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I hope you are right. If they walk away with their guy at QB it makes it much easier to cope with everything that has happened here.

 

I've seen Haskins mocked to them many times. Think they would rather have Murrey?

 

Nope, I think they want Haskins and I also think Haskins is a better QB than Murray AND I think they need to move up from #6 to get him. Now they have the ammunition to do it without crippling further franchise growth.

I also think the Cardinals are fleecing everyone with the Murray talk. I think they have their QB and want to build around him, that would be easier with a trade down from #1. I think the Giants could get to #1 with #6, #17, #37 and a 2020 3rd.

 

If the Giants spend all those picks just to move up to #1 they deserve to finish last for the next 20 years.

 

You don't think they need to acquire a QB? If so, don't you think they would want to get their #1 choice? Someone is going to trade up to take Haskins, I'm calling it right now. If the Giants want him, they need to trade up to get him.

 

There's no doubt they need a QB. I just don't think any of the available options are worth giving up that much draft capital. 3 picks in the Top 40 and a 3rd rounder next season?

If it was an Andrew Luck, Manning, Elway, or Aikman that was there....a guy you absolutely knew was gonna go #1 and you absolutely knew wasn't gonna let you down.....then I could understand it. This draft doesn't have one of those guys.

 

Right now the Giants can draft a QB, an edge rusher, and either an offensive lineman, receiver, or a defensive back all in the top 40 of the draft. Or trade number 37 and stockpile some later picks or picks next draft.

That would be far smarter than burning a bunch of those picks and then just walking away with a QB.

 

For Kyler Murray ? WOW. That's a lot to give up for a guy shorter than 5'11 ! He better be the next Peyton Manning for that price ? Jeez.

 

great post bww. i read they like the QB from Duke ? Duke ?

 

Not the school you typically think about when it comes to QBs....or football.

Sonny Jurgensen was from Duke.

 

to lead my billion dollar franchise, i wouldn't take Sonny now ! lol

 

If it we're those guys coming out, it would take (3) firsts to get to #1 from #6, because there would be more competition. Haskins isn't a no doubter, which is why it's possible to begin with.

 

Not Murray, Haskins. He's the best QB in this class by far.

 

Daniel Jones is hot garbage served on a trash can lid. He also is coached by David Cutcliff the same guy who "developed" Eli Manning and Payton Manning. As if coaching those guys required any skill at all... But based on the way the Giants are operating at the moment there is a fairly decent chance they take Sweat at #6 and then Jones at #17. I sincerely hope that's not how it shakes out (and I like Sweat) but who knows. At this rate they may as well just pick-up Bortles because they apparently are going to run the wish bone offense.

 

I think it’s dumb for the Giants to give up picks at this point. They need to rebuild. They need those picks.

 

Believe me, from experience, the picks do you no good until you have a QB. Eli is long overdue a retirement party. The hope is always to be in a better position in the future. Even if they waited until next year to target a QB, A) they might not be in position to take one and B) You never know who is going to declare. Hebert is the only decent QB that is a Senior, we won't know until this time next year whether he improves or digresses, as he did in 2018. As of right now, Personally, I think Dwayne Haskins is the best QB available until 2021, when Trevor Lawrence declares.

 

I am with you on the QB thing Irish. I know most people don't like him nearly as much as last years class -- but Haskins only has 13 college starts under his belt. He improved fairly dramatically when it comes to poise and movement over the course of the season and he can make all the throws. He also does a remarkable job of recognizing and calling protections and adjusting the game plan as a result. Early on you didn't see if much but by the end of the season he was throwing into the space vacated by the blitz and calling hot routes for his receivers. If he had another season of starts and continued to improve (and that's the big if) I think he could potentially be right up there with any of the guys from last years class. I like him much better than Herbert at this point.

 

Haskins might be best available.

But is he worth giving up a ton of picks to acquire?

I don’t see it.

 

If you don't have a QB, to me, yes. Obviously, the top 3 teams wouldn't as there are other players available that are elite, and they don't need a QB supposedly, juries out on all three. But until they decide their current guy isn't going to make it, QB is a hard pass in 2019.

Just last year the Jets gave up No. 6 pick, 37th and 49th overall picks in the 2018 NFL Draft and second-round pick in 2019 to move up to #3 overall, to get, what could have been, the 3rd best QB of that class. As it turns out, they got the 2nd best when the Giants took Barkley instead of a QB...That was moving up 3 spots, this would be moving up all the way to #1 overall.

In 2012, the Skins traded (3) firsts and a second to move from #6 to #2 in order to take the second best QB.

 

The question isn’t need.

Having a need doesn’t mean you have to overpay for the need. The question is price and worth.

Is any QB in this draft worth giving up that many picks for? I’d say no.