NCAAF - NEWS & NOTES

Discussion in 'College Football' started by Willie, Nov 29, 2015.

  1. LAOJoe Assistant Coach Manager Patreon Silver Maple Leafs Eagles

    Man you don't get it. They were in the bowl coalition thing and THEY STILL ARE in whatever form it is now. They always needed to be ranked high enough to get in. They needed to be above Penn State and/or Florida. Also the Bowls didnt have a choice. They HAD to take the teams the did by rule. The only bowl with a choice was the Rose Bowl who could pick any substitution they wanted for Ohio State from the Big Ten as long as they were ranked near the top one remaining. They went with the top ranked one in Wisconsin.

    Cotton Bowl couldn't have taken the at-large they wanted. One was reserved for the best non-power conference champ, Memphis, and the other was for the highest remaining ranked team, Penn State. There was no room for Notre Dame, and crying about their prestige and money seems pretty. Ya it sucks when Virginia gets in because of tie ins but next team up would be Utah (although at that point I'd put Notre Dame). If you are a top 10 team you are almost always getting in. They already bend over backwards for Notre Dame because they are such a prestigious team. No matter the conference you pretty much need to be top 10 to be in because other ones are usually accounted for. If ND wanted the Orange Bowl so badly they could have joined the ACC and given up all their other perks.

    Just look up the bowl rules and don't be ignorant. And before you say something, because that word triggers people who, ironically, are ignorant about its meaning, ignorant means "lacking knowledge, awareness or information about a particular thing".
     
  2. LAOJoe Assistant Coach Manager Patreon Silver Maple Leafs Eagles

    First, check your source. They aren't official. Secondly that is just pecking order. The champ gets the top bowl to prevent the top bowl from passing them over. For instance if Virginia beat Clemson then the Orange is obligated to take Virginia even though Clemson is who they'd want. In that case Clemson would have knocked Penn State from the Cotton Bowl.

    Officially, if the ACC champ is in the playoffs, the Orange Bowl and CFP both decided that the highest remaining ranked ACC team would be selected and that if no other team is ranked then the ACC gets to choose. Its still contracted to the ACC.

    Also notice how the other opponent is Big Ten/SEC/Notre Dame? If Notre Dame was ranked higher than the highest remaining team from those conferences then they'd be in. Also if I'm not mistaken it's done in cycles and this is he beginning of one so in future years ND may be able to get in as long as they reach a certain ranking threshold, regardless of the other conferences, but don't quote me on that.
     
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  3. Catfish Guest

    i did look it up before this post bc i was curious to how it all worked. look at my other post. it doesn't state anything about any #2 in the ACC (Virginia). It says ACC. i read the bowl tie-in rules and posted about it. they don't make it clear as your saying. For Memphis-PSU they say AT-LARGE. They don't say best non-conference champion. It's not clear cut they way 2 sites have it. That's my issue. I'm sure LAOJOE you're right, but on ESPN last night and stuff I'm reading online just doesn't state what you're saying. They're leaving it out like the AT-Large Example i mentioned on here.

    And regardless of how you feel about ND and I can tell you dislike them, they ALWAYS mention TV ratings and ticket sales! Always. The bowl coalition wants a full stadium and tv dollars, so yes, ND matters there. If it was XYZ vs ISU - who the hell watches that game or attends it? Put ND there and it sells out and thousands around the country watch it. I even read something this morning that the last time they were invited to the bowl they are in now was the second most fans the stadium ever had for this bowl game! ND has that ability. Not ISU!
     
  4. Catfish Guest

    But the Big 10/SEC/ND tie in was against the ACC. I noticed that this morning. So then how does that work? Lets just say ND was ranked 9th. So ND-Virginia? UVA taking the ACC slot and ND takes the ND slot over a SEC or Big 10 school ? I do see your point on Clemson losing and them taking the PSU slot in the Cotton Bowl.
     
