FTR- At my online betting site, they moved the line bigtime on the Browns win total...Before Thursday night a $110.00 bet would win you $100 if the Browns were to win more than 5.5 games. Now it requires a wager of $160.00 to win $100....Vegas thinks Cleveland Browns are on the uptick obviously.
FTR- At my online betting site, they moved the line big time on the Browns win total...Before Thursday night a $110.00 bet would win you $100 if the Browns were to win more than 5.5 games. Now it requires a wager of $160.00 to win $100....Vegas thinks Browns are on the uptick obviously. The next step will be to move the total to 6. I'd expect if our QB's look equally impressive this week, that is exactly what will happen. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if some sites have already moved the number.
Just so I'm clear on the ask... by preseason, top drafted (I'm reading that as Round 1) quarterback stats along side all Browns QB stats? Or just drafted Browns QBs? 2017 Mitchell Trubisky: 36 of 53 (67.9%), 364 yards, 3 TD, 0 INT, 106.2 QB rating Deshaun Watson: 29 of 56 (51.8%), 397 yards, 0 TD, 1 INT, 67.3 QB rating Patrick Mahomes: 34 of 54 (63.0%), 390 yards, 4 TD, 0 INT, 109.3 QB rating Cody Kessler: 29 of 49 (63.0%), 289 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT, 88.0 QB rating Kevin Hogan: 21 of 31 (67.7%), 269 yards, 3 TD, 0 INT, 126.9 QB rating DeShone Kizer: 25 of 49 (51.0%), 351 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT, 72.7 QB rating **It seems Brock Osweiler's 2017 preseason was wiped from history... no game logs mentioned him but I have a very real memory of him playing the preseason that year.** 2016 Paxton Lynch: 40 of 68 (58.8%), 458 yards, 4 TD, 2 INT, 86.5 QB rating Dak Prescott: 38 of 50 (78.0%), 454 yards, 5 TD, 0 INT, 137.8 QB rating Jared Goff: 22 of 49 (44.9%), 232 yards, 2 TD, 2 INT, 55.8 QB rating Carson Wentz: 12 of 24 (50.0%), 89 yards, 0 TD, 1 INT, 41.8 QB rating Bob Griffin: 22 of 38 (57.9%), 313 yards, 3 TD, 1 INT, 100.0 QB rating Josh McCown: 19 of 37 (51.4%), 191 yards, 0 TD, 1 INT, 55.1 QB rating Cody Kessler: 19 of 28 (67.9%), 92 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT, 84.2 QB rating 2015 Jameis Winston: 23 of 47 (48.9%), 311 yards, 0 TD, 2 INT, 52.7 QB rating Marcus Mariota: 21 of 30 (70.0%), 326 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT, 102.9 QB rating Josh McCown: 29 of 38 (76.3%), 207 yards, 3 TD, 2 INT, 92.8 QB rating Johnny Manziel: 17 of 29 (58.6%), 160 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT, 85.4 QB rating. 2014 Blake Bortles: 32 of 51 (62.7%), 521 yards, 2 TD, 0 INT, 110.0 QB rating Teddy Bridgewater: 30 of 49 (61.2%), 283 yards, 5 TD, 0 INT, 111.2 QB rating Derek Carr: 30 of 45 (66.7%), 326 yards, 4 TD, 1 INT, 108.2 QB rating Jimmy Garoppolo: 44 of 79 (58.2%), 618 yards, 5 TD, 1 INT, 99.0 QB rating Brian Hoyer: 24 of 44 (54.5%), 261 yards, 1 TD, 1 INT, 70.4 QB rating Johnny Manziel: 30 of 59 (50.8%), 296 yards, 2 TD, 0 INT, 76.7 QB rating Connor Shaw: 8 of 9 (88.9%), 123 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT, 155.8 QB rating 2013 E.J. Manuel: 26 of 33 (78.6%), 199 yards, 2 TD, 0 INT, 112.0 QB rating Geno Smith: 22 of 37 (59.5%), 246 yards, 1 TD, 3 INT, 54.6 QB rating Brandon Weeden: 30 of 50 (60.0%), 334 yards, 3 TD, 0 INT, 99.9 QB rating Brian Hoyer: 37 of 56 (66.1%), 437 yards, 2 TD, 2 INT, 79.2 QB rating Jason Campbell: 26 of 35 (74.3%), 255 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT, 103.9 QB rating
I was just thinking the top drafted QB's in this year's draft. I was just thinking more of a comparison of what the Browns have, could have or did have at QB.
