NFL - NEWS & NOTES

Discussion in 'NFL General Discussion' started by Willie, Nov 19, 2015.

  1. Torgo M.V.P. Manager Falcons

    Formatting never works well on forums, but I think this should get the info across. Now that we're 75% of the way through the season, here's how the first round draft selection order currently stands:

    Pick * Record * Opp W-L * Team

    1 * 2-10 * 0.526 * San Francisco
    2 * 2-10 * 0.568 * Oakland
    3 * 3-9 * 0.503 * NY Jets
    4 * 3-9 * 0.521 * Arizona
    5 * 4-8 * 0.5 * Detroit
    6 * 4-8 * 0.503 * Atlanta
    7 * 4-8 * 0.51 * NY Giants
    8 * 4-8 * 0.521 * Buffalo
    9 * 4-8 * 0.544 * Jacksonville
    10 * 4-7-1 * 0.479 * Green Bay
    11 * 4-7-1 * 0.536 * Cleveland
    12 * 5-7 * 0.505 * Tampa Bay
    13 * 5-7 * 0.531 * Cincinnati
    14 * 6-6 * 0.453 * Miami
    15 * 6-6 * 0.469 * Indianapolis
    16 * 6-6 * 0.477 * Washington
    17 * 6-6 * 0.5 * Carolina
    18 * 6-6 * 0.516 * Tennessee
    19 * 6-6 * 0.526 * Denver
    20 * 6-6 * 0.529 * Philadelphia
    21 * 6-5-1 * 0.49 * Minnesota
    22 * 7-5 * 0.484 * Oakland (from Dallas)
    23 * 7-5 * 0.495 * Seattle
    24 * 7-5 * 0.5 * Baltimore
    25 * 7-4-1 * 0.51 * Pittsburgh
    26 * 8-4 * 0.438 * Oakland (from Chicago)
    27 * 9-3 * 0.456 * Houston
    28 * 9-3 * 0.477 * New England
    29 * 9-3 * 0.4784 * LA Chargers
    30 * 10-2 * 0.492 * Green Bay (from New Orleans)
    31 * 10-2 * 0.49 * Kansas City
    32 * 11-1 * 0.469 * LA Rams
     
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  2. LAOJoe Assistant Coach Manager Patreon Silver Maple Leafs Eagles

    Down by the bay..
     
  3. Lyman "Franchise Asshole" Browns Buckeyes

    @Torgo ,

    Do you know if, in the data you posted, does a given team's opponent's record include or exclude games that involve that given team?
     
  4. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

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    Report: Broncos fear Emmanuel Sanders tore Achilles...

    Broncos receiver Emmanuel Sanders was injured in practice Wednesday.

    Adam Schefter of ESPN reports the Broncos fear Sanders tore his Achilles. Sanders will undergo further medical tests to confirm.

    Sanders hurt himself near the end of the period open to the media. Sanders was helped to the locker room with what appeared to be a lower leg injury, according to Jeff Legwold of ESPN.

    Sanders, 31, has played all 12 games this season. He has made 71 catches for 868 yards and four touchdowns.

    He missed four games last season but has stayed relatively healthy in his career, missing only 13 games in nine seasons. (PFT)
     
  5. Willie Head Coach Manager News & Notes Vikings

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    Michael Thomas misses practice with ankle injury...

    The Saints will face one of the only teams to beat them this year, and they may not have receiver Michael Thomas at full strength.

    Thomas missed practice on Wednesday with an ankle injury.

    Despite having 1,120 receiving yards on the season, Thomas added only 40 in last week’s loss to the Cowboys. He hasn’t registered 100 receiving yards in a game since exploding for 211 against the Rams on November 4.

    The Saints got some good news on Wednesday with the return to practice of tackle Terron Armstead, who hasn’t played since a November 11 blowout win over the Bengals. He was limited despite a lingering pectoral injury.

    Also limited was guard Ryan Ramczyk, who suffered a shoulder injury against the Cowboys. Defensive tackle David Onyemata (hip) also was limited, and fullback Zach Line fully participated despite a concussion. (PFT)
     
  6. LAOJoe Assistant Coach Manager Patreon Silver Maple Leafs Eagles

    It would definitely include as that's how it's calculated for picks.
     
  7. AxeMurderer Legend Cowboys

    Awesome - just in time for my playoff game.
     
  8. Catfish Guest

    i thought the driver's seat was having a 2 game lead with 2 to play?
    only if they win. he just says they're in the driver's seat. ok with a 1 game lead. great. if they lose, it's wide open.
     
  9. Catfish Guest

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    haha. it's "Book 'em Dano!"

