Bears v Rams Gadget Bowl Gamethread

Nagy has no feel for the game. None. It’s almost as if he’s picking random plays out of hat.

 

Nagy is still trying to force his vision of what this offense should be instead of calling plays they can execute.

 

Let's take out Nagy being the HC , if he was a OC on any team would his job be in serious jeopardy ? or even fired at this point ?

 

Yep. He'd be blamed for not only the terrible situational play calling but also Trubs regression. As an OC he probably wouldn't last the season.

 

And yet there's zero chance if the clown show continues he's fired now or next year.

 

Bears ran 74 plays last night and averaged 3.6 yards per play.

So yes.

 

blang you made a good point on the visor thread that if Mitch had a bad hip why would Nagy call an RPO on 3rd down in the 3rd quarter?
It's either the injury was fake, or he doesn't have a clue to what he's doing and it was just a bad decision. Here's the rub If he wanted to just change the QB to try and stimulate the offense then do it, but instead he had to coddle the QB by whispering in his hear his decision to pull him. This means that above everything else he doesn't bring to the field now how emotionally weak he must be off of it. That approach IMO seems to only flatline that mental growth he needs and makes me wonder if that same approach is flatlining his game on the field as well. It's like Mitch grab a juicebox and everything will be alright.

 

It does seem Nagy's coddling of Trubs could actually be a detrimental factor in Trub's lack of development and/or regression.

 

Without consequence, there can be no progression.

 

Had time to think it over and I just want to say.....this team sucks.

 

I take it the point here is that Nagy has been too easy on Mitch? Which leads on to saying he should've been harder on him? I honestly don't think yelling or getting in his face would've made any difference to his development. It has never been an attitude problem with Mitch, its never been a work ethic problem either. Everything I've ever seen written about him is stellar in those areas. You use the stick ultimately to create urgency and heightened levels of effort. He's already maxed out in those areas.

Sometimes its not down to how hard you try, some guys just can't make it. I feel bad for the guy, he looked totally crushed in the post game presser. He's put his heart and soul into succeeding and it looked to me like it finally hit him that he's not gonna make it in the NFL. Knowing you've done everything you can and still failed can make it extra tough in the short term, that's what it looked like on sunday night. Hopefully it can give him some piece of mind in the long run tho..

 

agree completely

 

This is true.

But if Nagy did have a different approach, perhaps some of the mechanical mistakes (i.e. throwing off the wrong foot) that we see Mitch making constantly could have been remedied. I'm not talking about the lack of situational awareness and overall stupidity Mitch has demonstrated, cuz that cannot be fixed. But mechanics can be fixed by the right coach.

 

One of the more ridiculous things Nagy has said in recent pressers(and there's been a lot of competition) was when he said he never works on mechanics/technique with Trubisky cos by the time guys get to the pros they know how to throw.

Would take too long to list all the stupid in that quote, but suffice to say, an idiotic statement from a guy in over his head.

 

Then this kind of supports mine and Tuna's point

 

Err, it does?

Nagy not working on mechanics with Trubisky wasn't because he was coddling him, it was because he didn't feel it was his job and/or didn't know how.

A guy being brought in on the explicit understanding one of his primary roles is to develop the QB position and then not developing him, isn't coddling, its negligence.

 

When it's perfectly clear that Mitch needs work on his mechanics and the coach isn't doing anything about it, yes it is negligance. But given how we've seen him treat Mitch, trying to shield him from negativity, rumors of dumbing down the playbook, the whispering sweet nothings, I do believe the coddling plays a role in Nagy choosing not to address these shortcomings.

 

Ev you raised a good point, I've never been one on yelling as a motivator quite the contrary because that drives you further away, but instead, sheer disappointment always worked on me. Just ask some ladies I've been with . I think everyone is different but this coddling is clear and present. I didn't see the interview but you said he looked "crushed" in the interview. Well, good it's about fucking time because sometimes you have to hit bottom before you can claw your way back up. I don't know if he has what it takes to make that climb at this point it's a little late in the game for that. Guessing on Nagy's approach with him he may be too emotionally weak for the game. Mechanic's is something that I thought the QB coach was for is it not? I also thought for a moment that maybe Nagy is pushing his system ahead of Mitch's progression, but that hasn't been the case as this offense looks totally different than the one that opened the season last year, and is now Nagy 101. While Nagy can't be expected to be HC OC and QBC he does have to monitor and take notice of his lack of development does he not?

 

Mitch’s issues aren’t that he lacks proper mechanics. The problem is his mechanics break down too often. Those breakdowns more often then not come from indecision and pocket awareness. Not from lack of practice.

Every practice QB’s run drills where they work on footwork and technique. So maybe you are taking Nagy’s comment too literally. The team doesn’t have the time, under CBA rules, to run mini QB camps during the season.