This about sums up my thoughts. From Bleacher Report: https://bleacherreport.com/articles...om&utm_campaign=editorial&utm_medium=referral
Joel Bitonio T.J. Carrie Nick Chubb Myles Garrett Rashard Higgins Dontrell Hilliard Chris Hubbard Jarvis Landry Baker Mayfield Terrance Mitchell David Njoku Larry Ogunjobi Damarious Randall Damion Ratley Greg Robinson Joe Schobert Chad Thomas J.C. Tretter Denzel Ward These are the players on the roster this season that were around last year, too. Question when evaluating Freddie and the coaching staff: how have they improved?
Brandin Bryant Stephen Carlson Drew Forbes Jamie Gillan Porter Gustin J.T. Hassell D'Ernest Johnson Sheldrick Redwine Austin Seibert Sione Takitaki Greedy Williams Mack Wilson These are the rookies added to the team by John Dorsey. Question when evaluating Dorsey and the scouting department: how have they impacted the game and which piece(s) can be building blocks for the future?
Eli Ankou Odell Beckham Jr. (trade) Pharoah Brown Juston Burris Bryan Cox Tae Davis Garrett Gilbert Demetrius Harris KhaDarel Hodge Kareem Hunt Eric Kush Kendall Lamm Justin McCray (trade) Eric Murray (trade) Sheldon Robinson Ricky Seals-Jones Adarius Taylor Taywan Taylor (trade) Wyatt Teller (trade) Tavierre Thomas Olivier Vernon (trade) Justin Zimmer These are the players added to the team via free agency or trades. Question when evaluating coaching staff and front office: how have they fit, contributed, and can they be built around moving forward?
The Trade: Revisited New York Giants got: Kevin Zeitler, Jabrill Peppers, #17 overall pick, and #95 overall pick. Cleveland Browns got: Odell Beckham Jr., Olivier Vernon Up first... Jabrill Peppers. The Browns essentially voided themselves in the safety position this offseason, bringing in a litany of Kansas City left-overs via free agency and trade, signing Jermaine Whitehead, and veteran Morgan Burnett. Peppers (11 games): 76 tackles, 5 TFLs, 5 passes defensed, 1 inteception, 1 defensive TD, currently on IR Morgan Burnett (8 games): 41 tackles, 4 TFLs, 2 passes defensed, 1 interception, currently on IR Jermaine Whitehead (8 games): 41 tackles, 1 TFL, 2 passes defensed, 1 interception, 18 fans of the team threatened with murder, currently unemployed Up next... Olivier Vernon. The Browns went all-in for Vernon, letting Emmanuel Ogbah go via trade for safety Eric Murray (22 tackles, 3 TFLs, 1 QB hit, 1 pass defensed). Vernon was set to transition from stand-up linebacker in the 34 back to his natural position as rush end in 43 as well as be the #2 guy -- instead of *the* guy -- playing opposite Myles Garrett. Vernon (9 games): 24 tackles, 4 TFLs, 10 QB hits, 3.0 sacks Ogbah (10 games): 32 tackles, 6 TFLs, 11 QB hits, 5.5 sacks Then there's fan favorite, Kevin Zeitler, who was moved as part of the deal for Beckham. Regarded as a Top 5 guard, he was deemed replaceable by incoming, top pick, Austin Corbett (#33 overall) who failed to win out in a crowded field of nobodies and was later traded for a late round pick in 2021. Zeitler: 13 starts, 1.5 sacks allowed, 1 penalty accepted Eric Kush: 7 starts, 1.5 sacks allowed, 4 penalties accepted Wyatt Teller: 7 starts: 1.0 sacks allowed, 2 penalties accepted Justin McCray: 4 starts, 6.5 sacks allowed, 4 penalties accepted A little messy to decipher, as McCray spent time starting at left and right tackle during the course of the season. Then, the polarizing Odell Beckham Jr. The "silver bullet" for the Kitchens/Monken downfield assault that was going to outpace the 1999 St. Louis Rams. Essentially, they replaced the projected production of Rashard Higgins and last year's surprise add, Breshard Perriman. Odell (14 games): 121 targets, 67 receptions (55.4%), 910 yards (13.6 YPC, 7.5 YPT), 2 touchdowns Higgins (2018, final 8): 31 targets, 23 receptions (74.2%), 328 yards (14.3 YPC, 10.6 YPT), 3 touchdowns Perriman (2019, 12 games): 49 targets, 24 receptions (49.0%), 409 yards (17.0 YPC, 8.3 YPT), 5 touchdowns The missing pieces of the trade... #17 and #95 overall in the 2019 draft, Very tough to go back and pinpoint exactly who the Browns could have taken, and given the gift of 20/20 hindsight, it's easy to point to players who've performed well thus far near those spots. The Giants took interior lineman Dexter Lawrence of Clemson to play NT in the 34 -- obviously not a player Cleveland would have taken. At #95, they took Oshane Ximines to play rush linebacker -- again, not a prospect Cleveland (in the 4-2-5) would be interested in. However... some names around those picks... at #17: Brian Burns (#16 Carolina) who won defensive rookie of the month in September. Not having Vernon, they likely would have been in the market for a rush end and could have moved up a slot or two. Knowing the safety issues, Darnell Savage Jr. was picked at #21 by Green Bay and Johnathan Abrams at #27 by Oakland. Abram was injured early, but Savage has had a productive first year. Offensive tackles Andre Dillard and Tytus Howard were picked #22 and #23, respectively.
