World Cup Thread

Discussion in 'World Cup' started by LAOJoe, Jun 6, 2018.

  1. skinny123 Guest

    2-0 Final US.
     
  2. Catfish Guest

    happy they won, but have they acted afterwards with the speeches and at the parade was a letdown. then the video of the backup goalie surfaces and she's talking trash like Mike Tyson. Kind of pathetic. I expected better out of the US.
     
  3. dlinebass5 M.V.P. Bears

    To what video are you referring, Catfish?

    I have seen absolutely nothing wrong with what the USWNT has done. They are the best in the world, and have proved that day in and day out. They have been criticized for even the slightest of things. To their point, they have been criticized for behavior that male teams get away with routinely and without a second thought.
     
  4. Catfish Guest

  5. dlinebass5 M.V.P. Bears

    What's wrong with that, though? Who knows what she's talking about. Maybe she is drunk. Why does it matter? Do you feel threatened? The key obviously doesn't do anything. Everyone knows that. She's quoting / mocking a really popular social video from a few years ago. There's absolutely nothing to this.

    I'm sure, as a Philly fan, you can compare that to some of the behavior seen during the Eagles' parade, and realize that this is a horrible double-standard. The men weren't criticized for anything like this - they never are.
     
  6. Catfish Guest


    it's not just the video dline:

    i don't have to feel threatened. it's not just me dline. many soccer fans saw the video and were baffled by her actions - sober or drunk. many people feel the same way i do.

    bc the men's soccer team never wins. haha. The EAGLES parade...? Jason Kelce's "nobody likes us" speech was brought on by hours and hours of drinking. he got off the bus right in front of us and chugged a quarter bottle of champagne. it's far better than the video above. the US player comes off as a rambling drunken fool. she's comes off as a bad rapper. why would you even say those things? what purpose did it serve?

    and the behavior goes back to after the game 2 players were holding the flag. for a photo, they dropped the flag and stepped on it. O'Hara ran in and grabbed the flag off the ground.

    and then another player criticized a former player and called her "homophobic" for her views and not wanting to wear a gay pride jersey. did she need to rehash that entire event? it happened over a year ago?

    and at the ESPY's a little kid gave Megan Rapinoe a small soccer ball to sign during a tv commercial. she didn't even look at the kid and seemed pissed as she signed it and handed it back to him.
     
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  7. dlinebass5 M.V.P. Bears

    None of this is true, though, Catfish. It's a result of SEVERE character assassination by people who didn't want to see these women succeed, due to ideological differences. I don't know from what source you're getting your information, but if the context of that video is any clue (covered in biased commentary and nonsense), I'd be willing to bet that you're viewing this all from an incredibly slanted lens. I don't have the time right now to try and present the ACTUAL events in ways that remove bias and subjectivity, but I can say definitively that the takes you provided are coming from a position of severe slant and bias.

    That team represented the United States, and was arguably the most dominant sports team this country has had on a global stage since the basketball teams of a few decades-ish ago. They have endured criticism that would NEVER be levied against any male sports team. If you think that the USWNT did anything worse than a Super Bowl winning team does in the wake of their win, I would encourage you to just review the events of those parades, etc. I can guarantee you, the social media accounts of a Super Bowl winning NFL team are at the very least comparable, if not far worse. But the women get the criticism. And that's EXACTLY what they've been saying since the beginning, and EXACTLY why people have hated on them, anyway.
     
  8. Catfish Guest

    the things i said happened dline. don't tell me they didn't happen. wtf.

    you don't even know me to suggest what side im coming from? this is not a man vs woman issue that you seem to want to make it. im not talking about a men's championship parade. this thread is about the World Cup! slanted lens? severe slant and bias? nope. i call it as i see it. i see a player acting like an asshole so i called her out. Megan Rapinoe like Colin Kaepernik kneeling and not saluting the flag BROUGHT IT ON HERSELF. I don't support Kaepernik either. Players dropping and stepping on the flag brought it on themselves. Rapinoe taking shots at President Trump and refusing to go to the White House made it about herself and brought it on herself. I did nothing dline. They and Rapinoe especially did it to themselves. No slant. No bias or anything else. They brought the media onslaught on themselves for the past year with Rapinoe and not saluting the flag as the start of the hate towards them. this video of the goalie just adds to it. Many people, besides me and not some slant or bias feel the same way. They acted like a bunch of assholes at times during and after the WC. And the celebrations up what 13 goals in game 1? Was that necessary ? No, it wasn't.

    As an American, I'm happy they won. I watched all the games, but how they act during and after the WC i call into question.
     
  9. dlinebass5 M.V.P. Bears

    Many people are wrong. You are wrong. I don't have the time to correct each thing line item by line item. Perspective matters - the women on the USWNT are receiving criticism that is absolutely due to the slant through which they're being projected, and due to the fact that they're women. Maybe I'll come back to educate when I have time, but I would absolutely challenge your sources, Catfish. This is the quote of yours that confirms this:

    You clearly do not have an understanding of all the facts in this situation. I read one article and got everything I need, and read multiple others to corroborate that - if you didn't all of the facts, then I'd question your source(s).
     
  10. Catfish Guest

    what makes you right because YOU SAY YOU'RE RIGHT ? That's not how it works. Maybe you're WRONG? My stance has nothing to do with their woman or not. Like Kaepernick, im against anyone who takes a knee during the National Anthem ! I'm against anyone acting like an asshole or stepping on the flag. I have no idea where you come off on this issue. I didn't say anything about them being woman.
     
