2018 NFL DRAFT - GENERAL THREAD

Discussion in 'Cleveland Browns' started by Dogside18, Apr 24, 2018.

  1. IrishDawg42 Legend Manager Browns Buckeyes Fighting Irish

    This isn't based on the Browns in any way...it was based on all 6 teams that finished 9-7. It was a means to an end...which is a 9-7 record. It was a prediction of anything really, simply what needs to happen to have any chance at a winning record. I wasn't driving at anything specific other than, unless the Browns offense improves and the Browns defense improves, 9-7 is unattainable.

    Game to game doesn't matter...consistency does. If this team can consisently score 22 points and give up less than 22 points, the record improves..This isn't rocket science. We aren't trying to figure out how to win 16 games in the regular season...that consistency would have to go up exponentially to strive for such a thing...

    Here are the top 4 teams from 2017:

    Patriots 13-3 28.6 ppg for, 18.5 ppg against, +10.1 ppg
    Steelers 13-3 25.3 ppg for, 19.25 ppg against, +6.05 ppg
    Eagles 13-3 28.6 ppg for, 18.4 ppg against, +10.2 ppg
    Vikings 13-3 23.9 ppg for, 15.75 ppg against, +8.15 ppg



    In reference to the Browns, all I was asking was whether this team is capable of improving those ppg averages on either side of the ball. I believe it will easily happen on the offensive side. Yet to be seen on the defensive side, because injuries could still play a role on that side where there were fewer additions made. The defensive backfield should be significantly improved overall due to the additions made..LB and DL were not significantly reinforced.

    Less than 15 ppg on offense, SHOULD make a big leap given the positions improved upon.
    Just over 25 ppg on defense SHOULD improve simply by having less losses due to injury, but should also decrease with the additions to the DB room...

    I am just attempting to improve the ppg differential in theory...which is MUCH easier than predicting which team will win on any given Sunday in the NFL.
     
  2. greatwazoo Home Town Favorite Steelers

    That would explain a lot.
     
  3. beachbum M.V.P. Manager Steelers

    Fair enough. I think if you use the word "consistently score" instead of "raising their avg" certainly makes a difference. And on the defensive side of the ball they could actually get better and give up more points simply because opposing offenses may attack them more aggressively if they are playing from behind.
     
  4. beachbum M.V.P. Manager Steelers

    Yeah just noticed he made the same mistake in the Mayfield thread. I guess his reading comprehension skills aren't up to par with his awesome math skills. @sASS
     
  5. dlinebass5 M.V.P. Bears

    Guys, SAS making snide, belittling comments while using faulty or subjective data is all they've got. Don't take it away from them (before Browns fans get all upset, "they" refers to a gender-less SAS, not wanting to assign incorrectly. I promise, there is no undue picking on Browns fans going on).
     
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  6. IrishDawg42 Legend Manager Browns Buckeyes Fighting Irish

    If the offense improves dramatically though, the opposing teams will get less chances at scoring points, based on less time having the football. Opponents in 2017 scored way too fast, based on short fields.

    https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/drivestats
    The defense was a respectable 15th in the NFL in yards per drive given up...however, they were 25th in points per drive, because the opposing teams had a shorter field than the average NFL team.
     
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  7. They will face Ryan, Winston, Cam, Brees, Rivers, Ben(2), Carr, Watson, Keenum, Mahomes(?) and Flacco(2).....missing out on Bortles, Mariota, Trubisky, Brissett and Hundley...not in their favor defensively
     
  8. SAS M.V.P. Rams Chargers

    The football bible, my friend.

    https://www.pro-football-reference.com/
     
  9. dlinebass5 M.V.P. Bears

    Are those the people that graded out Shea McClellin as the best-performing Bear over the course of several games / a season, and Matt Forte the worst? If so, their credibility is just unquestionable...
     
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  10. beachbum M.V.P. Manager Steelers

    I don't think you're wrong about your basic premise but I know that stats and averages can be very misleading based on game situations. I really like what the Browns have done from a personnel perspective. Now we'll see if Hue can coach. They should have at least 6 wins next year if relatively healthy.
     
  11. SAS M.V.P. Rams Chargers


    Ruh-roh.

    Might be time for a career change!
     
  12. dlinebass5 M.V.P. Bears

    I think SAS would fit perfectly with a subjective, often faulty statistics company that can't put a question mark at the end of a sentence in a marketing piece that only has two sentences.
     
  13. FSU players 100% cant go wrong
     
  14. SAS M.V.P. Rams Chargers


    9-7

    Why wait until 2019, Geoff?
     
  15. firehalo Guest

    Re: PFF... Looks like meteorology. One of the few jobs where being wrong (a lot) won’t get you shit-canned.
     
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  16. dlinebass5 M.V.P. Bears

    How can you be wrong with stats like, "Catchable balls" (or whatever they're calling it)? Our guy determined that the ball was within a few feet of the receiver, so he counted it. Do that for 16 games a year, and you end up with some seriously subjective and flawed numbers. For anyone to rely on that nonsense... Well, then you're SAS.
     
  17. IrishDawg42 Legend Manager Browns Buckeyes Fighting Irish

    To all the Bears and Steelers fans...

    If you don't like a Browns poster, get the fuck out of here. It's pretty simple. Go away. This is the Browns board and if you have something constructive to add, please participate, but get the fuck out of here simply coming on to bust a Browns fans balls. It's getting old.
     
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  18. beachbum M.V.P. Manager Steelers

    If you are referring to me I will post wherever and whenever I care to. Thanks and have a nice day.
     
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  19. greatwazoo Home Town Favorite Steelers

    Irish... You might want to leave site policy to the administrators of the site. Just sayin... lol
     
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  20. rediiis Guest

    Grow some, not everyone believes like you. If you want a total Browns site, build one. I respect all that root for their teams, but you all need to take off your Bruins glasses. Some will understand.
     
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