to decide what he wants to do.

The Saints know who they want for their quarterback if Brees wants to keep playing.

source; NBC

 

Dolphins fully expect Ryan Fitzpatrick back next season


Quarterback Ryan Fitzpatrick said at the end of the 2019 season that he didn’t expect “a difficult decision” about returning to play in 2020, but he hasn’t provided any update to his plans since the start of January.

Whenever that update does come, Dolphins General Manager Chris Grier expects it to include word that Fitzpatrick will be back with the team. According to multiple reporters, Grier said Wednesday that he “fully expects” the veteran quarterback to play out the final year of his contract.

Fitzpatrick said in December that he feels great and still loves playing, which provides plenty of support for Grier’s expectation that Fitzpatrick will be back.

If that’s the case, it will leave the makeup of the rest of the quarterback room as the biggest question for the Dolphins. Josh Rosen is under contract for 2020, but there’s no shortage of speculation about the Dolphins picking a quarterback early in the first round. Grier’s unlikely to share the team’s thoughts on that matter, but it’s probably not a bad bet.

source; NBC

 

Eli Manning will hold Friday retirement press conference


Eli Manning‘s NFL career appears to have reached the end.

ESPN reports that the Giants quarterback will hold a news conference Friday to announce his retirement.

It is not a surprise as signs have pointed toward Manning calling it quits.

He did not want to finish his career as a backup and didn’t want to play elsewhere, leaving him with retirement as his only option.

Manning, 39, lost his job to rookie Daniel Jones in 2019. Manning started only four games, going 1-3, and passing for 1,042 yards with six touchdowns and five interceptions.

If this is it, Manning ends his 16-year career with a 117-117 record, two Super Bowl rings, 57,023 passing yards and 366 touchdowns.

His career will create an interesting Hall of Fame debate as he made only four Pro Bowls and was never an All-Pro but twice was named Super Bowl MVP.

In NFL history, Manning’s career marks rank seventh in passing yards, seventh in touchdowns, seventh in completions (4,895), sixth in attempts (8,119), 45th in passer rating (84.1), 43rd in completion percentage (60.3) and 12th in interceptions (244).

Manning earned more money playing football than anyone else in the history of the league at $252.3 million.

UPDATE 5:13 P.M.: The Giants confirmed the news in a press release.

source; NBC

 

He deserves to be in the HOF for fleecing the Giants out more money than any other player.