Haha... I do plan to start ironically using the hashtag "ThanksDorsey". In all honesty though, Sashi had his fair share of misses, too. It's more the overtly "our guys" (e.g., the "real football" players) theme that Dorsey has had since he got here. They're poised to let a Pro Bowl linebacker walk -- not because he's demanding $15 million a year but because the wrong guy drafted him.
Sam Darnold 2018: 57.7% comp., 220.4 YPG, 17 TD (4.1%), 15 INT (3.6%), 77.6 QB rating, 6.9 YPA, 2.3 SPG (sacks per game) 2019: 61.7% comp., 240.2 YPG, 17 TD (4.5%), 12 INT (3.2%), 84.3 QB rating, 7.0 YPA, 2.6 SPG Josh Allen 2018: 52.8% comp., 172.8 YPG, 10 TD (3.1%), 12 INT (3.8%), 67.9 QB rating, 6.5 YPA, 2.3 SPG 2019: 59.3% comp., 205.4 YPG, 18 TD (4.2%), 9 INT (2.1%), 84.6 QB rating, 6.7 YPA, 2.4 SPG Lamar Jackson 2018: 58.2% comp., 171.6 YPG, 6 TD (3.5%), 3 INT (1.8%), 84.5 QB rating, 7.1 YPA, 2.3 SPG 2019: 66.2% comp., 206.4 YPG, 33 TD (8.9%), 6 INT (1.6%), 112.8 QB rating, 7.8 YPA, 1.6 SPG Baker Mayfield 2018: 63.8% comp., 266.1 YPG, 27 TD (5.6%), 14 INT (2.9%), 93.7 QB rating, 7.7 YPA, 1.8 SPG 2019: 60.1% comp., 239.7 YPG, 17 TD (3.6%), 17 INT (3.6%), 78.7 QB rating, 7.1 YPG, 2.4 SPG One of those guys is a tight end playing the QB position and improving greatly. Another one is a running back playing the QB position who was told in the offseason by his own coaches he couldn't throw an NFL-caliber pass and had to re-tool his entire delivery and motion in a single offseason and he's now -- if not the MVP leader -- one of two guys vying for it. If you needed any more reason to fire an entire offensive coaching staff... there it is, fellas.
Baker's got the potential to be a better quarterback than those four guys listed... he needs his "superstar" teammates to make routine plays and help him out.
A good start would be to stop throwing the ball as if Lew Alcidor (Kareem Abdul Jabbar for you younger guys) was his go to wide receiver(s).
It could be they're also tired of Baker's bullshit. Leadership comes from more than the coaching staff.
Fair point but they probably still see that as a coaching issue. Belichick coaches Brady as hard as any player on the team.
I don't see how it could possibly be worse for this poor pathetic franchise?? Good lord, we have our best players on the field begging for other teams to make a deal and get them the hell out of Cleveland.... Fuck Freddie.
I'm not gonna give up on Bake, because I know he's a gamer, and I know he's a better QB than what we've seen in 2019. That said, WTF is Mayfield doing? The overthrow INT in the endzone was ridiculous, and it honestly looked like he didn't give a shit afterwards. I'm very worried about our "franchise" QB.....Feels like he's way more interested in capitalizing on endorsements than winning football games. Just my take.
Not possible. I brought play by play film review here last year with concern over his accuracy, and was told I was flat wrong, and that his accuracy was phenomenal, and one of his unimpeachable qualities. I was also told that his stats, in conjunction with Freddie's playcalling, from the last few games of the season last year would not only directly translate to this year, but would only continue to improve. I was told that questioning making your RB coach into your HC in the blink of an eye was so ridiculous that I couldn't possibly be a sane, rational individual. Seeing some sanity around here is genuinely refreshing. I'm just genuinely sad that the Browns have to lose, in order to see it. It would be fantastic to get a winning Browns team and a Browns board that could discuss issues rationally. That would make (almost) everyone happy.
I like Freddie, but his ineptitude is on display weekly, and one can only assume the players see it too. Maybe Monkin was a poor match, but whatever the case, Freddie fails to inspire confidence, in himself, in what he's doing, thus one assumes in his team. I think he was very good as an assistant coach, and maybe some day he'll learn what it takes to be a HC, but in my book he's quite possibly our biggest problem. I firmly believe a strong HC would have had this team in the playoffs and wouldn't have been blown out of 3 games, with this talent. There is clearly a lack of discipline, and of accountability. It makes me appreciate Gregg Willliams a lot more than I did last year. Let me be clear, I am not advocating for Williams as our HC, just acknowledging, his strong hand at the wheel was a component missing this season. One that cannot be allowed to continue, and frankly I think that means Freddie has to go.
