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seems normal for that folk...

 

seems normal for that folk...

 

everyone loves the movie Goodfellas and they still bitch it didn't win Best Picture over Dances with Wolves. It's very inaccurate. Martin Scorcese had to split fiction from the truth a lot in the movie. He glorified Henry Hill, but every MOB show i've seen on these guys that doesnt feature Henry Hill on it, portray him as a clown that the Mob didn't trust that much, so they rarely let him lead anything important. Plus Paulie and Tommy both wanted Karen Hill sexually and Tommy almost raped her once. A young John Gatti killed Tommy over the Billy Bats murder, although it's hard to find real proof of it and many other differences from real life and the movie. The movie also ignores the Boston College point shaving basketball incident in the late 1970's, which was huge for Jimmy Burke and got him put in jail, put never mentioned in the movie.

Joe Pesci won an Oscar for Goodfellas. To me he is far better and more convincing in the movie CASINO, also directed by Martin Scorcese.

I still think "i am clown scene" is the worst acted scene by an actor in movie history. Ray Liotta's laughing motion and when Tommy pulls a gun out on him is so bad. How didn't they reshoot the scene is baffling. No one acts or laughs like that.

 

just read about this guy. wow. he confessed to his cellmate, who was an undercover agent, that he really killed 49 people and not the 6 they only thought he killed. an undercover agent in his cell? come on. that's ridiculous you gotta entrap the guy with a fake cellmate. damn.

 

Didn't know gotti was in goodfellas, never heard of point shaving.

 

he wasn't. he was a young guy then and not a main figure in the mob. i've seen enough mob shows that all point to him killing tommy for the bats murder.

huge. that was the start of the downfall of jimmy burke. this is where henry hill rats out him, paulie and the whole family. the movie ignores this. im not a big martin scorcese fan. i think his movies could be better but they aren't. this should've been in the movie.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1978–79_Boston_College_basketball_point_shaving_scandal

 

Unreal, isn't it funny that all these guys almost always got busted or ended up dead. Look at el chapo, the rest of his life in 23 hr solitary confinement.

 

nature of the business. comes with the territory. only a few rare mobsters from the 1920's never were murdered or caught. Meyer Lansky was one of the most famous gangsters of all-time and died in the 1970's.

 

Lucky luciano and joe bonnano are probably the few that died of natural causes while not in prison.
There was one guy from the bronx that was trapped in a mcDs drive-thru and was gunned down. This was about a month ago and he was about 70. Another guy in montreal was 82 and was in his house and a sniper got him from his backyard. this was a few years ago.

Even in their old age they get targeted, never safe, even the kids get shot at.

 

wow McDonald's ? the fun alone will kill you. didn't hear of either story. Luciano was deported though and didn't have access to the wealth he built here.

 

Oct. 4 2018.
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Al Capone died of a disease, he wasn't in prison.

 

Capone's back story is never told correctly. bf the infamous tax evasion case with elliot ness, he was arrested for gun possession in philly and sentenced to 1 year in jail. in that 1 year his empire began to crumble without him. rumors are he caught Syphilis in the jail at this time or when he went away for tax evasion. Syphilis destroyed his mind and he coulnd't lead the mob anymore. They gave the leadership over to Frank Nitty, who did ok with it, but it was too much for him to bare and he became a rare gangster that committed suicide versus dying in jail or in a gun fight. no movie mentions the philly arrest. it was important to his downfall bc once he was in jail for a year, no one fear his outfit anymore and cracks appeared rapidly.

 

Never heard about the philly arrest, that's hollyweird for you. I'm guessing that once prohibition was done, the booze racket was up. His mental health deteriorated and that was it.
If he would've been healthy he would've had to branch out to other rackets. Capone wasn't in the mob, he was a gangster that made money on booze and had muscle, but not connected to any crime famalies.

 

the Syphilis caused him to die. unreal that someone like that died from an illness from some skanky broad.

well he had associates with ties to other mobs like luciano. and im sure he met his fare share of crime family members.

 

Capone left new york for chicago because he would've just been in a street gang if he stayed there. In chicago in 1920 the city was full of steeet gangs from different ethnicities, (irish,jewish,black), but no mafia yet until their late 30s with sam giancana. In those days you needed guns and muscle.and then brains to make it. Capone went there and used his new york street smarts to make it big, in new york the mob already ran the streets but didn't expand out west at that point.

 

Chicago gangs 1920

Outfit- Italian
Northside- Irish and some Poles
Under schtik- Jewish
Number rackateers and Policy-african/american.

 

but i thought a rival gang member cut his face?? and Capone was heavily influenced by his mentor Johnny Turrio. he was his bodyguard and took over when he retired to Italy. i can't recall what gang they were a part of if any, but they ran a tough racket.

and how old was sam giancana back in the 30's ? 20? seems a bit young considering he may have had a hand in the assassination of JFK in 1963.

 

In 1938 he would've been 30, so about 55 when jfk was assasinated. Maybe I'm nitpicking on names as it's all the same in the end. The mob commission was started in the early 30s by lucky and bonnano, this is when it became an national syndicate and split up all the famalies and territories across the country. They also set up rules and codes to abide by, they all were part of the same gang coast to coast.
When Capone operated chicago in the 20s, he was the boss of the outfit and they worked independently.

 

I knew a “retired” mobster in Bradenton FL. Vic LeRose of the Midwest corridor: Cincinnati, Cleveland, Detroit, Chicago, KC, St Louis, you get the picture. I would watch Cubs games with him at his house (Sandberg/Dawson days). I was also banging his daughter, Linda. Vic never knew.
Thank fuck.