If you don't mind me asking, what did you type in your search? I typed in "Kapernick speaks at events on police brutality" and on just the first page, I got one article visiting NYC inmates to speak on police brutality (which admittedly made me laugh): https://www.dailywire.com/news/24644/kaepernick-visits-nyc-inmates-talk-police-paul-bois And an article (this came first actually) on him holding a "know your rights camp" for underprivileged youth: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...vileged-bay-area-kids/?utm_term=.a8e52c68c6f3 I didn't check past page one though. Also, you keep coming back towards saying he hasn't discussed it. The very first time he took a knee he held a long post game interview on the topic. There's even an 18 minute interview he holds on the topic where he answers questions directly. Sigh. The 12 year old, Tamir Rice, was shot before the police car came to a complete stop. He never even pointed the toy at the cops. Philando Castile told the cop the gun was in the glove box. Then went to get his license, as requested, out of his wallet in his pocket and got shot. I don't know the last one you're referencing specifically, but I do know that resisting arrest has never been justifiable reason to shoot to kill, especially an unarmed person. I also know resisting arrest has become a bullshit cop out claim. Let someone aggressively twist anybody's arm behind their back or slam them to the ground. The human body has this weird reaction to pain where they try to get away from it. The majority of these resisting arrest claims are obviously people trying to stop pain. But outside of the pain, there's also the fact police just naturally yell "stop resisting". Let's take the case of this rapper. Multiple cops on him, he's not doing anything except moving his head, and yet at least 3 cops can be heard yelling "stop resisting". (skip to the 17 second mark). So many bad cops then, because the amount of civil suits each state has to settle on and spend money on is ridiculous. NY is paying something like 10M a month (going off memory of past research). I guess the good cops are the ones that see it and say/do nothing, but don't oppress themselves. How do you know if the vast majority of minorities are oppressed or not? Do you assume because they aren't being shot or brutalized that all is well? Serious question? And do you consider being unjustly harassed by police or security to be on the same level of someone saying you're racist? Fun fact on the life of RR#1, a minority. I got pulled over randomly in Jersey a few years back. When I asked the officer what I did, he quickly said my tail light was out and began to walk away. After two steps he immediately came back to the window and said I was also swerving. It was mid afternoon, the sun was blazing, and my lights weren't even on. That explained why he came back. For shits and giggles afterwards, I checked, my tail light was fine and I'm positive I wasn't swerving either. Going back over a decade to when I was 17 (mid 30s currently for anyone curious), I got pulled over. Too young to care to ask what I did. I happened to look around as the cop walked away and noticed a second cop, in my car's blind spot, gun drawn and pointed on me. Imagine the fear racing through a 17 year old's heart at that moment. No ticket or warning issued, or explanation on why I was pulled over. I was just "free to go". Man, I can't even tell you the amount of times I've been pulled over that didn't result in even a warning, followed in stores, or just watched in regular settings. Jeans and a shirt, suit and tie, it didn't matter. You can bet your next 10 paychecks I'd trade all of those instances in to simply be called racist randomly. Hell, call me that once a week if you want if it avoids the other issues. Disclaimer: leaving work, may not respond for awhile or a day
RR#2, no one is saying that these causes aren’t real. Just that during the National Anthem is not the time to bring it up. Why don’t they buy adds or get the owners to buy them adds for NFL games to talk about the cause?
I am freaking sick of this crap... football is sports, located in the sports section, not the news section. Enough already, I want this to end and it isn't because so many have so much "hurray for our side" invested in the topic. I am so tired of the progressives telling me this is how I should feel and the conservatives telling me we're going to do it this way without consulting anyone else ... God, perpetual freaking pooch screwing from all sides with all sides egging the other on... Toxic Topic 2018 with no end in sight ... thanks for ruining football you pkrhds ... frick-n-frackin good lord honk and henry ...
There’s already a lovely place on this site to continue the armed forces advert parade discussion. I think this one should be put to rest.
It looked like some are getting fed up with the topic here and I wouldn’t want to “scare off” any regulars. I’ve stated my position here and elsewhere so I’m out on this one. I’ll be in the swamp.
And I thank him for his service. I was not an officer, I was a sergeant in the suck. I really think littering is more of a problem in my iii's. The disrespect to all pisses me off moar.
I think certain people have a short memory in this country. I understand we focus on Kap and kneeling, but I remember so much more. The BS "Hands Up Don't Shoot" demonstrations by St. Louis Rams. A completely false narrative. Never happened. The "Black Power" symbolizing from the Bennett Brothers and more. The "Pigs" socks Kap wore onto the field. Each and every demonstration was done for a criminal early on. Then comes the one that is obviously wrong (South Carolina) by the cops and it isn't a blip on the radar. To act now like it's noble and virtuous is laughable to me. Are there bad cops? Absolutely. You want to measure every cop compared to any other profession in this country? I'll bet on the cops. It's heralded what the NFL players do for the community, but what is not said is it's in their contracts. Each and every NFL player has some sort of community service they "must" do. Meanwhile police during every shift on every day help someone in their community. It goes unreported. People make false claims against the police on a daily basis in this country.
I think if Colin would have came out and stated ahead of time that he would be kneeling for the anthem, his reasoning for kneeling and how the suggestion came from a veteran instead of first having the incident with the socks, sitting down during the anthem and simply never discussing it until it had already started becoming an issue, we probably are having a much different discussion on this. Perception matters, and the perception on this will always be tied to how it began.
There are going to always be questions about it because of how he handled it but I agree that he should have stated it before he started it. I think he's the wrong messenger for the right message.
halo; and I wouldn’t want to “scare off” any regulars. If this was for me and my "over the top" rant, thanks for the thought halo. I really am just letting off steam on a topic that has grown a life of it's own and IMO undeservedly so. It's a fine topic in conversation, and absolutely deserves attention. I just like my sports conversation to be more pure in content, how did they play, who played well, was that a good decision on 4th and 1 ... etc ... please refer to my rant on Ben a few weeks ago ... don't care for his mouth, don't care for his opinion and care even less about his "take" on what is right and wrong in the business realm of FO and coaching ... shut up and play is my hope for both topics ... Tim; So long as it remains in civil discourse I don't see any reason to bump it elsewhere. absolutely so Tim, please don't think I'm looking for your site to feel the need to be / have a news commentary. I'd just be happier if it all went away.
I think he could have been the right messenger and may very well be the right one when it's all said and done with, but the initial start of this will always put it in a certain light. Personally, if Kaep would have came out at the beginning of the year and made a press release or issued a written statement on why he would be kneeling for the anthem, I believe he would have had a much stronger positive response. The biggest problem with implementing change when there are vast numbers of people involved is getting people engaged in a positive manner. Usually, one side is attempting the change while the other is digging in its heels. Compromise is the best grease for squeaky wheels on all sides. Kaepernick achieved one part of his goal, which was to get people discussing an issue that he cared about, and one that we all should have an interest in finding solutions for. But I think he swung and missed on a bigger chance to get stronger action taken towards creating better conditions among differing viewpoints for further discussion. The conversation now will always be about the anthem, flag and veterans instead of police brutality and accountability.
Couldn't agree more Tim. I would just say that both sides dig in their heels and one side expects changes to the other side and never look into that mirror. Until people are willing to look in that mirror and make changes themselves we will never get anywhere. IMHO