Easy enough. Baker Mayfield: 11 of 20 (55.0%), 212 yards (10.6 YPA), 2 TD, 0 INT, 1 sack, 125.4 QB rating Sam Darnold: 13 of 18 (72.2%), 96 yards (5.3 YPA), 1 TD, 0 INT, 1 sack, 103.0 QB rating Josh Allen: 9 of 19 (47.4%), 116 yards (6.1 YPA), 1 TD, 0 INT, 1 sack, 84.5 QB rating Josh Rosen: 6 of 13 (46.2%), 41 yards (3.2 YPA), 0 TD, 0 INT, 0 sacks, 53.7 QB rating Lamar Jackson: 11 of 28 (39.3%), 152 yards (5.4 YPA), 1 TD, 1 INT, 5 sacks, 54.5 QB rating Mason Rudolph: 7 of 12 (58.3%), 101 yards (8.4 YPA), 0 TD, 0 INT, 2 sacks, 85.8 QB rating In defense of Rosen's line, if you didn't catch any of his game, the offensive line was basically swiss cheese and he was pulled before he was seriously hurt. That team might not win more than 2-3 games this season. Josh Allen sucks out loud. Lamar Jackson's completion percentage is not a typo. Outside of completion percentage, this looks eerily similar to the 2017 NCAA season. Baker Mayfield in a rarefied class by himself, Sam Darnold looking semi-competent for a Captain Checkdown, and everyone else just "meh".
What I don’t understand about these rookie QBs is that the teams they are on haven’t been starting them. This is preseason, you know what you have in your vets, play the rookie while your top players at other positions are on the field. You’re trying to see if these guys are starting material but testing it against guys that won’t be in the league come regular season. Mason Rudolph had a couple of drops by his WRs and got stuck throwing that flat football on one play. I don’t know why his center didn’t say something to the refs.
I can't speak for the rest of the teams Gid, but the Browns, Taylor only played 2 series, then Baker played over 2 quarters. For the record, Baker had drops as well..Antonio Callaway was charged with 3 drops on his first 3 targets. All catchable balls, all from Baker, all in the first half. Callaway played the entire game and in the second half caught 3-4 balls, including a TD from Mayfield. He also threw away at least 2 balls that I remember because of the rush coming in so fast that he couldn't get by his first read without guys in his face. Mayfield didn't panic in the game, he looked like a veteran despite questionable line play in the 3rd quarter.
Which should bring up a topic for conversation . . . O-line play. Pass protection was adequate for most of the game. Run blocking was atrocious. Granted, there was no Joe Thomas and Kevin Zeitler didn't play. Add to that, the entire left side of the line was playing against another team for the 1st time as a pro and the RT was new to the system. So, only 1 out of 5 starters were playing where they played last year. They have 3 weeks to get their collective shit together or its going to be another very long year.
Also we had a big lead so we were in a run first mode most of the time Rudolph was in there. I wanted Rudolph to start because Ben didn’t play. He won’t play this week either. Let Rudolph stai. But I think all the rookies came in after another QB. Which on some teams doesn’t make sense because they want the rookie to be their starter. This is preseason, who cares if you win. Well maybe Hue, he is a preseason Coach of the year candidate.
Can't remember where I read it so that I could post it, but I read the starting O-line was only in for 8 plays before they started pulling guys out. Not that the 2nd/3rd stringers shouldn't be doing a better job against the 2nd/3rd's from the Giants.
Again... Baker Mayfield is NOT going to be the starter in 2018 barring an injury or complete breakdown by Tyrod Taylor. So leave the Browns out of that conversation. I understand the Steelers comp, as the sooner that Ben is replaced the better!
I don’t buy that on Mayfield. I don’t think he will start game one, but I don’t think the Steelers will play against Taylor twice either.
He lost about 100#s Must be one very good diet plan he was on. I’m sure they will pay him to do nutri-system commercials.