    Love Hawaii Five-O. I've been watching the remake ever since it came out. They rarely use that phrase though bc the new Danny Williams, who is awfully portrayed by Scott Caan, doesn't like it. Terrible. I wish they would kill him off.
     
  10. AxeMurderer Legend Cowboys

    Being in the driver's seat means being in control of a situation.

    The situation will change if Philly wins...but even if that happens, Dallas still has a pretty good path to the division title. They'll have games left against the Colts, Bucs, and Giants - not a murderer's row. Eagles are still losing to the Rams, and will have all they can handle against the Texans.
     
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  11. Catfish Guest

    how or why are the eagles playing the rams again on the road in back to back years ? this is not a divisional opponent ? i thought these games rotate? the games not even in philly - same as last year ?
     
  12. BearsWillWin Drunk (Probably) Patreon Champion Manager Bears Blackhawks Cubs

    The NFL scheduling formula has teams play...

    6 games against division opponents. 1 home, 1 away with each.

    4 games against an in-conference division. 2 home, 2 away.

    4 games against an opposite conference division. 2 home, 2 away.

    And the remaining two games are against a team from the other two in conference divisions you aren't playing against. 1 home, 1 away. These matchups are created based on previous seasons record.

    So for this season the Eagles play 4 games against the NFC South. 6 games against their own division. 4 games against the AFC south. And the remaining two games are against the Rams and Vikings because, like the Eagles, those teams won their divisions last season.

    The Bears, on the other hand, after playing their own division, the NFC West, and AFC East play their other two games against the Giants and Bucs....two teams that finished last in their divisions in 2017, like the Bears.

    I don't know how home and away is figured out in those last two games based on division ranking...it's just always one home and one away.

    It creates a scenario where you sometimes end up seeing the same team a lot year after year. For instance based on current records...the Bears are likely to have to play the Rams again next season.

    For 2019 the Eagles have the NFC North and AFC East on the schedule....based on current records your remaining two games would be the Seahawks and Panthers...subject to change obviously.
     
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  13. Catfish Guest

    ^^thanks bears. i don't know how they play them last year then bc the rams weren't good in 2016 to play them in 2017. now is a different story. great stuff though.
     
  14. BearsWillWin Drunk (Probably) Patreon Champion Manager Bears Blackhawks Cubs

    Eagles played the entire NFC west last year. Your two odd games were against the Bears and Panthers.
     
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  15. Catfish Guest

    ah - gotcha. thx
     
  16. AxeMurderer Legend Cowboys

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  17. Vancouver Volcanos Franchise Player

    Well said IrishDawg.......they kicked out the right Guy.....

    If a Man has to punch or kick a woman.....he is not a Man.
     
  18. BearsWillWin Drunk (Probably) Patreon Champion Manager Bears Blackhawks Cubs

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  19. AxeMurderer Legend Cowboys

    Those two have my interest. Some other pretty good games on the docket - Ravens/Chiefs, Seahawks/Vikings.
     
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  20. Torgo M.V.P. Manager Falcons


    (Joe - it was a private joke between old geezers who made a living doing that kind of crap.)



    Lyman - I didn't bother to calculate it for myself before, but you know I thought about it. I skipped it because it ends up being moot - since it's used as a tiebreaker between teams with equal records, taking out each team's games won't change the order.

    But since you did ask, I went back and did some of the math myself to figure out the original source's methodology. They do include that team's games. And I found something else that we might/might not like. The winning percentages include the opponent records of games yet to be played.



    For anyone interested, you can get opponent strength of schedule from the opponent won/loss percentage by a bit of quick math. But since the numbers above include future opponents in an incomplete season, it will be a bit funky. I'll use my Falcons as an example.

    Each team has played 12 games so far, and including future opponents, each team has 16 total games on the regular season schedule. That means the listed percentages factor in 192 total games for each team. Take your team's opponent W/L percentage and multiply by the total games to get the opponent wins.

    For the Falcons, 0.503 x 192 games = 96.576 opponent wins.

    (Yikes... you expect to see a little bit of rounding error involved, but you normally wouldn't expect the number to be that close to .5. The catch is that we've had several ties in the league this year, and it turns out the Falcons have three of those teams on their schedule. Atlanta's opponents actually have 95 wins and 3 ties, so with a tie counting as a half win, the 96.5 mark is the true number. You just have to know that you're looking for the nearest 0.5 and not necessarily for a whole number.)

    Atlanta has a 4-8 record. Take the 192 total games and subtract the 12 that Atlanta has played = 180 total games.
    Atlanta's losses contributed to the opponent win total. Take the 96.5 wins and subtract the 8 Falcon losses, and you have 88.5 wins.

    88.5 wins not against Atlanta / 180 total games not against Atlanta = 0.4917 opponent strength of schedule.
     
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