  11. Catfish Guest

    enlighten me then professor. i read an article about it too. what am i missing? so it wasn't about the one player refusing to wear the gay pride jersey and her views on lesbians? it's not about several USWNT members being lesbians and two teammates dating each other?

    ALL I DID was post a video about the 1 goalie acting like an asshole. you have twisted and turned this into a fiasco and gender war and they are being criticized because they're woman. i never said one thing about that. you did and spun this this into a mess. so Rapinoe doesn't bring heat on herself for taking a knee? Bullshit she does. That has nothing to do with the fact that she is a woman. She brought it on herself. Her Trump bashing? Not a gender issue. She's against him in the White House so she won't go visit when he teammates do. That's on her. The infamous pay differential and equality she bitched about at the parade is a separate issue all together.
     
  12. dlinebass5 M.V.P. Bears

    No one kneeled during the World Cup.

    The flag in question was dropped accidentally by a teammate, and Rapinoe was walking next to her. Her teammates immediately picked up the flag. The two incidents were not connected in any way - Rapinoe wasn't aware of the flag being dropped. If you're just looking at the photograph (as every right-wing lens portrays), you won't see this. Watch the video, and you will.

    A former USWNT development member was called up to the US team, and turned down the opportunity because she refused to wear a rainbow-colored uniform. She expressed very directly that this was because of her anti-gay beliefs. When conservative media pundits heard the story, they marketed it as the USWNT excluding her due to her Christianity. Multiple members of the team are very open about their Christian beliefs, including praying on the pitch before / after games. A member of the USWNT called out these media pundits and this former development member, setting the record straight.

    Catfish, your facts are wrong. Your understanding of the context and circumstances surrounding these facts are wrong. Based on the specific information you provided, it is incredibly likely that you are getting your information from severely biased sources (again, the video source you provided supports this notion).

    Educate yourself. The lens through which you are viewing this is informing your opinion, not the facts themselves.
     
  13. dlinebass5 M.V.P. Bears

    No, but you did say that you had absolutely no problem with displays such as those from players at Super Bowl parades - even excusing a Philly player for the exact same thing that you're criticizing a women's team member for.

    You didn't have to say that this is a gender issue. You made it a gender issue by judging from different standards two different genders in the same scenario.

    I get it, you don't like it. You're mad that I'm calling you out for being sexist, and judging the USWNT off a higher standard than any men's team. You're mad that I'm calling you out for having incomplete, slanted information. Sorry, bud. You're wrong. You can be mad, but you're also wrong.

    Unless you're routinely pissed off at every stupid man making a fool of himself celebrating sporting events, you have no right to be pissed off at these women. The fact that you are is what's sexist. That's not a negotiation, no matter how upset you get over it.
     
  14. dlinebass5 M.V.P. Bears

    I didn't include it in the above posts, and I should have: the entire team, Rapinoe included, ran around that field draped in American flags. They have all said how deeply proud they are to be Americans, Rapinoe included.

    If you're going to be mad, at least identify exactly why it is that you're mad: they're women, and you hold them to a different standard. You're upset that they're as successful as they are, while holding different ideas of what America should be than you do. And that's a real bummer, huh?
     
  15. Catfish Guest

    i never said anything about them being woman. i have watched them for years and was happy they won. no idea what you're talking about concerning their success.
     
  16. Catfish Guest

    what Jason Kelce said and what the USWNT player said are not even close to the same thing. if you think they are, you're nuts.

    if a man did the same thing as she did, i would call the guy out too. so again, this is NOT about her being a woman! you get over that !
     
  17. Catfish Guest

    i saw the video and neither who posed for the photo picked it up. O'Hara came from behind them to pick it up. yes, they were caught up in the moment and didn't realize they dropped it.

    and the player turned down playing for the USA twice before. She didn't play for them for over a year, so she was likely not playing this time around either. her comments were the final nail on her coffin.
     
  18. Catfish Guest

    in plenty of qualifying games Rapinoe took a knee or wouldn't put her hand over her chest during the anthem. don't overlook that.
     
  19. dlinebass5 M.V.P. Bears

    Very sincerely, Catfish: Do you know to what the player was referencing, when she said, "Hide your kids, hide your wife"? Do you understand what the social reference was that she made? This is an honest question.
     
  20. Catfish Guest

    i know what it means. why did she have to say it ? what it appropriate? and that wasn't the ONLY thing she said:

    https://www.breitbart.com/sports/20...kids-hide-your-wife-im-comin-for-yall-btches/

    im all for the USA Woman in any sport. i watch the soccer, basketball, ice hockey and softball bf it was kicked out of the Olympics all the time. i watch div 1 NCAA women's soccer final four and championship in december. i watch the ladies in the olympics. im all for them.

    I think she acted childishly and this wasn't the only time she did it. she was probably drunk, which would happen during a championship parade. hope the little kids who saw the same video can understand that. if a man did it, im calling him out too. i don't ignore anyone when it comes to that crap. her being a woman is irrelevant.

    look dline all i did was post a video and 15+ posts later this evolve. i really don't give a shit about it to the extent of all these posts. im moving the hell on. we won't agree and i won't stand for you bashing me any longer. there's no need for that or to be aggravated by this thread.
     
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