Lym is right about this ^^^, and he was clearly right when he said this has turned into a troll thread.... This is what consistent losing brings, and I get that...Ya just wouldn't expect the main shit stirrers would be a supposed Browns fan, and a fan of the team that has been at the pinnacle for so long...smh. It's only gonna make it that much sweeter when the Browns flip the script, and it finally dawns on these dolts that this ain't the same ol Browns...
Well the pro's in Las Vegas would say you are low on that, and they haven't seen a single snap of preseason football either....
That's not fair to say at all, though, TopDawg. Everyone sees the potential, sure. But "potential talent" and "talent" aren't the same. The latter wins games, and performs well. This is a team with a lot of the former. But every single team in the league has players they can point to with unfulfilled potential, or circumstances that have slowed talent in the past. Until that talent actually blossoms and shows up, you can't point to it. You can just say that you expect it to be there, soon. And, very rightfully, you should be excited about that potential talent. Browns fans should be excited, and it's great that they are. It's like getting a beat up Corolla for your first car. Should you be all kinds of excited at the world of possibility that has just opened up for you? Absolutely. But you shouldn't be revving your engine at stoplights, challenging anyone else.
What am I, maybe a full game under? You have to look at line betting for what it is though. Vegas is not in the business of projecting correctly. They are in the business of getting the betting public to split money down the middle so that they collect the fees for playing without paying out their own money. That's the reason why lines shift throughout the week during the regular season.
Bruh... I'm still waiting on all the money you still owe me for our bets. Baker Mayfield Dalvin Cook Kareem Hunt I'm sure there are others. Not only did I take the over, I also put $20 on their longshot odds of winning the Super Bowl.
I confirmed the Mayfield pick 1-2 days before the draft...from high reliable source.....not sure what you mean w Cook n Hunt?
That's cool. I confirmed it 6-7 months before the draft. Cook as a first round pick (me - no; you - "it's a lock") Kareem Hunt as top rusher (me - yes; you - "not a chance") Kareem Hunt > Dalvin Cook (me - yes; you - "not even close")
To answer your Q, you are a full 2 games under...Vegas line on Browns win total is 5.5....And I know how it works. Vegas cares about the juice. They put out their best estimate. It's as simple as that. The "juice" is what they skim off the top of every bet. The sportsbooks want just as many people betting over, as they do under. It's all a W for them... They get nervous when everyone is betting one way...
Josh Gordon and Jarvis Landry Give him a better combo of WRS than he ever had in Buffalo. Gordon is by far the best target he has ever had. That is why Cleveland is better than Buffalo.
Tyrod still has to throw them open and be accurate with his placement. Yes those WRs may be able to get some of the worse throws but Tyrod isn't that good. That doesn't make Cleveland better than Buffalo. Buffalo won despite Tyrod. Yes Tyrod may not have a decent QB anymore but 0 wins vs a playoff team is not decided by Tyrod Taylor and then the WRs he had. Buffalo had a great run game and were more organized everywhere. Cleveland could be better this year but let's not play this game because of Tyrod and his targets.
JFTR- Upon the conclusion of preseason game #3, those win total LV lines get adjusted for some teams, and I'm expecting the Browns number to move up to at least 6.5....We'll see.
Nate Peterman is bad. He wasn't ready and may have lost his chance. Tyrod's strength is that he can manage a game decently because he throws safe passes. He'll throw the ball where his guy can get it or no one can.
So don't expect too many INTs with Tyrod this year unless he tries to be too aggressive or the ball gets tipped.
If they go undefeated in the preseason again I have no doubt that it will. But not because Vegas expects more wins. The betting public will start dumping money on that 5.5 and Vegas will move the line to make sure more money comes in on the under. I know you already knew that, but I wanted to point it out for later discussion.
Buffalo Bills rushing metrics... Yards: 2,017 (6th) Yards-per-Attempt: 4.1 (14th) Touchdowns: 12 (15th) First Downs: 105 (7th) Buffalo Bills rushing metrics (without Taylor): Yards: 1,590 (25th) Yards-per-Attempt: 3.9 (t-22nd) Touchdowns: 8 (t-25th) First Downs: 77 (t-25th) Nate Peterman is the projected starter in Buffalo this season, with A.J. McCarron as the backup. Neither is known as a scrambling quarterback or dual-threat guy. Friendly reminder: we added Tyrod Taylor and now his rushing production (one of the best in the NFL at the QB position) is another Browns advantage.
I wouldn't make a bet on who is better since Buffalo's QB is a complete ??? but they still made the playoffs despite Tyrod, who is a clear upgrade to any non-rookie QB on either team's roster.
U were guessing all the way up until 2 days before....NOBODY except the Browns would make that blunder and SAS...Cook will out play Hunt this year no doubt