  5. Catfish Guest

    i think the issue is a lot of bowl say "committee selection" after a tie-in. who the hell knows what they're thinking? HAHAHAHAHA
     
  6. Catfish Guest

    Crikey. So UVA getting a gift to be ranked #25th, made the case for them to be as the #2 in the Orange Bowl? Oh well.

    Tossing out the conf tie-ins and handshakes, i would've loved to see a rematch vs Michigan. Oh well. Time for the Camping Equipment Bowl in 2 weeks!
     
  7. Catfish Guest

    I think my issue is not ND in this bowl game as they projected it weeks ago vs Texas. My issue is the opponent and their record. I just think a 10-2 ND can play someone better than 7-5 ISU with all the tie-ins, etc. sorry for hijacking the thread early yesterday morning. Go ND.
     
  8. LAOJoe Assistant Coach Manager Patreon Silver Maple Leafs Eagles

    The committee also only ranks teams and thus indirectly selects the teams for the major bowls. After that most Bowls do what they want.
     
  9. LAOJoe Assistant Coach Manager Patreon Silver Maple Leafs Eagles

    I forgot to post my updated top 25. Here is my top 25(+1). I only ranked 15 or 20 teams before now. Last week I did find 25 teams but 21-25 weren't ordered. I found 26 deserving teams so I decided to push it to 26. Sorry Air Force and SMU. Close but not that close. If Navy loses then back to 25.
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    Will-i don't think it happens the way CBS had it, but i do think an 8, 12 or 16 team playoff is coming somehow.
     
  13. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    After the way things worked out this season, I doubt the expansion would gain any headway.
     
  14. Catfish Guest

    only bc teams lost last weekend. if the chips fell another way and Clemson, OSU or LSU lost, it would be chaotic. I just think the powers to be want to make everyone happy with an expanded playoffs. the money is certainly there as well and they love the almighty dollar. $$
     
  15. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    Heisman Trophy 2019: LSU quarterback Joe Burrow wins by a landslide

    LSU quarterback Joe Burrow won the 2019 Heisman Trophy on Saturday, Dec. 14, beating out fellow finalists Oklahoma QB Jalen Hurts, Ohio State QB Justin Fields and Ohio State DE Chase Young.

    Burrow has had a phenomenal statistical campaign and led the Tigers to the College Football Playoff No. 1 seed. Burrow has thrown for 4,715 yards and 48 touchdowns this season to just six interceptions.

    Heisman Trophy 2019: LSU QB Joe Burrow, voting results
    Here is the official vote count for the 2019 Heisman Trophy:

    1. LSU QB Joe Burrow: 2,608
    2. Oklahoma QB Jalen Hurts: 762
    3. Ohio State QB Justin Fields: 747
    4. Ohio State DE Chase Young: 643
    5. Wisconsin RB Jonathan Taylor: 189
    6. Ohio State RB J.K. Dobbins: 114
    7. Clemson QB Trevor Lawrence: 88
    8. Oklahoma State RB Chubba Hubbard: 68
    9. Clemson RB Travis Etienne: 25
    10. Alabama QB Tua Tagovailoa: 24

    Burrow is the first LSU Tiger to win the Heisman Trophy in 60 years ⁠— Billy Cannon won the award in 1959. In addition to his eye-popping stats, Burrow played some of his best ball against the best teams. LSU beat Texas, Florida, Auburn, Alabama and Georgia while they were ranked in the top 10. He tossed 15 touchdown passes over those five wins.

    Fields is the second straight Ohio State quarterback to be named a Heisman finalist ⁠— Dwayne Haskins earned the distinction last year. The first-year Buckeye has thrown 40 touchdown passes to just one interception on the season, and while he came up empty this time, there's a decent chance Fields could hoist the Heisman Trophy in the future.

    source; NCAA
     
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    i didn't realize he only played 1 year of college ball. amazing. he broke troy smith's heisman record by largest margin of votes and oj simpson's record of most votes ever. wow.
     
  17. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

    Hayden Fry, the Texan who revived Iowa football and became a Hawkeye State institution over two decades as a Big Ten coach, has died. He was 90.

    Fry's family announced through the University of Iowa that the former coach died Tuesday with his family at his side after a long battle with cancer. He had been living in the Dallas area with his wife, Shirley.

    "We are proud to know that our father's life had a positive influence on so many people, the players, the coaches, and the fans who played for, worked with, and supported his long and successful coaching career," the family said in a statement. "His legend will live forever with the people he touched and inspired, and the programs he led to greater heights."

    Fry, a native of Eastland, Texas, had never been to Iowa before taking over the Hawkeyes in 1979, hired by then-athletic director Bump Elliott, the former Michigan star who died earlier this month.

    The Hawkeyes had slogged through 17 consecutive years without a winning season when Fry arrived. He changed everything. He had the uniforms redesigned to make them look more like the black-and-gold ones worn by the Pittsburgh Steelers, the NFL's dominant team at the time. The familiar Tigerhawk logo was unveiled during Fry's tenure. He had the visitors' locker room painted pink, a tradition that still stands. Roaming the sidelines in his familiar dark sunglasses, Fry coached the Hawkeyes for 20 seasons, winning 238 games and three Big Ten championships.

    "Though Hayden was born in Texas and moved there more recently to be closer to our family, his love for the University of Iowa, his players and coaches, the people of Iowa, and the state of Iowa, is well known," the family said. "Hayden often shared, 'I'll Always Be a Hawkeye.'"

    Fry's greatest season at Iowa was 1985, when the Hawkeyes were No. 1 in the AP rankings for five weeks and had Heisman Trophy runner-up Chuck Long at quarterback. Iowa finished 10-2 as Big Ten champions and ranked 10th in the country. He coached three Rose Bowls with Iowa, though he never won one.

    "Iowa football reached new heights under Hayden Fry, and has continued that success under Kirk Ferentz, one of the many outstanding coaches who served as a member of his staff," Iowa athletic director Gary Barta said in a statement. "Hayden's legacy not only lives on through Iowa football, but also through the coaches and players who had the privilege to be associated with his teams."

    Fry started his coaching career at Odessa (Texas) High School in the 1950s, not long after playing quarterback at Baylor. His first college head coaching job was at SMU in 1962, and he was instrumental and desegregating the team and the Southwest Conference as both coach and athletic director. In 1965, Jerry LeVias became the first black football player to sign a scholarship with a team in the Southwest Conference.

    Fry went 49-66-1 in 11 seasons with the Mustangs and then did a six-year stint at North Texas, where he went 40-23-3.

    At Iowa, Fry not only produced winning teams, but also a long line of successful head coaches who worked and played for him.

    Bill Snyder (Kansas State), Barry Alvarez (Wisconsin), Bob Stoops (Oklahoma), Bret Bielema (Wisconsin and Arkansas) and Ferentz were among the 13 Fry assistants and players who became college head coaches.

    "Hayden Fry is a college football icon and an Iowa legend," Ferentz said. "His Hall of Fame career is well known, but personally, he will always be the man who took a chance on me at the start of my coaching career. I was proud to coach with him and honored to succeed him when he retired. He's been a great mentor and a true friend. I am forever grateful to him."

    Stoops on Twitter called Fry: "A man that we all loved and revered."

    Fry retired as Iowa's winningest coach in 1998, a mark since surpassed by Ferentz. He was first diagnosed with prostate cancer before his final season at Iowa and he did his best to keep the news from his players and coaches while he received treatment.

    "My doctor at the hospital said, 'Coach, you may be the luckiest guy in the world. You're almost 70 years old and you're in real good physical condition other than the cancer.' He said I could live another five years. That was 16 years ago, and I'm still here," Fry told the Cedar Rapids (Iowa) Gazette in 2015, when he was living in Nevada.

    Fry is survived by his wife, four sons, a daughter, a stepson and a stepdaughter. Plans for a memorial service are pending, the family said.
     
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